2.0 TDI, Touran. Bearing visible stuck on campsite..

[wiliferus]

Nothing to add OP to your actual issue, other than to say your car def does have a DMF.
The ex wife has a 2.0tdi Touran on an 05 plate, and that's got one as I recall wincing as I paid to have a new one fitted at 120k miles.

[Fuzzy69r]

Chester draws said:

Cheers guys.

@fuzzy, I shan't be pulling any bearings or drain plugs myself but that does seem like a reasonable step for first investigations.

@paintman, some of those balls are definitely quite faceted, I've not been able to pin down exactly what that bearing should look like.

@saaby, interesting but I don't think know if this technology existed 11 years ago.

Looking like Tuesday morning before anything much will happen, and we'll have to leave the car and the trailer tent down here. I do have one garage confirmed they will look at it if I get it recovered to them.

ETA

@fuzzy,
following the oil trail?? I've driven the last 10 miles to the site twice since we arrived and I've not seen it on the roadside. Thinking I might be misunderstanding but I'm at the bottom of another bottle of wine myself. The oil is mostly spattered around the inner ring, driveshaft, CV boots, droplink etc.

Edited by Chester draws on Sunday 28th May 22:12

It honestly sounded better going through the gin and tonic filter in my head , might be best just to keep those mental thoughts to myself

[Alucidnation]

You certainly shouldn't let your wife/girlfriend hold your beer whilst taking a picture of the BBQ.

[TooMany2cvs]

Chester draws said:

Any inkling as to whether that end bearing can be replaced just by removing the wheel and inner wing plastic liner piece?

It's almost academic, I suspect, because the bearing probably wasn't the root cause of the failure, just a symptom.

So what - further in - DID cause it all...?

And that's why VAG will just swap the box.

[Chester draws]

Alucidnation said:

You certainly shouldn't let your wife/girlfriend hold your beer whilst taking a picture of the BBQ.

If you're saying I have lovely feminine hands, then, errm, thank you.

TooMany2cvs said:

Chester draws said:

Any inkling as to whether that end bearing can be replaced just by removing the wheel and inner wing plastic liner piece?

It's almost academic, I suspect, because the bearing probably wasn't the root cause of the failure, just a symptom.

So what - further in - DID cause it all...?

And that's why VAG will just swap the box.

Which is also academic, as a VW main dealer is the last place it'll be going to.

That exposed & damaged bearing is, at the moment, the only symptom. All gears were working as normal.

[Josho]

The bearings just worn that is the issue.

No balls are missing from memory just the spacers.

[Chester draws]

Rather sad moment today leaving the campsite on a recovery truck.



But it's now home and I've spoken with a few Dorset mechanics as well as a couple local to home, and the consensus seems to be stick in a reconditioned 'box.

If it's all out is it a no-brainer to have a new clutch and flywheel (DMF) put in at the same time?
1 guy did suggest that the clutch could have been to blame.

[TooMany2cvs]

Chester draws said:

If it's all out is it a no-brainer to have a new clutch and flywheel (DMF) put in at the same time?

Gawd, absolutely!

Labour cost now - zero.
Labour cost if/when needed later - substantial.

[Chester draws]

Thought as much. Also reduces possibility of worn clutch or DMF failing in the future and taking out something else with it.

[Josho]

Whoever said clutch could cause it is talking absolute nonsense just so you know!

[Chester draws]

UPDATE / CONCLUSION.

Car was recovered to local garage last Friday, gearbox was removed and sent to BIll Knight near Basingstoke to rebuild before being put back in the car with a new clutch and DMF.

All for a sum not massively more than a new clutch would have cost. (Which could have gone soon and would have necessitated a new flywheel anyway). That's what I'm telling myself anyway.

Suspected cause was disintegration of the nylon end cap, (causing the oil to escape and the bearing to fail). (Not the clutch (thanks josho, it didn't go to that guy!)).


Cheers to everyone.

[paintman]

Result!
Thanks for letting us know.

[Chester draws]

Hmm, actually I'm probably making it sound a bit better than it was. It definitely was a big bill (£1600), but a clutch and flywheel could have easily been half that and would have needed doing sooner or later.

So the actual "man maths" calculated bill was only about £800 for the gearbox failure.