Jaguar Lister XJ12 Coupe info

Jaguar Lister XJ12 Coupe info

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mitch01

7 posts

175 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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a few years ago i did my own lister replica widebody ,




it was so wide that REAL broadspeed 14 inch wide wheels would fit onto the car, but still retaining the original line of the body
here is a picture with it on the rear





i was going to use some OZ mito or futura wheels when it was done , but never got that far

i eventualy had to sell the body , because of a house move , the last i heard the body was in germany , no idea where exactly


mitch01

7 posts

175 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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in total all i did was weld a 2cm wide strip at the top of the wing , and about a 1 cm strip at the door,
the hardest part was to get a propper inner wing , and get the sill to fit up to the wing , and still make it look like it should have been like that , without the sideskirts

clouder

Original Poster:

121 posts

184 months

Monday 17th August 2020
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Hi Mitch,
Good to see your post. I was sorry to hear that the car had to go. My build has been moving so slowly. Got the body jig machined and fabricated so it picks up on all of the factory mounting points and will allow all the rust to be cut out without distorting. Work on removing the panels will start in a couple of months.

Jag53c

195 posts

60 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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I am sorry as well that your car had to be sold as well? Where did you obtain those lovely wide Broadspeed wheels from?

Jag53c

195 posts

60 months

Saturday 26th December 2020
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Not much has happened with the car this year but did buy a couple of rear reflectors and also tracked down a pair of c pillar vinyl roof finishing chromes which the Broadspeed had fitted (although no vinyl). Does anyone have any thoughts on the original 1970’s vinyl roof look or not? They are available to buy now, or alternatively use a wrap or paint the roof in black with a reduced gloss?

RobXjcoupe

3,173 posts

91 months

Sunday 27th December 2020
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Just my opinion but the vinyl roof covering I think looks best on pure factory restorations and then only looks ok with a dark body colour. My restoration I decided to not put the vinyl back. That trim on the b/c pillar I’ve also removed. In my eyes it now enhances the curves of the rear quarter into the rear b/c pillar.

Jag53c

195 posts

60 months

Sunday 27th December 2020
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Wow that bodywork looks very nice. You are well ahead of my car. I agree that the vinyl is a matter of choice or taste as is the c pillar trim. It’s a tricky one, I think the c pillar trim may be used but that’s way off yet to need to decide.

gn3dr

1 posts

40 months

Sunday 27th December 2020
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That's an impressive project and also RobXJ's which I read fully earlier today.
I had that Top Car magazine with the coupe from way back when it was featured. It might still be in an attic somewhere I must have a look for it.

I have a 1976 Daimler Double Six Coupe in Lavender Blue which requires restoration. I had advertised it for sale recently but I'm having second thoughts now and had been doing some internet searches for inspiration which is how I stumbled on here. I might consider restoring it myself having looked at some of these threads.

RobXjcoupe

3,173 posts

91 months

Sunday 27th December 2020
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Jag53c said:
Wow that bodywork looks very nice. You are well ahead of my car. I agree that the vinyl is a matter of choice or taste as is the c pillar trim. It’s a tricky one, I think the c pillar trim may be used but that’s way off yet to need to decide.
Lister modernised or updated the xj to series 3 spec so I would imagine no vinyl roof. If you build a Lister to series 2 spec then perhaps yes to a vinyl roof depending on colour choice. My car I decided on a non standard colour which wouldn’t work with a vinyl roof, but it’s still Jaguar.
I don’t know what exterior and interior colours you have chosen or even wheel style. You seem to be taking it back to series 2 exterior trim.

craigjm

17,955 posts

200 months

Sunday 27th December 2020
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RobXjcoupe said:
Just my opinion but the vinyl roof covering I think looks best on pure factory restorations and then only looks ok with a dark body colour. My restoration I decided to not put the vinyl back. That trim on the b/c pillar I’ve also removed. In my eyes it now enhances the curves of the rear quarter into the rear b/c pillar.
I’ve done the same


