Any B9 S4 owners on PH yet?
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I avg about 19mpg 
Mainly urban driving but do manage around 27-30mpg when doing a longer run (combined). Love the car, drive and refinement. Never feels underpowered. Just the mpg which makes it a little impractical for a daily family car.
Mainly urban driving but do manage around 27-30mpg when doing a longer run (combined). Love the car, drive and refinement. Never feels underpowered. Just the mpg which makes it a little impractical for a daily family car. Edited by Clyde_05 on Wednesday 19th December 14:32
Clyde_05 said:
I avg about 19mpg Mainly urban driving but do manage around 27-30mpg when doing a longer run (combined). Love the car, drive and refinement. Never feels underpowered. Just the mpg which makes it a little impractical for a daily family car.
Wow, I get well over 30 on a run with the S5. My best ever is 42.5 over 100 miles ish (mid summer). Averaged about 30 with not much urban driving. Mainly urban driving but do manage around 27-30mpg when doing a longer run (combined). Love the car, drive and refinement. Never feels underpowered. Just the mpg which makes it a little impractical for a daily family car. Edited by Clyde_05 on Wednesday 19th December 14:32
Clyde_05 said:
Mines in eco mode too. Only really change the modes when I'm on a longer run. A lot of our journeys are just around town so about 2-4 miles at a time and I guess the engine hasn't really warmed up properly.
I'm the same as you, except I leave mine in dynamic, then it's quick to knock it to sport when the need arises.I stopped checking the fuel consumption after the first month! It's for the best
Will be sad to see her go end of July, been a decent car!
As there are no decent deals about at the minute, I've asked for quotes on 6 and 12 month extension, apparently should be with me in 10 working days.
They pointed out the quotes are free(yeah how kind of them!) But if I do take one of the quotes, there is a 60 quid admin fee. They screw you at every opportunity!
Anyone else had recent extension figures?
They pointed out the quotes are free(yeah how kind of them!) But if I do take one of the quotes, there is a 60 quid admin fee. They screw you at every opportunity!
Anyone else had recent extension figures?
Adam y0 said:
First issue with the car today - ‘Start/stop system: Fault. Function unavailable. Please contact workshop.’
Turned the car off and back on and it’s now disappeared.
Has anyone else had this? Will be giving Audi a ring on Monday.
To add to this, been out for a meal tonight, roughly 18 miles of motorway, no traffic. Engine temp was up to 100°C (usually 90) but the oil temp never got above 53°C (usually 90). The fan has been on constantly ever since, sounds like a plane preparing to take off. Oil levels are fine. Turned the car off and back on and it’s now disappeared.
Has anyone else had this? Will be giving Audi a ring on Monday.
I will ring Audi in the morning, never had an issue with a new car so finding this a bit frustrating, possibley an electrical fault? There’s no issues with how the car drives other than the noisy fan running and the fault message with the stop start.
Argh!
Had my extension figures through, currently pay circa £350 for 7k per year Inc maintenance and tyres.
I've not gone anywhere near my mileage limit, so added an extra 2k for 6 month or 5k for 12 months to be on safe side;
6 month - circa £355
12 month -circa £310
Both still Inc maintenance.
With the state of the s
t deals around at the mo, extending is now more appealing, see what crops up though, only thing I was considering recently was the Leon cupra DSG lux.
I've not gone anywhere near my mileage limit, so added an extra 2k for 6 month or 5k for 12 months to be on safe side;
6 month - circa £355
12 month -circa £310
Both still Inc maintenance.
With the state of the s
t deals around at the mo, extending is now more appealing, see what crops up though, only thing I was considering recently was the Leon cupra DSG lux.
Adam y0 said:
Adam y0 said:
First issue with the car today - ‘Start/stop system: Fault. Function unavailable. Please contact workshop.’
Turned the car off and back on and it’s now disappeared.
Has anyone else had this? Will be giving Audi a ring on Monday.
To add to this, been out for a meal tonight, roughly 18 miles of motorway, no traffic. Engine temp was up to 100°C (usually 90) but the oil temp never got above 53°C (usually 90). The fan has been on constantly ever since, sounds like a plane preparing to take off. Oil levels are fine. Turned the car off and back on and it’s now disappeared.
Has anyone else had this? Will be giving Audi a ring on Monday.
I will ring Audi in the morning, never had an issue with a new car so finding this a bit frustrating, possibley an electrical fault? There’s no issues with how the car drives other than the noisy fan running and the fault message with the stop start.
