Jaguar Lister XJ12 Coupe info
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Jag53c said:
Looking at the width of the front wheel, it looks like a 225 on an 8” wide wheel. That size does fit in the standard wheel arch using original offsets. I personally think that you can create something better but use steel panels rather than fibreglass. The rear wheels look very wide 10”? but nothing out of the norm these days. perhaps spend the money creating space for those using the original steel panels. Create a mini tub on the inner arch panel and a stretch on the outer perhaps? Adjust wheel offsets accordingly. Then bumper on the rear get hold of an early series 1 xj6 single piece bumper, remove the over riders and weld up smooth with a nice tight fit around the body work with a pair of front quarter bumpers made from an original series 2 bumper. That leaves a nice opening to style under the series 2 front grill for the aggressive look of extra cooling for that monster v12. Maybe a chin spoiler of simple 70’s design to finish the front off and a make a truly one off lister Jag xj coupe.
Just ideas
RobXJcoupe
Totally understand your thinking. FYI tyres on front are 245 on rear 280 wings were all steel flared. The late 80’s fibreglass bumper and body kit look lacks finesse, but that is the Lister branding look of that time. Yes I agree not to all tastes and maybe not mine but it is a snap shot in motoring history if I don’t follow this look I have changed the car.
Totally understand your thinking. FYI tyres on front are 245 on rear 280 wings were all steel flared. The late 80’s fibreglass bumper and body kit look lacks finesse, but that is the Lister branding look of that time. Yes I agree not to all tastes and maybe not mine but it is a snap shot in motoring history if I don’t follow this look I have changed the car.
Jag53c said:
RobXJcoupe
Totally understand your thinking. FYI tyres on front are 245 on rear 280 wings were all steel flared. The late 80’s fibreglass bumper and body kit look lacks finesse, but that is the Lister branding look of that time. Yes I agree not to all tastes and maybe not mine but it is a snap shot in motoring history if I don’t follow this look I have changed the car.
Totally understand where you are coming from. So your car currently has widened steel front and rear wings?Totally understand your thinking. FYI tyres on front are 245 on rear 280 wings were all steel flared. The late 80’s fibreglass bumper and body kit look lacks finesse, but that is the Lister branding look of that time. Yes I agree not to all tastes and maybe not mine but it is a snap shot in motoring history if I don’t follow this look I have changed the car.
Jag53c said:
Yes the car was already wide bodied so intend to use the old wings for reference purposes when remaking replacement ones.
So those originals they a bit of one wing tacked onto the surroundings of another wing then blended with filler?Looks quite horrendous considering how much the original owner paid for that conversion. Mind you I found horrendous repairs done to my car via a well known xj specialist. You don’t realise until things are back to bare metal.
Well if you do have two wings welded together to make it wider, obviously it’s original lister so rather go to huge expense on one off single piece wings just do a better finished job of what you found. A good fabrication welder will have no issues doing that with minimum filler used
Yes thats what we are going for the minimal amount of filler, the car was full of it all over. That is also why we have recently sourced a replacement roof from a car being broken as the one on my car had had a flat sheet of metal welded into it to replace an old webasto sunroof opening and had the roof curve contour created using filler. So much so that we gave up sandblasting the roof as it had to go. Picture to follow soon when fitted.
Edited by Jag53c on Friday 16th August 14:40
Jag53c said:
Yes thats what we are going for the minimal amount of filler, the car was full of it all over. That is also why we have recently sourced a replacement roof from a car being broken as the one on my car had had a flat sheet of metal welded into it to replace an old webasto sunroof opening and had the roof curve contour created using filler. So much so that we gave up sandblasting the roof as it had to go. Picture to follow soon when fitted.
And all the above is from the lister conversion?Edited by Jag53c on Friday 16th August 14:40
Jag53c said:
RobXJcoupe
Your statement says it all, and I totally agree? As I have previously stated above the build will be better than the Mole Business Factory Leatherhead effort. Or I have failed?
Well shouldn’t be too difficult to improve on what you have found. But still reckon you should ditch the so called body kit and build the car as a Lister sleeper. Building as original is technically with all that filler. The new owner will be more impressed you removed it and went back to the original lines but with the monster engine and wheels to finish her off. Keeping all the so called original lister kit for when you sell on will benefit the cars value and the pictures showing the poor original build will make your new cleaner version all the better for it in my opinion. Your statement says it all, and I totally agree? As I have previously stated above the build will be better than the Mole Business Factory Leatherhead effort. Or I have failed?
The blacked out chrome trim for example looks like something you do as a cheap alternative to bringing the chrome back to its original shine. Not saying this to you personally. A xj coupe in black with fully restored chrome, low on those lister rims tucked into original wheel arches will look stunning and when you lift the bonnet to show off that engine will be the icing on the cake.
Jag53c said:
Something more like the picture above how the rear wheels tuck into the arches. Give them a subtle flair so your massive lister rims fit. Obviously not a track car but a very well restored road coupe.
My coupe I’ve managed to fit 9” wide rear wheels in bog standard unflared rear wheel arches with a slightly stretched 235 40 r18 tyre. You won’t need to flare that much to fit your 285s.
Your body shop look like they could do that without an issue. But as they say it’s your car. I’m just chatting with possible ideas so you can create something more stunning.
I love chatting cars
That’s the rear of my coupe before it was sent for body repairs. Fully loaded the wheels or tyres did not rub. I’m currently re-building the axles and once fitted those wheels will be tucked.
Question, on your lister conversion were uprated polybushes fitted to the suspension arms? Reason I’m asking is I’m getting to a point to re-bush my car’s front and rear axles and wondering to poly bush or put back new original or possibly a mix?
The bushes I removed were original type but had previously been replaced. The car did its rear steer thing under power although the radius arm bushes were good to be honest. My car has its original 4.2 engine with modest power enhancement. All I can put the rear axle movement to are those axle mount bushes are a bit soft and not particularly far apart hence the slight twist under power.
If you have any advice I would be very grateful
The bushes I removed were original type but had previously been replaced. The car did its rear steer thing under power although the radius arm bushes were good to be honest. My car has its original 4.2 engine with modest power enhancement. All I can put the rear axle movement to are those axle mount bushes are a bit soft and not particularly far apart hence the slight twist under power.
If you have any advice I would be very grateful
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