C6 S6 avant... really want

C6 S6 avant... really want

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Dr G

15,222 posts

243 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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youngsyr said:
Anyone got the brochure/options list for the C6 S6? smile
Yup; email me and I'll bounce it back to you.

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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Dr G said:
youngsyr said:
Anyone got the brochure/options list for the C6 S6? smile
Yup; email me and I'll bounce it back to you.
Thanks - you have mail! smile

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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RC1 said:
Your best bet is a local garage otherwise you'll need to buy vcds/vagcom and whilst the outlay is not significant it may take time to get used to it
Think I've managed to track down someone with the software. smile

I've got a bluetooth generic ODB reader and the Torque app, will that be able to give me the fault codes at least?

RC1

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4,108 posts

220 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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youngsyr said:
Think I've managed to track down someone with the software. smile

I've got a bluetooth generic ODB reader and the Torque app, will that be able to give me the fault codes at least?
Sorry never used either so dont know im afraid

KryptonKid09

193 posts

122 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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youngsyr said:
Think I've managed to track down someone with the software. smile

I've got a bluetooth generic ODB reader and the Torque app, will that be able to give me the fault codes at least?
If the module has flagged up a DTC, the OBD reader and Torque will pick it up. This may be of use if there are codes present: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Category:...

This may be of interest too: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Audi_A6/S...

Paul

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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KryptonKid09 said:
youngsyr said:
Think I've managed to track down someone with the software. smile

I've got a bluetooth generic ODB reader and the Torque app, will that be able to give me the fault codes at least?
If the module has flagged up a DTC, the OBD reader and Torque will pick it up. This may be of use if there are codes present: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Category:...

This may be of interest too: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Audi_A6/S...

Paul
Thanks, I'll have to dig out my obd2 reader!

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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Seeing as you guys have been really helpful with the ACC issue, could I ask your opinion on another question I have about my new S6? smile

I've been poking around the car trying to see exactly what came with the car and what didn't and on pulling the rear driver side boot storage compartment liner out to access the tools (pic 1), I was met with a couple of non-terminated wires just sitting there (pic 2).

Following this cable back led to a loose plastic panel cover (not pictured) set back in the compartment (between the tool tray and the inner side of the rear wing panel), following it behind that led an electronic box of tricks (pulled forward from where it was sitting, pic 3) just sitting loose on the bottom of the compartment.

This all looks decidedly aftermarket to me, can anyone shed any light on what might be going on?

One other oddity I noticed is that my car definitely has Adaptive Cruise Control fitted (has control stalk with distance dial and radar on front grill), but it isn't listed on the car's options in the service book or against its vin. Could it be a retrofit?







Edited by youngsyr on Wednesday 16th December 14:41


Edited by youngsyr on Wednesday 16th December 14:43

barryrs

4,394 posts

224 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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I would say that relay is for towing lights as there is no switched live in the boot.

If not for a trailer (as the cars not type approved) maybe for some universal light clusters if the previous owner had a rear bike rack that obscured the lights?

With regards to the ACC.

If you check the front of your service book you will have a load of build codes listed and you should have code 8T3 (8T3 = Adaptive Cruise Control and cruise control system) listed.

There are online tools where you can enter them all and it will give you a list of whats fitted - http://igorweb.org/equidec/

Edited by barryrs on Wednesday 16th December 15:22

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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barryrs said:
I would say that relay is for towing lights as there is no switched live in the boot.

If not for a trailer (as the cars not type approved) maybe for some universal light clusters if the previous owner had a rear bike rack that obscured the lights?

With regards to the ACC.

If you check the front of your service book you will have a load of build codes listed and you should have code 8T3 (8T3 = Adaptive Cruise Control and cruise control system) listed.

There are online tools where you can enter them all and it will give you a list of whats fitted - http://igorweb.org/equidec/

Edited by barryrs on Wednesday 16th December 15:22
Thanks Barry, here are my codes and their translation - couldn't see any Adaptive Cruise Control in there?