Argh!
Car went in to Audi on Monday via recovery truck. The mobile mechanic had his suspicions of either a faulty sensor or a problem with the water pump so wouldn’t let me drive it to the garage.
Audi contacted me yesterday informing me that the thermostat was leaking, which has now been sorted so I’m told and I agreed to pick the car up at 4pm today.
Earlier this afternoon, Audi Wakefield contacted me informing me that a customer had reversed in to my car whilst it was parked up outside. I’m told there is some noticeable damage to the driver side doors, but that’s all I got. Luckily the person who did the damage left their details with reception before leaving. I tried to get through to Audi to pick my car up as planned but unfortunately got stuck on the A1 for 3 hours!
I’ll be going tomorrow afternoon providing I can escape work early again. A chap from the body repair department called me and said that they will get an estimate together and send it to the customers insurers. He insisted that they will sort everything out and could book the car in on Friday.
However, I received a call on my way home from Sytner insurance asking about the accident I’d been involved in wanting all my details and the details of the other party. I obviously didn’t have these to hand as i’d not yet got to Audi. Ive Googled the phone number and that’s coming up as a company called Auxillis. I’ll be speaking with them again tomorrow, although I’m not sure if I should be passing them on to Audi as I’ve had absolutely nothing to do with this and it all happened on Audi premises?
My concerns now are;
- Will this now affect my insurance when I apply for future policies?
- Will the customers insurers be able to refuse Audi carrying out the work and use a cheap garage?
This is the first ‘incident’ I’ve had in my 9 years of driving so have never had to deal with insurers etc.
Any help or advice is welcome!
Cheers.
Adam y0 said:
However, I received a call on my way home from Sytner insurance asking about the accident I’d been involved in wanting all my details and the details of the other party. I obviously didn’t have these to hand as i’d not yet got to Audi. Ive Googled the phone number and that’s coming up as a company called Auxillis.
Auxillis = "Accident management company". Will typically want to put you in a stupidly expensive contract hire car then drag out the repairs and then sting the other party's insurance for the hire fees. Allegedly.If you have the other party's insurance details and they've admitted liability to their insurer, I'd contact *their* insurer and say you want it repaired by a proper Audi bodyshop and ask what loan car they'll offer you. If you don't like the answer, then point Auxillis at them.
silentbrown said:
Adam y0 said:
However, I received a call on my way home from Sytner insurance asking about the accident I’d been involved in wanting all my details and the details of the other party. I obviously didn’t have these to hand as i’d not yet got to Audi. Ive Googled the phone number and that’s coming up as a company called Auxillis.
Auxillis = "Accident management company". Will typically want to put you in a stupidly expensive contract hire car then drag out the repairs and then sting the other party's insurance for the hire fees. Allegedly.If you have the other party's insurance details and they've admitted liability to their insurer, I'd contact *their* insurer and say you want it repaired by a proper Audi bodyshop and ask what loan car they'll offer you. If you don't like the answer, then point Auxillis at them.
The average joe I imagine would struggle quite a bit reversing in to one of the spaces to the right. Anyway, I refused to take my car until it had been repaired so they’ve given me an A6.
What’s everyone thoughts on this? I might be wrong and this might be acceptable, I just thought after being bumped in to in that exact position, they might have had the decency to move it in to a space to prevent it happening again.
All very frustrating as it shouldn’t have been in the garage anyway if it wasn’t for the issues I’ve had.
I am no expert but wouldn’t the car be covered by the garage’s insurance (and of course the person’s that hit you)? Therefore you’re correct in just letting them sort it and leave you not having to make a claim.
I’m no expert so happy to be corrected.
Edit; in my opinion I wouldn’t blame the garage for leaving the car there. In my experience garages do tend to leave cars all over the place so they can get them in and out easily.
The person that’s somehow crashed into a parked car is the idiot.
Plenty of people crash into cars parked in bays too so I wouldn’t bother labouring this point and just be on their side and let them sort it all out for you.
I’m no expert so happy to be corrected.
Edit; in my opinion I wouldn’t blame the garage for leaving the car there. In my experience garages do tend to leave cars all over the place so they can get them in and out easily.
The person that’s somehow crashed into a parked car is the idiot.
Plenty of people crash into cars parked in bays too so I wouldn’t bother labouring this point and just be on their side and let them sort it all out for you.
Edited by roadsmash on Thursday 17th January 19:30
roadsmash said:
I am no expert but wouldn’t the car be covered by the garage’s insurance (and of course the person’s that hit you)? Therefore you’re correct in just letting them sort it and leave you not having to make a claim.
