The Cupra (Black) Lease thread

[CupraRob]

Jonno02 said:

That's a big fuel tank.

Not really. It's 8.3p/mile and not 7.2p/mile so even if I do 4000 miles over that's only 0.011*4000= £44.
A tank of fuel will be ~£60 and they normally send it quarter full. I'd say that balances the equation quite neatly...

[Jonno02]

CupraRob said:

Not really. It's 8.3p/mile and not 7.2p/mile so even if I do 4000 miles over that's only 0.011*4000= £44.
A tank of fuel will be ~£60 and they normally send it quarter full. I'd say that balances the equation quite neatly...

Fair point. Well made.

[jonwm]

Andy 222 said:

Quite annoying that you can't fully disable the ESC / traction control. Does anyone else find it makes a really loud banging noise when it kicks in? First time it happened I thought the drive shaft was broken!

You have to do it through the car setting on the screen, I tried launch control with it off the other day and lost most of my tread in a cloud of blue smoke so it definitely turns it off completely, its says Sport setting or Off then you have to reconfirm you are taking it off.

I did try it on a trading estate and aborted soon after the car not moving and just wheel spinning

[imdeman87]

jonwm said:

You have to do it through the car setting on the screen, I tried launch control with it off the other day and lost most of my tread in a cloud of blue smoke so it definitely turns it off completely, its says Sport setting or Off then you have to reconfirm you are taking it off.

I did try it on a trading estate and aborted soon after the car not moving and just wheel spinning

I think another way is to hold the ESC button down for 5 seconds or so - at least that's how it works in the Golf.

[Sam_G]

Jonno02 said:

CupraRob said:

Not really. It's 8.3p/mile and not 7.2p/mile so even if I do 4000 miles over that's only 0.011*4000= £44.
A tank of fuel will be ~£60 and they normally send it quarter full. I'd say that balances the equation quite neatly...

Fair point. Well made.

Hmm, I'm planning to do about 15k over the allowance so a tank of fuel isn't really going to cover it... That's piss poor from vwfs if they won't resolve it

[jonwm]

Jonno02 said:

CupraRob said:

Not really. It's 8.3p/mile and not 7.2p/mile so even if I do 4000 miles over that's only 0.011*4000= £44.
A tank of fuel will be ~£60 and they normally send it quarter full. I'd say that balances the equation quite neatly...

Fair point. Well made.

If it was me for the sake of a few quid over 2 years I would have just had it delivered, I wont do the full 5k in mine, maybe we should see if we could "pool" the mileage come the end of the term haha

[M44sgr]

Sam_G said:

Jonno02 said:

CupraRob said:

Not really. It's 8.3p/mile and not 7.2p/mile so even if I do 4000 miles over that's only 0.011*4000= £44.
A tank of fuel will be ~£60 and they normally send it quarter full. I'd say that balances the equation quite neatly...

Fair point. Well made.

Hmm, I'm planning to do about 15k over the allowance so a tank of fuel isn't really going to cover it... That's piss poor from vwfs if they won't resolve it

When I went into DM Keith last week was told the maximum miles u can do is 10k per year, which also stated in the contract...

[simonh9]

Joeseppi said:

ib170 said:

Firstly apologies for the off topic post, but does anyone who has already taken delivery of their Cupra know what the Seat recommended winter wheel / tyre size is (as per usual door sticker)?

Thanks,

I haven't got mine yet but the winter tyre size should be the same as the summer tyre size probably. They're 235/35R19. I've been pricing winter tyres myself and that is the size I put in to the online search on tyre websites. Hope this helps.

On the German Seat site, there's a section which lists which wheels are compatible for winters etc. 17s are the smallest listed for non brembo cars, so I've bought myself some 2nd hand wheels and picked up some tyres seperately.

[imdeman87]

M44sgr said:

When I went into DM Keith last week was told the maximum miles u can do is 10k per year, which also stated in the contract...

Really? Or do you mean can do up to 20k miles and then incur excess mileage charges?

