RE: Audi reveals new S3 quattro

RE: Audi reveals new S3 quattro

Wednesday 2nd August 2006

Audi reveals new S3 quattro

Quicker and more sporty but will it handle?


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Audi has unveiled the performance edition of the A3 -- the new 261bhp S3 with permanent four-wheel drive.

Audi describes the turbocharged 2.0-litre four-cylinder powerplant as "aggressively hard-hitting, free-revving and with a sonorous acoustic profile". It hits 62mph in 5.7 seconds, and Vmax is electronically limited to 155mph. This power is transmitted by the six-speed gearbox and quattro drive to 18-inch alloy wheels.

According to Audi's breathless blurb, "the new S sports suspension system on the S3 enables a sporty driving style combined with the ultimate in comfort. This sporty compact model responds actively to steering movements, exhibits precise and safe handling characteristics and, thanks to quattro technology, enables maximum acceleration out of bends."

Engine and transmission

The 2.0 TFSI combines direct injection and turbocharger technology and at 2,500 rpm it raises 258lb-ft of torque, remaining constant up to 5,000 rpm. In the combined driving cycle, the 2.0 TFSI returns a combined economy figure of 25.7mpg -- a result of its direct petrol injection technology, according to Audi.

Compared with the A3, this engine has undergone fundamental changes. The new turbocharger with its enlarged turbine and compressor rotor generates 1.2 bar of boost pressure, and a modified intercooler lowers the compressed air's temperature, increasing the air mass available for combustion.

Pistons with stronger pins and strengthened connecting rods with new bearings transmit the forces to the crankshaft. The cylinder block has been stiffened and the head is made of a new, highly heat-resistant alloy. The exhaust camshaft timing has been adjusted to accommodate the increased power output. High-pressure injectors with an enlarged cross-section squirt the fuel straight into the combustion chamber.

The turbo weighs 152Kg -- less than comparable power plants from direct competitors according to Audi -- which has a positive effect on axle load distribution. The compact dimensions of the 2.0 TFSI make it suitable for transverse installation, which brings benefits in terms of the S3’s interior space and luggage capacity.

The new S3 has a six-speed, close-ratio manual gearbox with reduced gearshift travel. An electronically controlled multi-plate clutch, positioned at the rear for the benefit of weight balance, distributes the torque as needed – delivering plenty of grip and maximum driving safety. All the components in the drive train have been strengthened to cope with the additional torque.

Handling

The Audi S3 "responds immediately to steering movements and achieves high cornering speeds", said Audi, due to "the innately sophisticated suspension of the A3 – with subframes front and rear, triangulated lower wishbones at the front and four-link suspension at the rear."

Springs and shock absorbers are stiffer, and the body sits 25 mm lower than an A3 with standard suspension. Aluminium pivot bearings and wishbones reduce the weight of the front suspension. It gets stiffer suspension mounts and faster electro-mechanical steering, along with 18-inch alloys and 225/40 tyres.

Style goes with purpose in Audi's case, a single-frame grille sports chrome trim, front skirt with spoiler and large air-intakes, plus restyled side sills. There is a contrasting platinum grey diffuser built into the rear skirt, along with two S-style oval chrome tailpipes. Aluminium-look door mirrors and a body-colour roof spoiler are cosmetic additions.

Interior

According to Audi, the interior is about sportiness and uses high quality materials. It gets sports seats with prominent side sections, black headlining -- also available in silver -- and an instrument cluster with special dials and needles.

The pedals, gear knob and air vents are in aluminium look, the inlays are in piano finish black, or alternatively aluminium or fine grain birch wood grey. The red and silver S3 emblem is to be found on the leather sports steering wheel, in the instrument cluster, on the gear knob and on the door sill trims. The seats are upholstered in a combination of cloth and leather or, as an option, in Alcantara/leather or completely in leather. The two-tone leather seats are decorated with stitching in the same colour as their centre section.

Extras include a leather steering wheel with flat-bottomed rim and – in the quattro GmbH range – folding bucket seats. For sounds, Audi's premium package includes universal interfaces for mobile phone and iPod, plus a sound system from Bose. Standard equipment includes deluxe automatic air conditioning, a driver information system with a new lap-timer function, and an anti-theft alarm. "Front fog lights and xenon plus headlights with daytime running lights underline the impressive price/performance ratio", it says here...

The basic price of the S3 in Germany is €35,150 -- about £24,000 -- although the UK price is likely to be closer to £27,000. expect it in the showrooms next January

And when we get our hands on one, be sure that we'll check it out to see if it really can handle itself on Britain's pock-marked road system.

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r988

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7,495 posts

231 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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article said:
The turbo weighs 152Kg


one heavy turbocharger there

Rest of it just sounds like silly marketing twaddle though, I mean "the innately sophisticated suspension..." give me a break.

burwoodman

18,709 posts

248 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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One good thing...we are now expecting huge hp hikes every 9 months. Soon the daily shopping cart will do 0-60 in 6 secs lol

Not a fan of turbos myself but i like what Audi is doing with its natural aspirated engines.



toppstuff

13,698 posts

249 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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"Front fog lights and xenon plus headlights with daytime running lights underline the impressive price/performance ratio."

Yeah... right.

Who writes this stuff ? Some of the worst marketing copy I have read in a while...

