Audi's MultiTronic Gearbox

[Tame Technician]

2005 would probably have the 7 plate clutch anyway. I dont have the info as two when it was put in production infront of my, maybe some one else here can confirm that.

But I can tell you its a completely separate repair to the ECU. The ECU in inside at the rear of the gearbox and is changed with the gearbox still in the car. The 7 plate clutch or input shaft mod requires the whole gearbox removed and is a much more expensive job. Somthing like 7 hours vs 1.5 for the ECU.

At that age and mileage, Good will claim should pay at least half the ECU repair cost,

[Higgaty]

Half of repair cost offered by local Audi dealer. Am going through Audi UK customer services to see if they will pay for all parts and I pay labour only. Was quoted 4hrs plus labour to do job. Seems a bit long for ECU replacement. More discussion required on that front!

[tiotary]

Hello guys~

I'm new here. Stumbled across here when I was researching about audi multitronic... Been eyeing at the new 09 Audi A4 1.8T with multitronic. All I read about multitronic is negative... But mostly on the older models. How about the the multitronic on the new 09 A4?


Thanks in advance!

[sunman]

I have a 2007 A4 multitronic avant; one the car has warmed up the box is fab, tons of torque in all gears, the sports option is great when you want to overtake, can't say enough good things about it, very pleased

[Raven Flyer]

Tame Technician said:

if you simply must have auto, make sure its a quarto with tip-tronic.

Why are these better/more reliable?

[Tame Technician]

Tipronic's are much more reliable, usual failures occur over 120,000 miles. Multi on the other hand can go at any time it seems. Seen then fail as low as 4000miles, but typically 60 - 80k.

The tiptronic is just a normal automatic gearbox, you know with a torque converter. Its no different to any other normal automatic gearbox, but they do seem to be very reliable. Bur they are onlt fitted to quattro A4 A5 A6, the front wheel drive autos are multitronics.

Muti is nothing like any other gearbox, I personally dont like the way it works even when its working, but thats never for very long.


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[Raven Flyer]

I may have had a lucky escape.

I was looking for 2WD A6 2.7 auto but bought a Quattro with a tippy box, two weeks ago.

[defblade]

I've got an x-reg A6 avant with multitronic. It's on 133k miles, box oil changes have been done each 40k by audi according to the history.

I rather like it and have had no problems at all in the nearly 20k I've put on it over the last year or so. Indie-tech recommend oil every 20k, mind you, so I intend splitting the difference at 30k.


Having typed all that, I expect it'll die forever on the way home tonight.....

[dizzym]

Hi - I'm new to this forum - very helpful by the way.

I've just bought a second hand 2004 Audi A4 2.0 SE Avant petrol with Multitronic gearbox. It's got 32,000 miles on the clock, full Audi service history, etc. I've had it for a month and so far no complaints and drives very well.

Any advice? Anything I can do to pre-empt some of the problems that have been discussed on this forum with regards to the Multitronic gearbox?

In the event that anything did go wrong with it? Would I still be able to rely on the "good will" of Audi if I take it to one of their dealerships here in West London? What is the standard warranty on a 2004 Audi? X miles? X years? (or both?).

The famous 40,000 mile oil change is one that I must not miss - this must be done at Audi? Any idea how much that will cost?

Many thanks

[Dracoro]

TT will give the best advice, however given the car is 5 years old, I'd get it done now.

[Tame Technician]

dizzym said:

Hi - I'm new to this forum - very helpful by the way.

I've just bought a second hand 2004 Audi A4 2.0 SE Avant petrol with Multitronic gearbox. It's got 32,000 miles on the clock, full Audi service history, etc. I've had it for a month and so far no complaints and drives very well.

Any advice? Anything I can do to pre-empt some of the problems that have been discussed on this forum with regards to the Multitronic gearbox?

In the event that anything did go wrong with it? Would I still be able to rely on the "good will" of Audi if I take it to one of their dealerships here in West London? What is the standard warranty on a 2004 Audi? X miles? X years? (or both?).

The famous 40,000 mile oil change is one that I must not miss - this must be done at Audi? Any idea how much that will cost?

Many thanks

Firstly ring the dealer or dealers who are in the service book. Ask then to tell you the history they have for the car. In particular has it had the gearbox oil changed and at what mileage. If it hasnt I would get it done now, dont wait for 40k. If you ring you local audi centre they will be able to give you a price fairly quickly with the service advisors quick quote system. I'm not sure of the cost but £109 rings a bell. You will need reg and or Vin number handy when you make the call.

Manufactures warranty is 3 years or 60,000 miles, which ever comes first. I think it may be too old for good will, but I dont get to involved with that so cant be sure.

There isnt really anything else you can do, lots of them play up and go wrong, but equally there are many post on here from people with trouble free motoring. Just hope you are one of the lucky ones.