E0A; 0GG; 4UF; 6XK; 5SJ; 6TS; 1KW; J0Z; 1LJ; 1BD; 3FR; 5TG; 7X1; F0A; 8GH; 0G7; 0YL; 0JM; T8E; 3NZ; 8EC; U1B; X2B; 1N3; 2ZD; 8Q5; 9Q4; 8Z5; D75; 7Q2; C5R; 7K0; 4X3; 2K3; 3L5; 4KF; 3YO; 4K2; 5D7; 1SA; Q4Q; 4GP;

E0A = No special edition
0GG = Emission standard EU4
4UF = Drivers and front passenger air bag with front passenger air bag deactivation
6XK = Exterior mirrors: automatically dimming,electrically foldable/adjustable/heated
5SJ = Left exterior mirror: convex
6TS = Right exterior mirror: aspherical, large viewing field
1KW = Disc brakes, rear
J0Z = Battery 520 A (110 Ah)
1LJ = Disc brakes, front
1BD = Suspension/shock absorption for special sports design
3FR = Electric sliding/pop-up solar sunroof with automatic pre-selection
5TG = Decorative aluminum inserts, dulling
7X1 = Park distance control
F0A = No special purpose vehicle, standard equipment
8GH = Alternator 190 A
0G7 = Tiptronic
0YL = Weight range 11 installation control only, no requirement forecast
0JM = Weight category front axle weight range 12
T8E = 10-cylinder gasoline engine 5.2 L Unit 07L.Z (ALU)
3NZ = Rear seat bench unsplit, backrest split folding
8EC = Bi-functional headlight with gas discharge lamp, for driving on the left
U1B = Instrument insert with mph speedometer, clock, tachometer and trip odometer
X2B = National sales program Great Britain
1N3 = Speed-related variable steering assist (Servotronic)
2ZD = Heated leather trimmed multi-function steering wheel with Tiptronic
8Q5 = Headlight-range adjustment, automatic/ dynamic with dynamic bending light (AFS 1)
9Q4 = Multi-function display/on-board computerwith check control
8Z5 = Not hot country
D75 = 10-cyl. gasoline eng. 5.2 L/320 kW 40V V10 FSI, homogeneous Base engine is T8E
7Q2 = Navigation system with color screen
C5R = Alloy wheels 9J x 19
7K0 = Without tire pressure warning light
4X3 = Side air bag front with curtain air bag
2K3 = Reinforced bumpers
3L5 = Electric seat adjustment for both front seats
4KF = Side windows in heat-insulating glass, from B-pillar and rear window dark tinted
3Y0 = Without roll-up sun screen
4K2 = Radio remote controlled central locking "SZV"
5D7 = Carrier frequency 868 MHz without panic button
1SA = Without additional front underbody guard
Q4Q = Sports front seats
4GP = Windshield in heat-insulating glass withsunshield and viewing window for vehicleidentification number

Ej74

1,038 posts

186 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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I've also been reading that the Car can be lowered via the Secret menu

Anyone tried this....

barryrs

4,394 posts

224 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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Maybe it was retrofitted; not an easy task IIRC.

Sounds like one of 2 options assuming nothing is physically broken then.

1. Cheap fix; remove the cover and clean the sensor behind.
2. The sensor needs realignment which by all accounts is quite expensive to do.

Some info here and a fix for ACC realignment http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/45994...

Ej74 said:
I've also been reading that the Car can be lowered via the Secret menu

Anyone tried this....
Would that not be the RS6 with DRC?

Edited by barryrs on Wednesday 16th December 15:56

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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Ej74 said:
I've also been reading that the Car can be lowered via the Secret menu

Anyone tried this....
Unlikely I'd have thought - they don't have active suspension as standard?

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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barryrs said:
Maybe it was retrofitted; not an easy task IIRC.

Sounds like one of 2 options assuming nothing is physically broken then.

1. Cheap fix; remove the cover and clean the sensor behind.
2. The sensor needs realignment which by all accounts is quite expensive to do.

Some info here and a fix for ACC realignment http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/45994...
Thanks again, there is a third option I've read - heater circuit in the radar is knackered. Requires a £200 part, but is hopefully an easy fix.