I won't be getting near 20k miles over the 2 year term but I know plenty who signed up to 5k and 10k pa terms and were planning to go over 20k miles. Really surprised if VWFS have imposed a maximum mileage allowance.

[senorblm]

Sam_G said:

Jonno02 said:

CupraRob said:

Not really. It's 8.3p/mile and not 7.2p/mile so even if I do 4000 miles over that's only 0.011*4000= £44.
A tank of fuel will be ~£60 and they normally send it quarter full. I'd say that balances the equation quite neatly...

Fair point. Well made.

Hmm, I'm planning to do about 15k over the allowance so a tank of fuel isn't really going to cover it... That's piss poor from vwfs if they won't resolve it

These cars were ordered in July. Why should a change in policy made in October matter at all?

I don't think there is a cap in mileage until you hit 60k miles

[Sam_G]

imdeman87 said:

M44sgr said:

When I went into DM Keith last week was told the maximum miles u can do is 10k per year, which also stated in the contract...

Really? Or do you mean can do up to 20k miles and then incur excess mileage charges?

I won't be getting near 20k miles over the 2 year term but I know plenty who signed up to 5k and 10k pa terms and were planning to go over 20k miles. Really surprised if VWFS have imposed a maximum mileage allowance.

I don't think that is the correct reading of the contract... I assume they're all the same generic VWFS contracts but maybe not...

Here's exactly what mine says:

Vehicle Mileage (see Term 10)
Maximum Annual Mileage: 5000 miles
Maximum Total Mileage: 10000 miles

Term 10 Mileage
10.1 You must make sure that the Vehicle does not cover more
than:
10.1.1 the Maximum Annual Mileage in each succeeding period of
12 months starting from the making of this Agreement;
and/or
10.1.2 the Maximum Total Mileage
10.2 When we ask, you must pay us the Excess Mileage Charge
shown on page 1 (plus VAT) for each mile covered by the
Vehicle in excess of the Maximum Annual Mileage or the Maximum
Total Mileage.

[ib170]

simonh9 said:

Joeseppi said:

ib170 said:

Firstly apologies for the off topic post, but does anyone who has already taken delivery of their Cupra know what the Seat recommended winter wheel / tyre size is (as per usual door sticker)?

Thanks,

I haven't got mine yet but the winter tyre size should be the same as the summer tyre size probably. They're 235/35R19. I've been pricing winter tyres myself and that is the size I put in to the online search on tyre websites. Hope this helps.

On the German Seat site, there's a section which lists which wheels are compatible for winters etc. 17s are the smallest listed for non brembo cars, so I've bought myself some 2nd hand wheels and picked up some tyres seperately.

Thanks, I will take a look at that. I know on my current car the recommended winter tyre size (indicated by the M+S marking) is actually one wheel size down. If that's the case on the Cupra, I'll look to source some 2nd hand wheels too.

[Joeseppi]

ib170 said:

simonh9 said:

Joeseppi said:

ib170 said:

Firstly apologies for the off topic post, but does anyone who has already taken delivery of their Cupra know what the Seat recommended winter wheel / tyre size is (as per usual door sticker)?

Thanks,

I haven't got mine yet but the winter tyre size should be the same as the summer tyre size probably. They're 235/35R19. I've been pricing winter tyres myself and that is the size I put in to the online search on tyre websites. Hope this helps.

On the German Seat site, there's a section which lists which wheels are compatible for winters etc. 17s are the smallest listed for non brembo cars, so I've bought myself some 2nd hand wheels and picked up some tyres seperately.

Thanks, I will take a look at that. I know on my current car the recommended winter tyre size (indicated by the M+S marking) is actually one wheel size down. If that's the case on the Cupra, I'll look to source some 2nd hand wheels too.

I think I'll be buying winter tyres to fit the really nice oem wheels that come with the car. Personally I think it will spoil the look and maybe the handling if I were to put some smaller second hand wheels on.

I did look at buying new 18" alloy wheels and winter tyres but the cost was ridiculous compared to winter tyres for the original wheels.