[dizzym]

many thanks for your swift reply - I'll follow your advice and see how I get on - i'll update the forum if anything worthwhile turns up.

[beetlejuice67]

no you are not alone on what you say about multitronic gearboxes.as i found out to my own mis fortune .i purchased a a4 2.4 se 6speed multitronic automatic on a 53 plate and had i knowen what i now know i would have bought a manual.as the box on my audi is now kaput and a replacement if fitted by audi is £4,400+vat and at £121.71 per hour .which works out to be a seven to 10 hour jobtakes the cost of replacement close to £8,000 more than the cars worth .at the moment i shopping around with salvage and recondition .to put a seven speed box with a new ecu is close to £2,500 to a recon box is about the same .so i have to make sure i get the right engine codes and chassis numbers.i think the boffins at audi need to get out more and make cars not commputers

[DazzaG]

Hi. I own a 2002 A4 2.5 TDI with multitronic. I've owned the car for 4 years and it has now done 48,000 miles. Until about 500 miles ago it hadn't missed a beat but it has started to develop a problem where once the engine is up to temperature the throttle response starts to go awire, you can floor the throttle, the gearbox does kick down but then nothing happens until 2 or 3 seconds later when suddenly the throttle opens and the power comes in. The car has been examined twice now by my local dealer and no faults are showing up on their system. However the first time they had it to look for the problem they said the gearbox oil needs changing. I've now learnt from this forum that this should have been done before 40,000 miles, not at 47,500. The car has full Audi Service history and this same dealer has done all maintainence on the car during the time I bought it with less than 20,000 miles on the clock. I've always had it serviced right on time. I picked the car up last week after the second time they've looked for the problem to be told it could be a problem with the control unit and that I'm probably looking at a £1000+ bill if that needs replacing. My question is a) Could not changing the oil at 40,000 miles cause damage to the control unit? and b) has anyone else experienced a similiar problem with the throttle response once the engine is up to temperature?

[sublimatica]

DazzaG said:

it has started to develop a problem where once the engine is up to temperature the throttle response starts to go awire, you can floor the throttle, the gearbox does kick down but then nothing happens until 2 or 3 seconds later when suddenly the throttle opens and the power comes in

Could it be a MAF sensor problem? (Surely not if the dealer hasn't diagnosed this.)

[Millie75]

Hello
I was wondering if anyone can help me. I have owned my Audi A4 Avant for just over two years now. It is the 1.8 s-line. It has a tip-tronic gearbox and for the last couple of weeks, sometimes when i put it into reverse the parking sensor doesn't sound and then the display on the dashboard (where it shows what gear you are in), flashes. The car still reverses fine, but the parking sensors don't work. The problem seems to right itself if you turn the ignition off. Has anyone come across this problem before and do you know what it can be. I am just concerned about taking it to a garage so i can prepare myself for the shock in case it is expensive to sort out!
Thanks in advance for your help!!

[v_unhappy]

New to this forum - just come across it as I have had the misfortune of dreaded multitronic misery.

A4 3.0, under 35k miles, full service history. Suddenly lost all gears with no warning. Reading through posts and thinking back I recognise some of the symptoms that I have experienced over time - even when it was well within warranty - juddering on pull off, problems getting reverse. Just didnt realise seriousness at time.

Anyway just wondering if anyone has ever gathered all the stats on number of failures that have occured - I think that this problem is way too big for Audi to pretend doesnt exist.

Been advised that this isnt a "known problem" by Audi UK - wonder how many similar gearbox failures constitute a known problem.

Does anyone know if anyone has ever taken this to court or to TV consumer program? Really dont expect such shoddy treatment from a supposed quality manufacturer.

[yeedes]

Does any know where the wheel speed sensors are on a petrol A6 2004? I was optimistically hoping that cleaning them might solve a juddery uptake?? Much appreciated - thanks

[yeedes]

Juddering is just the latest problem. Preiously had the ecu go wrong. Let me know how you go as I am keen to get Audi to pay for the bulk of a new gearbox - I think without doubt something that has been well known about for a while. The problem is only going to get worse as all the 02,03 and 04 cars start to hit the dreaded 60-80k miles... [e-mail] if you're keen to take this further... I really find it totally unacceptable to be hit with a £5k bill on a five yr old (expensive) car with full ASH

[Tame Technician]

yeedes said:

Does any know where the wheel speed sensors are on a petrol A6 2004? I was optimistically hoping that cleaning them might solve a juddery uptake?? Much appreciated - thanks

Fitted to the hubs near each wheel. Cant see it will have anything to do with gearbox judder though, sorry.

You probably wont be able to take them out to clean anyway as they are usually seized in. And they are not the type that improve with cleaning anyway, thats the older inductive pick up speed sensors.