Bianca Williams partner stopped by police again

Bianca Williams partner stopped by police again

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272BHP

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5,084 posts

236 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/aug/14/sp...

He recorded the interaction in his Tesla. I don't think he has done himself any favours this time by doing so.

andyA700

2,713 posts

37 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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272BHP said:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/aug/14/sp...

He recorded the interaction in his Tesla. I don't think he has done himself any favours this time by doing so.
Really, given what happened the previous time, when both of them were handcuffed whilst the baby was left alone in the car. Do you think it is appropriate that seven police officers were sent to deal with this, you know, someone suspected of using their mobile phone whilst driving? Their three year old child's details are now on a police database - why?
The Met Police have a very bad history, very bad indeed and you don't need to scratch the surface very deeply to come up with absolute horror stories about them.
I would advise anyone to record any interaction like this one with police, because quite frankly, they cannot be trusted.

CheesecakeRunner

3,809 posts

91 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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I’d like to see the bit of the video in between him pulling alongside the police car, and then the stop.

Because according to other reports, he exchanged words with the police and then drove off for another 5 minutes. That’s a long time to find a spot to stop. So I can understand why the police treated it as a fail to stop.

That said, you’d have thought they’d have checked his plate and seen notes against it. Failure of the attitude test on both sides really.

Vanden Saab

14,108 posts

74 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Never mind failing to stop for police why was he driving in the middle lane?

XCP

16,919 posts

228 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Is it the same vehicle as in the previous incident? ( I recall that being an SUV).

If not, why would it feature on any police system?

Earthdweller

13,570 posts

126 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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andyA700 said:
Really, given what happened the previous time, when both of them were handcuffed whilst the baby was left alone in the car. Do you think it is appropriate that seven police officers were sent to deal with this, you know, someone suspected of using their mobile phone whilst driving? Their three year old child's details are now on a police database - why?
The Met Police have a very bad history, very bad indeed and you don't need to scratch the surface very deeply to come up with absolute horror stories about them.
I would advise anyone to record any interaction like this one with police, because quite frankly, they cannot be trusted.
Let’s just put this into perspective

It was 4am .. officers in one car saw the Tesla being driven and believed the driver was using a mobile phone

They indicated for it to stop

The vehicle failed to stop and the officers in the first car called for advanced pursuit trained assistance (someone on Twitter has plotted the distance and it was about 2 miles)

When the advanced pursuit vehicles with pursuit trained officers arrived and signalled for the car to stop .. it didn’t

A Police Armed response vehicle overtook the car and slowed in front of it

The Tesla attempted to drive around the Police ARV

The Armed offficers were there as they were in

1. An advanced pursuit authorised vehicle
2. They are advanced trained drivers who are authorised to pursue

Summons him for using a phone (if he was) and failing to stop for police

Complete non story

voyds9

8,488 posts

283 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Some people just seem to attract police attention.

CheesecakeRunner

3,809 posts

91 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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XCP said:
Is it the same vehicle as in the previous incident? ( I recall that being an SUV).

If not, why would it feature on any police system?
Surely they see the registered keeper? And if what he says about him and his kids have records against them, then that’d pop up.

Earthdweller

13,570 posts

126 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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CheesecakeRunner said:
Surely they see the registered keeper? And if what he says about him and his kids have records against them, then that’d pop up.
No it wouldn’t

In any case what relevance does it have an unidentified person in the vehicle committing an offence that the officers are dealing with in real time ?

Does having a previous “publicised” interaction with the police mean you can just do what you like with a “get out of jail free card” ?

jamesson

2,991 posts

221 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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CheesecakeRunner said:
Surely they see the registered keeper? And if what he says about him and his kids have records against them, then that’d pop up.
It would show the registered keeper's name and vehicle details but it doesn't immediately show dealings that person has had with the police. And if you'd never heard of the bloke, you wouldn't think anything of it.

Besides, you wouldn't be reading everything about him in that situation, you'd be dealing with the fact he was failing to stop.

thebraketester

14,237 posts

138 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Vanden Saab said:
Never mind failing to stop for police why was he driving in the middle lane?
Tesla.

ED209

5,746 posts

244 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Earthdweller said:
Let’s just put this into perspective

It was 4am .. officers in one car saw the Tesla being driven and believed the driver was using a mobile phone

They indicated for it to stop

The vehicle failed to stop and the officers in the first car called for advanced pursuit trained assistance (someone on Twitter has plotted the distance and it was about 2 miles)

When the advanced pursuit vehicles with pursuit trained officers arrived and signalled for the car to stop .. it didn’t

A Police Armed response vehicle overtook the car and slowed in front of it

The Tesla attempted to drive around the Police ARV

The Armed offficers were there as they were in

1. An advanced pursuit authorised vehicle
2. They are advanced trained drivers who are authorised to pursue

Summons him for using a phone (if he was) and failing to stop for police

Complete non story
This exactly, from his own video he drove past lots of places where it was perfectly safe to stop. He seems out to create situations for his own agenda.

CoolHands

18,658 posts

195 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Won’t get done for fail to stop and we all know it. Looking for safe place to stop. Seems he’s a bit of a dick head

CooperD

2,870 posts

177 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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I see loads of people driving whilst using their mobile phones. You're lucky to see one policeman let alone Seven!!

CoolHands

18,658 posts

195 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Wonder if the officer(s) in the first car will get disciplinary for racially profiling him as the last lot did. Ie they pulled him over because it was 4am and they didn’t like the look of him and the using a phone was just an excuse.

Does tesla film inside too? To prove he never used his phone. He’s created a drama so I’m certain he wasn’t using it, if he had been he wouldn’t have done this.

Randy Winkman

16,144 posts

189 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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voyds9 said:
Some people just seem to attract police attention.
Hmmmm. I'm sure that you don't mean black people but others might say that's the case.

bitchstewie

51,281 posts

210 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Struggling with why he didn't pull over earlier from what I can see on the video.

Clear open well lit road in the early hours seems pretty safe to me?

Smiler.

11,752 posts

230 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Randy Winkman said:
voyds9 said:
Some people just seem to attract police attention.
Hmmmm. I'm sure that you don't mean black people but others might say that's the case.
What do you think they mean?

JagLover

42,426 posts

235 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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ED209 said:
This exactly, from his own video he drove past lots of places where it was perfectly safe to stop. He seems out to create situations for his own agenda.
Yep

Why does whatever has happened in the past give him an exemption from routine traffic stops by the police?.

Lotobear

6,355 posts

128 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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bhstewie said:
Struggling with why he didn't pull over earlier from what I can see on the video.

Clear open well lit road in the early hours seems pretty safe to me?
Possibly because there would have been no 'story' had he complied and done the right thing?