I’m no expert so happy to be corrected.
Edit; in my opinion I wouldn’t blame the garage for leaving the car there. In my experience garages do tend to leave cars all over the place so they can get them in and out easily.
The person that’s somehow crashed into a parked car is the idiot.
Plenty of people crash into cars parked in bays too so I wouldn’t bother labouring this point and just be on their side and let them sort it all out for you.
Yeah I’ve been fine with them, they’ve sorted me a car out and allowed me to leave the S4 with them until it’s sorted so I can’t really grumble. I’m no expert so happy to be corrected.
Edit; in my opinion I wouldn’t blame the garage for leaving the car there. In my experience garages do tend to leave cars all over the place so they can get them in and out easily.
The person that’s somehow crashed into a parked car is the idiot.
Plenty of people crash into cars parked in bays too so I wouldn’t bother labouring this point and just be on their side and let them sort it all out for you.
Edited by roadsmash on Thursday 17th January 19:30
Just checking I’m not missing out anything important.
They will be getting it in to the body shop next week so all is well
Photo of the damage for those interested.
I've been running a B9 S4 Avant for a few months now & thought I would share my experience of it to those that may find it useful. It's Navarra Blue with the cheaper "plughole" / RS wheels & otherwise standard spec.
Exterior - I've had blacked out trim for about 30 years now, so went with standard chrome for a change - to my eye it looks pretty decent with the blue. The car maybe touches on looking a bit bland, but that's fine as subtle was the aim. I wasn't very struck with the "plughole" alloys on the configurator, but they looked far easier to clean than the standard fit - turns out they look far better than expected, but are not very easy to clean... General fit & finish is excellent, only thing I would say is that the door shut lines seem overly large (all doors, all round) & the hinges, latches, gubbins & numerous stickers are quite noticeable. Stare at the wheel bolt caps for long enough & they will run away under their own steam.
Engine - Superb. Plenty of torque from idle & effortless response & acceleration even at part throttle, sounds gorgeous as well! I've had a few V6's over the years & all have been compromised somewhere - weak top end, patchy mid or whatever, but this is near perfect . Don't know if it's twin scroll, Miller or whatever, but boost is always right there, immediately, whenever required - Excellent. Although it isn't exactly frugal on fuel it's nowhere as bad as I had feared.
Auto on/off is about as clever as most on the market & more often intrusive than anything else - a bit of dwell in the electronics would be handy rather than switching off immediately without any conception of what's going on in the real world. Luckily setting the heating fan to position 1 seems to keep to it from kicking in (well, off).
Handling - I've come from VW GTI's, so thought that the S4 may be a bit on the heavy side in comparison, but not really. Grip is comparable, traction out of bends is noticeably better & while it's not as nimble or sharp as a GTI it's not far off. Straight line stability isn't perfect & can be a bit tiresome on long straight drives & I've noticed a bit of "slop" from the back end when tucking in after overtaking - probably down to the weight in comparison what I'm used to. Brakes are more than powerful enough & don't fade on hard, twisty B driving.
Interior - Very nice & the seats very much nicer! All pretty logical / good ergonomics / well bolted together & finished. Only downside is the tablet stuck on the dash... Wouldn't be so bad if the display was touch & the "MMI Touch" is frankly a very poor substitute for the real thing. Although I knew that the car had an inline engine & transmission tunnel I was quite surprised at what an RWD feel the seating position has - I now feel like I'm sitting on a beer crate when sitting in the Golf.
Auto box - much as I love the car I'm can't say I'm happy with the box. In a perfect world I would have gone manual but hey-ho. From what I've read & heard the box is as good as any torque converter box on the market & I suppose it's fitment has as much to do with WLTP as anything else, but I find it just blunts & spoils the driving experience, especially for an "S" model. I honestly though that I would get used to the box, but no. Seems it doesn't matter how much trickery is stacked on top of the cogs, it's still going to change at inadvertent times & kick-down is a bit brutal. I can't help but notice that the RS4 doesn't kick-down in Tiptronic - that would be nice!
The box has been a bit of a downer, but not such that I would want rid of such a good car! I can't help but think that when it's next time to change car, what will I get if everything from mild hatch up is going auto.
