Golf R engine blown

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Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Welshbeef said:
HONESLTY that’s what I believed would have been he case from the off - drive a car by vault into a wall insurance pays you pay excess + premium hike or anything else.
I’d never considered the scenario pre the thread but good to see OP got it sorted + cash back before Xmas well played.
That's a fair point, fudging a gear change and blowing up an engine or running out of talent and falling off the road both result in accidental damage caused by the driver, so fully comp insurance should fix either case.

I guess the problem would be if the car was not as new as the OPs, and the insurance could claim a failure was caused by wear and tear rather than accidental damage.

liner33

10,690 posts

202 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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My old boss drove into a flooded road and hydraulic-ed his engine , insurance paid out fine

Good news op ! smile

Frankstar123

162 posts

135 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Good news Beanie!

You buying an automatic next winkeekwink

Seriously though anyone reading this who get refused an insurance payout, always always take it to ombudsman.


anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Frankstar123 said:
Good news Beanie!
always always take it to ombudsman.
Which one though.

Olivera

7,142 posts

239 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Frankstar123 said:
Good news Beanie!

You buying an automatic next winkeekwink

Seriously though anyone reading this who get refused an insurance payout, always always take it to ombudsman.
It's a good result for the OP, but the ombudsman hasn't so far ruled on the case (and likely wouldn't do for a long time) although his insurer seems to have capitulated.

OP was there any explanation of why this damage is covered by your insurance?

Beanie

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199 posts

99 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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The financial ombudsman governs the insurance industry.

Yes the ombudsman hasn't needed to rule, just the complaint was enough for the insurer to take a look. Resolved. Case closed.

It was covered as accidental damage - at fault.

Olivera

7,142 posts

239 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Beanie said:
It was covered as accidental damage - at fault.
That defies what's written in every motor insurance policy. Oh well you got lucky thumbup

Beanie

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199 posts

99 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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How do you figure that?

Intentional damage is not covered

Accidental is, as that's what insurance is for, accidents

Edited by Beanie on Friday 24th November 17:30

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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if you are fully covered, at fault still would pay out is my understanding.

ChimaeraKev

84 posts

115 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Hi Beanie,

I must admit that I have just spent the best part of an hour reading through all 36 pages of this thread, and I can't express how chuffed I am with the outcome. Well done.

It would be interesting to find out if there ever was a over-rev on the old engine, but I'm guessing we'll never find out. It's not like VW are going to turn around and say "Hey guess what, it was a faulty sensor all along! No harm done eh?"

All the best,
Kev


Beanie

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199 posts

99 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Thanks Kev thumbup

gd49

302 posts

171 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Beanie said:
The financial ombudsman governs the insurance industry.

Yes the ombudsman hasn't needed to rule, just the complaint was enough for the insurer to take a look. Resolved. Case closed.

It was covered as accidental damage - at fault.
Insurance companies have to pay for the ombudsman investigation, so if they aren't absolutely certain of their case they'll often cut their losses at that point

Gary C

12,441 posts

179 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Would love to know what happened in the engine, any chance of that ?

helix402

7,861 posts

182 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Gary C said:
Would love to know what happened in the engine, any chance of that ?
No, it’s explained why earlier in the thread.

marcosgt

11,021 posts

176 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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liner33 said:
My old boss drove into a flooded road and hydraulic-ed his engine , insurance paid out fine

Good news op ! smile
Mine too - On a Merc CLS!

M

pavarotti1980

4,897 posts

84 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Olivera said:
That defies what's written in every motor insurance policy. Oh well you got lucky thumbup
Surely an insurance company will pay out if you have an accident and you are at fault? Isnt that the point of insurance?

RS Grant

1,427 posts

233 months

Monday 27th November 2017
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Think I've ignored this thread for a good 25+ pages now, glad there was a thread revival to let us know the outcome though.. and very glad that you got it sorted out Beanie. It was an almost ideal outcome; you got your money back and those who think they can do what they like (dealerships/insurance companies) have been called out and had a rocket up their ar$es!!

SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

220 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Beanie said:
I see your point but where do you draw the line?

Same can be said for putting wrong fuel in

Or front ending a car on purpose, may aswel get the stone chips on the bonnet and the engine done at the same time?

That's why there are insurance investigators, to stop fraud.

I had nothing to gain from it
The people who put the wrong fuel in are just as stupid as the people who destroy engines, but thankfully for our premiums, one is considerably cheaper than the other to put right. And some ins companies actually cover misfuelling. They don't and shouldn't cover ineptitude behind the wheel.

Perhaps I should drive my car through my living room wall and get my insurance company to pay for a new car, and a new house? What do I have to lose? What should I care if it's moral fraud or not? Why should I take any responsibility for my own actions?




Blaster72

10,838 posts

197 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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SuperchargedVR6 said:
The people who put the wrong fuel in are just as stupid as the people who destroy engines, but thankfully for our premiums, one is considerably cheaper than the other to put right. And some ins companies actually cover misfuelling. They don't and shouldn't cover ineptitude behind the wheel.

Perhaps I should drive my car through my living room wall and get my insurance company to pay for a new car, and a new house? What do I have to lose? What should I care if it's moral fraud or not? Why should I take any responsibility for my own actions?
Going by that same ethos you would dismiss 99% of claims as most accidents are caused by driver error. You buy insurance and pay whopping premiums each year to protect against costly mistakes. I'm glad the OP managed to get it covered by the insurance, in my eyes it's no different to piling into the back of someone because you weren't concentrating enough.

Beanie

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199 posts

99 months

Wednesday 29th November 2017
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SuperchargedVR6 said:
Beanie said:
I see your point but where do you draw the line?

Same can be said for putting wrong fuel in

Or front ending a car on purpose, may aswel get the stone chips on the bonnet and the engine done at the same time?

That's why there are insurance investigators, to stop fraud.

I had nothing to gain from it
The people who put the wrong fuel in are just as stupid as the people who destroy engines, but thankfully for our premiums, one is considerably cheaper than the other to put right. And some ins companies actually cover misfuelling. They don't and shouldn't cover ineptitude behind the wheel.

Perhaps I should drive my car through my living room wall and get my insurance company to pay for a new car, and a new house? What do I have to lose? What should I care if it's moral fraud or not? Why should I take any responsibility for my own actions?
So Im pretty sure this was my first ever 'at fault' claim on my insurance in 20 years of driving.

The industry will have done well out of my premiums to date and made a fortune. And I'm damn sure they will make me pay in my future premiums for my 1 claim in 20 years.

I'm sure from your response you have never ever made an 'at fault claim' on your insurance. I suppose you never will need to either???