Window not working...............

[Hedgehopper]

I would appreciate some advice regarding my driver's side window.
The window is up at the moment but does not respond to the switch being put in the down position, however I can hear a clicking noise in the door. Do these windows have relays behind the door panel, I didn't think that they did.

Also, does anyone have a window wiring diagram, apart from the one in the bible?

Thanks in advance for any help.

[neutral 3]

Whilst crossing Germany in 07, in my first Griff, a 95 model, the drivers window stuck in the down position and about 30 mins later the heavens opened. It rained for almost the next 2 days and the foot well was soaked, but then the window started working again and gave no more trouble up until April 08, when I stupidly sold it !

[Smoggy XJR]

Sorry if this is too obvious but this occasionally happens to my old XJR. Disconnecting the battery for 10 minutes resolves it, (until the next time).

[Steve_D]

There are no relays involved.
It may be the motor failed but I would suspect the switch first. The noise you can hear may be the motor twitching when you try the switch but the switch is not passing enough current to drive the motor. The contacts get dirty/corroded.
Pull the switches out and swap them over. If the problem moves you could just try switching it up/down repeatedly in the hope that it will clean the contacts.

Steve

PM me if you want a diagram....minus power mod.

Edited by Steve_D on Friday 18th January 15:12

[gavgavgav]

Steve_D said:

There are no relays involved.
It may be the motor failed but I would suspect the switch first. The noise you can hear may be the motor twitching when you try the switch but the switch is not passing enough current to drive the motor. The contacts get dirty/corroded.
Pull the switches out and swap them over. If the problem moves you could just try switching it up/down repeatedly in the hope that it will clean the contacts.

Steve

Unless someone did the power mod, by adding a relay and a heavier 12v feed. Before it broke, did it move fast up and down?

[Hedgehopper]

gavgavgav said:

Unless someone did the power mod, by adding a relay and a heavier 12v feed. Before it broke, did it move fast up and down?

It certainly didn't go up & down fast! So I guess no relay added. Thanks anyway.

Thanks Smoggy will try battery reset, has worked for ECU faults in the past.

And thanks Steve..email sent.

[bomb]

If its a new motor required, its an easy change out to do yourself. They are Left handed / Right handed so make sure you get the correct one. Not too expensive to buy.

You just need to remove the door card and trim to allow access then its a few securing bolts to get at. Straight swap.

[Loubaruch]

As said above it could well be the motor or the switch but the glass could also be jamming in the guides.

When I first bought mine the glass refused to move until I removed a child's Ladybird book from inside the door.

[Loubaruch]

As said above it could well be the motor or the switch but the glass could also be jamming in the guides.

When I first bought mine the glass refused to move until I removed a child's Ladybird book from inside the door.

[Jobster]

bomb said:

If its a new motor required, its an easy change out to do yourself. They are Left handed / Right handed so make sure you get the correct one. Not too expensive to buy.

You just need to remove the door card and trim to allow access then its a few securing bolts to get at. Straight swap.

Where can I find these?

[ianwayne]

For 2nd hand ones, you want the ones from a TX1 taxi. On a Chimaera (Griff the same?), the n/s passenger one on a taxi fits the TVR driver's door. They are handed by the way the gearing mechanism is fitted. The part number is on them:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LONDON-TAXIS-LTI-TX1-TX...f:0

The same is used in a Ferrari Mondial and there is a massive 'tax' on the prices of what are actually just Bosch motors. I was tempted to stock up on them but TVR Parts do new ones for £85 + VAT:

https://tvr-parts.com/tvr-parts/part-details/tvr-m...

[Hedgehopper]

Loubaruch said:

When I first bought mine the glass refused to move until I removed a child's Ladybird book from inside the door.

It wasn't this book by any chance?



I will try rocking the windows before I delve into the wiring - thanks for suggestion.

[QBee]

My Chimaera driver's side window was sticking regularly. I had the speaker out anyway, and found that a smart tap with a small hammer on the body of the motor got it working again. Motor has now been replaced.

[Podie]

If you do take the door card off, can you take some photos of the inside please?

[Loubaruch]

Do wear some thin but tough gloves before delving into the doors, or have a ready supply of plasters! The rough fibre glass is quite efficient at attacking bare skin.

[Loubaruch]

Do wear some thin but tough gloves before delving into the doors, or have a ready supply of plasters! The rough fibre glass is quite efficient at attacking bare skin.

[QBee]

You can see the window motor and its connections simply by removing the speaker, by the way

[Jobster]

ianwayne said:

For 2nd hand ones, you want the ones from a TX1 taxi. On a Chimaera (Griff the same?), the n/s passenger one on a taxi fits the TVR driver's door. They are handed by the way the gearing mechanism is fitted. The part number is on them:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LONDON-TAXIS-LTI-TX1-TX...f:0

The same is used in a Ferrari Mondial and there is a massive 'tax' on the prices of what are actually just Bosch motors. I was tempted to stock up on them but TVR Parts do new ones for £85 + VAT:

https://tvr-parts.com/tvr-parts/part-details/tvr-m...

Thanks for this!

[Hedgehopper]

The fault turned out to be one of the switches, it worked upwards but not downwards.

Although it is said to be a Cavalier Mk 3 part I couldn't find anything like it on eBay so have gone to TVR Parts for an OE one.

Thanks every one for advice etc.

Alex.

[QBee]

Hedgehopper said:

The fault turned out to be one of the switches, it worked upwards but not downwards.

Although it is said to be a Cavalier Mk 3 part I couldn't find anything like it on eBay so have gone to TVR Parts for an OE one.

Thanks every one for advice etc.

Alex.

I had to replace one of mine recently - I think the replacement was a Corsa or Astra part.