KryptonKid09

193 posts

122 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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audizine.com said:
- TURN CAR ON
- turn steering wheel left 90 degrees, then back straight, drive 10 seconds under 20km/h
- Go to 16 Steering
- Group 33 and put your steering wheel to 0.00
- Security Code 40168
- Select Basic settings
- Select Group 001
- Click Next till it says ON
- There should be an "OK" in a block for Calibrating Steer Sens.
- Close Controller
- Open 1B-Active Steering
- Security Access 61378
- Enter Basic Settings Group 101.
- DO IT!
- Click Next till it says ON
- Wait for it to say OK.
- close, close, close.
- turn car off
Pray
- turn car back on
- drive SLOW under 20km/h.
- make a full stop, while in drive keep foot on break pedal hard for 5 seconds, then drive slow to 10-15km/h then make a wide left/right turn for a few seconds then straight.
- Turn car off.
We can run this adaptation at the weekend. Shouldn't take long.

ETA: We can also check the module coding to make sure, if it was retrofitted, it was coded correctly.

ETAA: Just noticed the adaptation is for the A4/S4/RS4. Not keen on running it in that case.

Paul


Edited by KryptonKid09 on Thursday 17th December 09:44


Edited by KryptonKid09 on Thursday 17th December 10:20

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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The plot thickens - connected up my bluetooth OBDII reader and it gave me 3 options for reading codes - historic, pending or just read codes.

Justing reading the codes and historic codes showed nothing, but pending codes only had PO300, PO305 and PO310, which are misfire multi-cylinder, misfire cylinder 5 and misfire cylinder 10.

I half expected these as the dealer reported the car was noticeably down on power when they took it in and so they had the intake Terracleaned (I have a copy of the invoice). I'm not totally convinced it's back up to full power, but that's a separate issue.

The main point is: No ACC fault codes!

I'm really beginning to wonder if it's just me being a muppet - the system is definitely fitted, I just tried it on the drive and the system opens and gives you the 3 dots on the display with red triangles all around the speedo, ready for you to set speed. When I try to set the speed sitting still on the drive, it says "Speed too low" as expected (it only operates between 20 mph and 120 mph, I believe).

When I do it on the move, it says "ACC not available", which suggests to me a fault? I've tried it in D, S and Manual, as I know some cars get funny about cruise control in Sport mode, but no luck.

annodomini2

6,871 posts

252 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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barryrs said:
Ej74 said:
I've also been reading that the Car can be lowered via the Secret menu

Anyone tried this....
Would that not be the RS6 with DRC?

Edited by barryrs on Wednesday 16th December 15:56
DRC is Hydraulic and affects the damping stiffness not the ride height, like with the air suspension setup from the AllRoad.

annodomini2

6,871 posts

252 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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youngsyr said:
The plot thickens - connected up my bluetooth OBDII reader and it gave me 3 options for reading codes - historic, pending or just read codes.

Justing reading the codes and historic codes showed nothing, but pending codes only had PO300, PO305 and PO310, which are misfire multi-cylinder, misfire cylinder 5 and misfire cylinder 10.

I half expected these as the dealer reported the car was noticeably down on power when they took it in and so they had the intake Terracleaned (I have a copy of the invoice). I'm not totally convinced it's back up to full power, but that's a separate issue.

The main point is: No ACC fault codes!

I'm really beginning to wonder if it's just me being a muppet - the system is definitely fitted, I just tried it on the drive and the system opens and gives you the 3 dots on the display with red triangles all around the speedo, ready for you to set speed. When I try to set the speed sitting still on the drive, it says "Speed too low" as expected (it only operates between 20 mph and 120 mph, I believe).

When I do it on the move, it says "ACC not available", which suggests to me a fault? I've tried it in D, S and Manual, as I know some cars get funny about cruise control in Sport mode, but no luck.
OBDII only gives you engine fault codes.

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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annodomini2 said:
OBDII only gives you engine fault codes.
That would explain it - thanks! smile

RC1

Original Poster:

4,108 posts

220 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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back on topic... im collecting mine tomorrow so will report back with customary pics etc following a hopefully eventful drive from bath to the chilterns...

Dele

1,270 posts

195 months

Wednesday 23rd December 2015
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youngsyr said:
I half expected these as the dealer reported the car was noticeably down on power when they took it in and so they had the intake Terracleaned (I have a copy of the invoice). I'm not totally convinced it's back up to full power, but that's a separate issue.
They can do that now? Because last time I heard they cant actually do the intake part that cokes up, only the injection systems onwards, if that's still the case then they've missed the main culprit