V12 Migaloo

813 posts

146 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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Wasn't it the case that the vinyl roof was fitted because the painted roof would crack, due to the fact that their is not B pillar and the body flexed?? Or is that just a myth….
My XJ is coming along, should have the 5 speed soon and then I'm up and running at last

craigjm

17,955 posts

200 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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V12 Migaloo said:
Wasn't it the case that the vinyl roof was fitted because the painted roof would crack, due to the fact that their is not B pillar and the body flexed?? Or is that just a myth….
It was done for fashion but that became a myth yeah just like the C pillars being full of lead loading as another reason. There are a lot of myths about that car. One car left the factory without a vinyl roof and is one of the most famous XJ coupes and didn’t suffer roof cracking. Certainly isn’t an issue with modern paint of the car is restored

RobXjcoupe

3,173 posts

91 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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V12 Migaloo said:
Wasn't it the case that the vinyl roof was fitted because the painted roof would crack, due to the fact that their is not B pillar and the body flexed?? Or is that just a myth….
My XJ is coming along, should have the 5 speed soon and then I'm up and running at last
I like that chin spoiler!

RobXjcoupe

3,173 posts

91 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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craigjm said:
V12 Migaloo said:
Wasn't it the case that the vinyl roof was fitted because the painted roof would crack, due to the fact that their is not B pillar and the body flexed?? Or is that just a myth….
It was done for fashion but that became a myth yeah just like the C pillars being full of lead loading as another reason. There are a lot of myths about that car. One car left the factory without a vinyl roof and is one of the most famous XJ coupes and didn’t suffer roof cracking. Certainly isn’t an issue with modern paint of the car is restored
My coupe still had its original vinyl roof before restoration and after removal there wasn’t much paint under it too crack

craigjm

17,955 posts

200 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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RobXjcoupe said:
My coupe still had its original vinyl roof before restoration and after removal there wasn’t much paint under it too crack
The roof on mine was fully painted under the vinyl in the original dark blue while the body wore a gunmetal grey colour of undetermined origin

RobXjcoupe

3,173 posts

91 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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craigjm said:
RobXjcoupe said:
My coupe still had its original vinyl roof before restoration and after removal there wasn’t much paint under it too crack
The roof on mine was fully painted under the vinyl in the original dark blue while the body wore a gunmetal grey colour of undetermined origin
Your car originally was probably a Monday morning painted car where as mine was a Friday afternoon painted car. Less paint to dry before the plastic went on the roof

craigjm

17,955 posts

200 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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RobXjcoupe said:
Your car originally was probably a Monday morning painted car where as mine was a Friday afternoon painted car. Less paint to dry before the plastic went on the roof
It was actually hehe Monday 1 September 1975 mine was built and they probably knew who the first owner was going to be. It was built for Spen King who was on the BL payroll at the time

RobXjcoupe

3,173 posts

91 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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craigjm said:
RobXjcoupe said:
Your car originally was probably a Monday morning painted car where as mine was a Friday afternoon painted car. Less paint to dry before the plastic went on the roof
It was actually hehe Monday 1 September 1975 mine was built and they probably knew who the first owner was going to be. It was built for Spen King who was on the BL payroll at the time
Used to have similar goings on at the Ford factory I used to work in. It paid to look after the lads and lasses on the line especially when they were possibly building your own new car wink

V12 Migaloo

813 posts

146 months

Wednesday 30th December 2020
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RobXjcoupe said:
V12 Migaloo said:
Wasn't it the case that the vinyl roof was fitted because the painted roof would crack, due to the fact that their is not B pillar and the body flexed?? Or is that just a myth….
My XJ is coming along, should have the 5 speed soon and then I'm up and running at last
I like that chin spoiler!
Cheers Rob, Arden spoiler, bought off ebay about 18 years ago.... think they cost about €4,500 now from Arden..

mitch01

7 posts

175 months

Wednesday 6th January 2021
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the broadspeed wheel i found after long searching , somewhere near london, the man had it straight from GKN, and it was a raw casting , i also had a full set that had the same treatment as the wheels on the avengers car ,
and because it's magnesium i think they may have been a spare set for that car , because they where made narrower , and they fit a stock suspension
i cant think of any reason they would modify a set for another car like that ???

i also had the 19 inch speedlines , for the 77 car , but i sold them with the broadspeed replica