Golf R vs Golf GTi vs Golf R32?

Golf R vs Golf GTi vs Golf R32?

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Octoposse

Original Poster:

2,160 posts

185 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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I need a performance Golf in my life. (Various reasons, including space on the drive).

Underlying query is - if the GTi is so good (which I understand that it is), is it worth spending more on an R?

(Second hand, manual, three door, if that makes any difference).

Thanks!

andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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I’d discount the R32 immediately, I just didn’t like mine and it ended up being sold very soon after I bought it. Assuming we’re talking MK7 with the GTI/R then you really have to drive both, they are very different to drive.

Swampy1982

3,305 posts

111 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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What's your budget? And what other cars do you have?

Octoposse

Original Poster:

2,160 posts

185 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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Swampy1982 said:
What's your budget? And what other cars do you have?
Haven't determined budget, but clearly new is out. Will be a long term keeper.

Other cars are a 1987 Porsche 944, and a 1983 T25 camper, hence need for reliable everyday 20 mile cross country commute and long distance car.

I've driven a Mk7 GTi and loved it. Can an R be any better?

Brainpox

4,055 posts

151 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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You need to drive the R to decide for yourself really. It's faster in a straight line but much heavier and no optional diff so not as great in the corners.

The R32 is a slouch compared to either. It has its charm but it's more of a cruiser than a hot hatch. Not that fast but makes a nice noise.

Belle427

8,954 posts

233 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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If it were me it’s between the Gti and the R, the 4wd of the R would sway it just.
I don’t like the seats or exhausts on the R but I’m not sure that would be enough to stop me buying one.
It would seem to be the perfect all round car that does everything well.

The Cardinal

1,267 posts

252 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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I've had a Mk5 R32 (later supercharged) and Mk5 GTI, as well as two 2.0T A3s and an S3.

The R32 is quite an event and, depending on your tastes, may give you a deeper satisfaction than any alternative. It certainly did for me.

Everyone has their own outlook and preferences, but I'm puzzled how often people say that the R32 is a sloth. It's a naturally-aspirated engine and needs to be worked hard for all-out performance, but it's certainly faster than non-mapped turbo engines of its day and - crucially - gives a performance that is so instant, unquantifiable by its nature. It also notably comes into its own at motorway speeds.

If you like the idea of savouring the sensation, then go for the R32. If you tend instead towards something fast for the sake of it, then get something with a big turbo... or, like me, have the best of both worlds by supercharging an R32. wink

va1o

16,032 posts

207 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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The Mk7 GTI is a great car, it's a hot hatchback in the purest form possible. At it's best with the Manual 'box and Performance Pack IMO for the most involving drive.

The R takes things up to another level with the sheer amount of power on offer and feels like a totally different animal. The 4WD really helps with making the full performance easily accessible. Works best with the DSG 'box. But it clearly costs more and arguably has less character than a GTI!

I wouldn't bother with the R32 as it's a much older car (newest examples will be 10 years now) with much higher running costs. A new GTI will probably be faster in certain situations. The V6 soundtrack is all it has going for it IMO, but each to there own

Peanus

155 posts

105 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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Golf R is a very fast car and effortlessly so. I love mine. It’s fast everywhere in all conditions so there’s never a moment where I feel I’m not “wasting” the car for 60% of the year. The Golf R is also quite relaxed to drive briskly. You never have to hammer it to get up to speed, but if you do it’s an absolute riot. The quad exhausts give it a nice noise too despite the 4-pot caveat.

Keep in mind though that if you insist on a manual R the clutch is TERRIBLE and probably won’t last long. It’s a common issue with them. Most often they’re replaced with Sachs organic clutches. I would factor this into your costs when looking at an R!