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

232 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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Personally, i'll have one in black with the RS4 alloys:



Or i'll just wait for the RS3 with a 300bhp version of the 3.2 V6...

angrys3owner

15,855 posts

231 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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Doesn't seem enough different to a A3 S-Line in my opinion, it's not the same as the changes between the old A3 - S3 which is a shame, will be interesting to see what it drives like though.

burwoodman

18,709 posts

248 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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I bought an R32 2 months ago-great car but it could do with another 70 hp. So Im with u on the "ill wait for RS3"

angrys3owner

15,855 posts

231 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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burwoodman said:
I bought an R32 2 months ago-great car but it could do with another 70 hp. So Im with u on the "ill wait for RS3"


The S3 should be lighter than the R32 though... however the only official (not autocar rubbish) news I've heard about an RS3 is that it would never be made and they were only going to use the RS badge on the A4 / A6 ranges and that was from someone very high up in an official Audi press release, would be nice though.

antonyb

277 posts

263 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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• UK OTR price confirmed at £26,995

www.audi.co.uk/audi/uk/en2/about_audi_ag/news/press.html

Personally I think it sounds great. S series cars have always been way overpriced. But if you dont care, great cars. IMHO.

Edited by antonyb on Wednesday 2nd August 13:57

beegt

381 posts

218 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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Not sure about the front end, it looks like it's wearing a bow tie

Mr Whippy

29,117 posts

243 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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Bit over-styled yet bland all at the same time though isn't it.

Preferred the Audi S3 look, subtle and sophisticated.

Even the old RS4 and RS6 were kinda butch but normal looking, really not keen on the styling at all. It's bling and bling is so 2004!

Dave

Adam B

27,391 posts

256 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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Looks great but not impressed by the power which will look even wworse in a year or two.

Impressive from a 2.0T with that economy but lesser Astras and Focii are around the 250bhp mark and very out of date Scoobys and Evos deliver more for much less £

With a 2.5T around the 300bhp I would have considered but not this, and they won't build the RS3

Edited by Adam B on Wednesday 2nd August 14:09

r988

Original Poster:

7,495 posts

231 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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angrys3owner said:
burwoodman said:
I bought an R32 2 months ago-great car but it could do with another 70 hp. So Im with u on the "ill wait for RS3"


The S3 should be lighter than the R32 though... however the only official (not autocar rubbish) news I've heard about an RS3 is that it would never be made and they were only going to use the RS badge on the A4 / A6 ranges and that was from someone very high up in an official Audi press release, would be nice though.


Bah, we need another RS2

La Bollocks

23 posts

243 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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My nickname sums up the Audi marketing spin..........

vinceh

154 posts

230 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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Front three-quarter view makes it look depressingly like one of the current ugliest cars on the road - BMW 1 Series. Why would you want to imitate a car that looks like the love-child of a liaison between Darth Vader's headgear and that boot that the old woman lived in?

NickFRP

5,094 posts

237 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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i like it. Alot.

vinceh

154 posts

230 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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NickFRP said:
i like it. Alot.



And wouldn't it be a boring world if we all liked the same things? And PH forums would be pretty quiet!

andy zarse

10,868 posts

249 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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burwoodman said:
I bought an R32 2 months ago-great car but it could do with another 70 hp. So Im with u on the "ill wait for RS3"


I don't really see a connection between the S3 which has the wonderful "real McCoy" Quattro 4wd system and the Golf R32 which is an overweight slob by comparision and only has a useless part time 4wd system. And as for the grille on the R32.... BLING! It would look more at home on an Impreza STI along with the gold wheels and pink writing.

By the way, does anyone know if Audi made a car in the last decade which has actually got a properly resolved handling/grip/ride compromise? If so, I haven't been in one, they are total boneshakers, but mystifyingly they refuse to turn in to a corner properly.

bobalog

77 posts

229 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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I like it too.

As an owner of the previous S3, I think 260bhp is about right. It'll weigh less than the R32 and considering how quick my chipped s3 was at similiar power (and heavier?) it should be quick enough.

Looking forward to hearing how it will handle, especially with audi's new aim to target performance drivers.

angrys3owner

15,855 posts

231 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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andy zarse said:
burwoodman said:
I bought an R32 2 months ago-great car but it could do with another 70 hp. So Im with u on the "ill wait for RS3"


I don't really see a connection between the S3 which has the wonderful "real McCoy" Quattro 4wd system and the Golf R32 which is an overweight slob by comparision and only has a useless part time 4wd system. And as for the grille on the R32.... BLING! It would look more at home on an Impreza STI along with the gold wheels and pink writing.

By the way, does anyone know if Audi made a car in the last decade which has actually got a properly resolved handling/grip/ride compromise? If so, I haven't been in one, they are total boneshakers, but mystifyingly they refuse to turn in to a corner properly.


Think you may want to take a step back and breath... it's got the same 4WD system as the R32 / Golf / A3 the haldex system. Have you been asleep it sounds to me like the latest RS4 is pretty good, I haven't driven one though.

tucker20

285 posts

229 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2006
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Don't think I'll be rushing to replace my S3 with the new one but will probably go for a test drive.
As others have said, very similar to the current S-Line's, those arches should be flared out more Audi!!! I had a feeling I would be disappointed in the styling and sadly I think I am!