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otolith said:
Matter of taste I guess - if I had to have a porky, automatic car without a nice sounding engine for about 40k, I'd rather have a Model 3. Neither is particularly my cup of tea, for exactly the same reasons.
So you want a car that costs less per mile to own. You don’t want a fun hot hatch. That’s entirely your prerogative. I am intrigued by it and do need a go at some point. Still think the Type-R or CS would be more fun, the R maybe a bit too good. Sure it's blistering off the line but 0-60 doesn't mean much to me. That's more fun on a bike anyway. For me it's all about handling and steering feel. So much VAG stuff feels completely numb.
otolith said:
Gazzab said:
So you want a car that costs less per mile to own. You don’t want a fun hot hatch. That’s entirely your prerogative.
No, it's more that the Golf isn't my idea of a fun hot hatch. It's a fast, porky family car.tedblog said:
I totally agree.
When they interviewed the Vauxhall chairman ref electric cars he replied as 90% of cars are purchased with a pcp an electric corsa only adds £20 a month over the petrol model.
Its the price you pay a month now
True - but the only reason that PCP is relatively sensible is ultra-low interest rates and copious credit availability. You are essentially borrowing the depreciation for (usually) the first three years. With low interest rates, that works out to be a 'affordable' monthly payment.... Which most just keep on doing ad-infitum and get a new motor every three years. Essentially, you are continuously paying the large costs on a new car but split into monthly payments to take the sting out. Anyway, that's my gripe done......When they interviewed the Vauxhall chairman ref electric cars he replied as 90% of cars are purchased with a pcp an electric corsa only adds £20 a month over the petrol model.
Its the price you pay a month now
Personally, as a current Mk7 R owner this just doesn't appeal. Front end is ugly, interior isn't much better than the typical nasty standard Mk8 interior (both IMO of course) and the underlying engine and drivetrain boosts aren't really that impressive for the seven year gap.
It will be interesting to see how it sells without the mentally low PCP deals that shifted large amounts of the original Mk7 R (I bought mine outright, for what it's worth and am now riding the gentle post 3-year depreciation curve).
Lucas Ayde said:
tedblog said:
I totally agree.
When they interviewed the Vauxhall chairman ref electric cars he replied as 90% of cars are purchased with a pcp an electric corsa only adds £20 a month over the petrol model.
Its the price you pay a month now
True - but the only reason that PCP is relatively sensible is ultra-low interest rates and copious credit availability. You are essentially borrowing the depreciation for (usually) the first three years. With low interest rates, that works out to be a 'affordable' monthly payment.... Which most just keep on doing ad-infitum and get a new motor every three years. Essentially, you are continuously paying the large costs on a new car but split into monthly payments to take the sting out. Anyway, that's my gripe done......When they interviewed the Vauxhall chairman ref electric cars he replied as 90% of cars are purchased with a pcp an electric corsa only adds £20 a month over the petrol model.
Its the price you pay a month now
Personally, as a current Mk7 R owner this just doesn't appeal. Front end is ugly, interior isn't much better than the typical nasty standard Mk8 interior (both IMO of course) and the underlying engine and drivetrain boosts aren't really that impressive for the seven year gap.
It will be interesting to see how it sells without the mentally low PCP deals that shifted large amounts of the original Mk7 R (I bought mine outright, for what it's worth and am now riding the gentle post 3-year depreciation curve).
Lucas Ayde said:
It will be interesting to see how it sells without the mentally low PCP deals that shifted large amounts of the original Mk7 R (I bought mine outright, for what it's worth and am now riding the gentle post 3-year depreciation curve).
It an irrelevant question as no one really buys cars outright these days or with hp. With over 80% purchased on pcps we are too far down the line to stop as the car industry would collapse if they did.Their will always be incentives to pcp , like with a dealer contribution on the golf already . Vag have their own financial arm so easier to offer low rates to shift numbers which is ultimately what they are all about.
The next phase will be paying a monthly fee and you will have different cars to suit your needs throughout the year.
Actual car ownership is fading into the past?
Edited by tedblog on Thursday 1st April 07:07
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