Edited by Joeseppi on Tuesday 25th October 13:34

[Jacko_]

Joeseppi said:

I think I'll be buying winter tyres to fit the really nice one wheels that come with the car. Personally I think it will spoil the look and maybe the handling if I were to put some smaller second hand wheels on.

You'll find it'll handle much better on a set of 17"s with some decent rubber and a larger sidewall. I would like to downsize the wheels for track days and run some used slicks if it's within budget.

[imdeman87]

Sam_G said:

I don't think that is the correct reading of the contract... I assume they're all the same generic VWFS contracts but maybe not...

Here's exactly what mine says:

Vehicle Mileage (see Term 10)
Maximum Annual Mileage: 5000 miles
Maximum Total Mileage: 10000 miles

Term 10 Mileage
10.1 You must make sure that the Vehicle does not cover more
than:
10.1.1 the Maximum Annual Mileage in each succeeding period of
12 months starting from the making of this Agreement;
and/or
10.1.2 the Maximum Total Mileage
10.2 When we ask, you must pay us the Excess Mileage Charge
shown on page 1 (plus VAT) for each mile covered by the
Vehicle in excess of the Maximum Annual Mileage or the Maximum
Total Mileage.

Cheers for that - looks fine then for anyone going above their mileage allowance.

[simonh9]

Jacko_ said:

Joeseppi said:

I think I'll be buying winter tyres to fit the really nice one wheels that come with the car. Personally I think it will spoil the look and maybe the handling if I were to put some smaller second hand wheels on.

You'll find it'll handle much better on a set of 17"s with some decent rubber and a larger sidewall. I would like to downsize the wheels for track days and run some used slicks if it's within budget.

Agree totally. It's very rare that bigger wheels make a car better. Not to mention comfort, road noise etc. I'll use the 17s for winters + I have some 17" Michelin Pilot sport 4 from a previous car that I'll use in the summer once the soft contis have worn (then save the 19s at just over their minimum tread depth to hand back with).

[Joeseppi]

Jacko_ said:

Joeseppi said:

I think I'll be buying winter tyres to fit the really nice one wheels that come with the car. Personally I think it will spoil the look and maybe the handling if I were to put some smaller second hand wheels on.

You'll find it'll handle much better on a set of 17"s with some decent rubber and a larger sidewall. I would like to downsize the wheels for track days and run some used slicks if it's within budget.

I won't find it at all but I understand what you mean.

I should have said "alter the handling" not "spoil the handling"

My bad

[M44sgr]

senorblm said:

These cars were ordered in July. Why should a change in policy made in October matter at all?

I don't think there is a cap in mileage until you hit 60k miles

Has anyone else been offered anything from CVL/DM Keith

[Joeseppi]

M44sgr said:

senorblm said:

These cars were ordered in July. Why should a change in policy made in October matter at all?

I don't think there is a cap in mileage until you hit 60k miles

Has anyone else been offered anything from CVL/DM Keith

I've heard nothing from CVL since 12th October when they said it was in transit

[Jacko_]

simonh9 said:

Joeseppi said:

ib170 said:

Firstly apologies for the off topic post, but does anyone who has already taken delivery of their Cupra know what the Seat recommended winter wheel / tyre size is (as per usual door sticker)?

Thanks,

I haven't got mine yet but the winter tyre size should be the same as the summer tyre size probably. They're 235/35R19. I've been pricing winter tyres myself and that is the size I put in to the online search on tyre websites. Hope this helps.

On the German Seat site, there's a section which lists which wheels are compatible for winters etc. 17s are the smallest listed for non brembo cars, so I've bought myself some 2nd hand wheels and picked up some tyres seperately.

Seen as you two have been doing your homework, would you mind sharing details.

I could do with knowing the PCD, centre bore, offset and width if possible. I've found some 5x112 17" for cheap enough, but not sure a 7.5" would be quite wide enough.

Edited by Jacko_ on Tuesday 25th October 22:04