Audi 'Long Life' service & service indicator
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So how does this work, i.e. I understand the long life service gives a service interval that is not a fixed amount of miles, but mine's gone off after 20,000 miles. Isn't this the 'normal' service interval? Is there a different kind of reset for long life, or is this to indicate something other than a full service needs doing?
davej311 said:
So how does this work, i.e. I understand the long life service gives a service interval that is not a fixed amount of miles, but mine's gone off after 20,000 miles. Isn't this the 'normal' service interval? Is there a different kind of reset for long life, or is this to indicate something other than a full service needs doing?
I tend to get 18-20k miles out of the A6 3.0tdi between services. I don't do ,much town driving, but do a fair bit of motorway. On the A6 you can get a read out on the MMI of the miles to go until the next service.Assuming all VAG are similar then normal service interval is 10K miles for most models. Variable can be up to 20K miles as already noted. There is a different oil used for variable servicing (more expensive) to get the mileage.
Of course, they probably just use the same oil and charge more......
Of course, they probably just use the same oil and charge more......
Kevin VRs said:
Assuming all VAG are similar then normal service interval is 10K miles for most models. Variable can be up to 20K miles as already noted. There is a different oil used for variable servicing (more expensive) to get the mileage.
Of course, they probably just use the same oil and charge more......
I supply the oil when my car is serviced Of course, they probably just use the same oil and charge more......
Mind you the cynics would say that they keep that and still put cheap stuff in.davej311 said:
So how does this work, i.e. I understand the long life service gives a service interval that is not a fixed amount of miles, but mine's gone off after 20,000 miles. Isn't this the 'normal' service interval? Is there a different kind of reset for long life, or is this to indicate something other than a full service needs doing?
Depends on what model year the car is.Pre 2007 AVS works like this.
The car detect when it needs a service, and your service light comes on.
Car uses oil level and temperature sensor (known as oil quality sensor) and a number of other factors inluding engine rpm and road speed. To calulate when the oil has degraded and needs changing.
The time that the service light comes on could be anyting between 9000 and 19000 miles.
If you do loads of short runs engine never getting hot, it will be 9000 miles. Equally if you drive it on the rev limiter every where you go at 120mph it will be 9000. Longer runs up to temp with moderate pace and will be nearer 19000 miles.
Now the problem is while the oil needs doing at lets say 16,000 miles. The other service items like the pollen filter, fuel filter and air filter need doing at set intervals.
Pollen 20, fuel 40, air 60 for example. You could have the service done at 16,000 miles and come back in 4000 for the pollen filter, but thats a bit of a faf so its best to have it all done at one visit.
But when next time the service light comes on, at say 32,000 miles, its 8000 til it really need its fuel filter. Do you want to pay for something that isnt really needed for another 8000 miles. Well you will be given the choise, but it does make it a bit complicated.
Post 2007 car, say oil service or inspection service.
Oil is varriable
Inspections are 20 40 60 80 etc.
OK that enough, any questions
All good interesting stuff, thanks. I do mainly long distance driving so my 19/20k is about right, however I've just had it (long life) serviced & checked the miles to go & it says 8500. How's that then? Does it take some time to give a more accurate reading or has something gone wrong, crap oil maybe? Or has the leading '1' digit failed?
davej311 said:
All good interesting stuff, thanks. I do mainly long distance driving so my 19/20k is about right, however I've just had it (long life) serviced & checked the miles to go & it says 8500. How's that then? Does it take some time to give a more accurate reading or has something gone wrong, crap oil maybe? Or has the leading '1' digit failed?
Looks as though they have reset it as time and distance when they done the service. If they do a manual reset it reverts to time and distance. Longlife reset can only be done using plug in tool like vag.comWhen it's reset on longlife it takes a few hundred miles before it gives a miles to value. When it's reset time and distance it starts at 9,300 miles as it's based on 15,000kms. I would guess your service was done roughly 800 miles ago.
davej311 said:
All good interesting stuff, thanks. I do mainly long distance driving so my 19/20k is about right, however I've just had it (long life) serviced & checked the miles to go & it says 8500. How's that then? Does it take some time to give a more accurate reading or has something gone wrong, crap oil maybe? Or has the leading '1' digit failed?
Sounds as if the garage hasn't put the car back on the longlife service schedule when they reset service indicator?XDA said:
Sounds as if the garage hasn't put the car back on the longlife service schedule when they reset service indicator?
Yes it does, & I've just realised that the indicator had gone off after 9/10k not 19/20k as I said previoulsy, so they obviously did the same before. I have an ELM327 OBD device, can I set it to long life myself?davej311 said:
Yes it does, & I've just realised that the indicator had gone off after 9/10k not 19/20k as I said previoulsy, so they obviously did the same before. I have an ELM327 OBD device, can I set it to long life myself?
Not sure. I'd be tempted to take it back to the garage and tell them to correct it.
Seems to be a common "mistake" made by garages...
Be assured I'll be ringing the garage up in the morning, yes it was an indy & it's a 2004 model 2.0 tdi. I guess if he can't reset it properly then I can pay for someone else to do it. Deep joy.
So assuming I manage to get it properly reset at some point, does it matter that I'm likely to have done 2 or 3k miles by that point? Does the 'quality sensor' look for absolute values, or a change since reset?
So assuming I manage to get it properly reset at some point, does it matter that I'm likely to have done 2 or 3k miles by that point? Does the 'quality sensor' look for absolute values, or a change since reset?
davej311 said:
Be assured I'll be ringing the garage up in the morning, yes it was an indy & it's a 2004 model 2.0 tdi. I guess if he can't reset it properly then I can pay for someone else to do it. Deep joy.
So assuming I manage to get it properly reset at some point, does it matter that I'm likely to have done 2 or 3k miles by that point? Does the 'quality sensor' look for absolute values, or a change since reset?
Change since last resetSo assuming I manage to get it properly reset at some point, does it matter that I'm likely to have done 2 or 3k miles by that point? Does the 'quality sensor' look for absolute values, or a change since reset?
or it wouldnt need reseting, it would know the oil was new.
The fact that you done 3k already means you will get a londer run to the next service light, could have it done bit early to be safe.
Tame Technician said:
Change since last reset
or it wouldnt need reseting, it would know the oil was new.
The fact that you done 3k already means you will get a londer run to the next service light, could have it done bit early to be safe.
Ok fair enough, daft question maybe. I'm going to get it reset ASAP, 2/3k was a worst case scenario if I don't manage to get it done for a while, I do 200 miles a day & have probably done 850 since the service so should be ok hopefully, will be on the case tomorrow.or it wouldnt need reseting, it would know the oil was new.
The fact that you done 3k already means you will get a londer run to the next service light, could have it done bit early to be safe.
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