Exterior - I've had blacked out trim for about 30 years now, so went with standard chrome for a change - to my eye it looks pretty decent with the blue. The car maybe touches on looking a bit bland, but that's fine as subtle was the aim. I wasn't very struck with the "plughole" alloys on the configurator, but they looked far easier to clean than the standard fit - turns out they look far better than expected, but are not very easy to clean... General fit & finish is excellent, only thing I would say is that the door shut lines seem overly large (all doors, all round) & the hinges, latches, gubbins & numerous stickers are quite noticeable. Stare at the wheel bolt caps for long enough & they will run away under their own steam.
Engine - Superb. Plenty of torque from idle & effortless response & acceleration even at part throttle, sounds gorgeous as well! I've had a few V6's over the years & all have been compromised somewhere - weak top end, patchy mid or whatever, but this is near perfect . Don't know if it's twin scroll, Miller or whatever, but boost is always right there, immediately, whenever required - Excellent. Although it isn't exactly frugal on fuel it's nowhere as bad as I had feared.
Auto on/off is about as clever as most on the market & more often intrusive than anything else - a bit of dwell in the electronics would be handy rather than switching off immediately without any conception of what's going on in the real world. Luckily setting the heating fan to position 1 seems to keep to it from kicking in (well, off).
Handling - I've come from VW GTI's, so thought that the S4 may be a bit on the heavy side in comparison, but not really. Grip is comparable, traction out of bends is noticeably better & while it's not as nimble or sharp as a GTI it's not far off. Straight line stability isn't perfect & can be a bit tiresome on long straight drives & I've noticed a bit of "slop" from the back end when tucking in after overtaking - probably down to the weight in comparison what I'm used to. Brakes are more than powerful enough & don't fade on hard, twisty B driving.
Interior - Very nice & the seats very much nicer! All pretty logical / good ergonomics / well bolted together & finished. Only downside is the tablet stuck on the dash... Wouldn't be so bad if the display was touch & the "MMI Touch" is frankly a very poor substitute for the real thing. Although I knew that the car had an inline engine & transmission tunnel I was quite surprised at what an RWD feel the seating position has - I now feel like I'm sitting on a beer crate when sitting in the Golf.
Auto box - much as I love the car I'm can't say I'm happy with the box. In a perfect world I would have gone manual but hey-ho. From what I've read & heard the box is as good as any torque converter box on the market & I suppose it's fitment has as much to do with WLTP as anything else, but I find it just blunts & spoils the driving experience, especially for an "S" model. I honestly though that I would get used to the box, but no. Seems it doesn't matter how much trickery is stacked on top of the cogs, it's still going to change at inadvertent times & kick-down is a bit brutal. I can't help but notice that the RS4 doesn't kick-down in Tiptronic - that would be nice!
The box has been a bit of a downer, but not such that I would want rid of such a good car! I can't help but think that when it's next time to change car, what will I get if everything from mild hatch up is going auto.
The only thing preventing me from keeping the S4 beyond my 2 year lease is the f***!!#ing pre-sense. Diabolical invention. No way of switching it off permanently. And even a change to the sensitivity gets reset on turning off the ignition. I can't stand cars that need a pre-flight check via a deep dive into a sub-sub-sub-menu when you turn the ignition. Inevitably one forgets.
The last time it kicked in, the car stood on its nose coming out of a roundabout. Nothing in front for 200 yards. Surprised there haven't been a tonne of lawsuits against the manufacturer.
Otherwise a perfectly excellent car.
The last time it kicked in, the car stood on its nose coming out of a roundabout. Nothing in front for 200 yards. Surprised there haven't been a tonne of lawsuits against the manufacturer.
Otherwise a perfectly excellent car.
Harris_I said:
The only thing preventing me from keeping the S4 beyond my 2 year lease is the f***!!#ing pre-sense. Diabolical invention. No way of switching it off permanently. And even a change to the sensitivity gets reset on turning off the ignition. I can't stand cars that need a pre-flight check via a deep dive into a sub-sub-sub-menu when you turn the ignition. Inevitably one forgets.
The last time it kicked in, the car stood on its nose coming out of a roundabout. Nothing in front for 200 yards. Surprised there haven't been a tonne of lawsuits against the manufacturer.
Otherwise a perfectly excellent car.
I agree I’ve had this problem too. Sometimes get the fright off my life.The last time it kicked in, the car stood on its nose coming out of a roundabout. Nothing in front for 200 yards. Surprised there haven't been a tonne of lawsuits against the manufacturer.
Otherwise a perfectly excellent car.
Although mine doesn’t reset when I turn off the ignition? It stays at the setting I set it to.
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