The rise in Fake ULEZ free cars

[sunnyb13]

going on autotrader, there seems to be a lot of diesel cars that are "ULEZ free" which whilst going on the tfl website do appear to be ULEZ free, but common sense would dictate that these are not EURO 6, but rather EURO 5/4. All other cars same year same model etc aren't ulez compliant so why are these random ones compliant?

Examples include

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202301073... (2011 3.0 Diesel Range Rover Sport)

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202208198... (2012 Porsche Cayenne Diesel)


https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202212272... XF Diesel 2012)

Edited by sunnyb13 on Friday 24th March 11:13

[anonymous-user]

The adverts actually all say Euro 5, I checked the Jaguar online and it is definitely not compliant.

Interestingly enough though, according to the TFL site the Range Rover and Porsche ARE compliant. No idea if that is right, or an error in their database.

[Chubbyross]

There’s certainly going to be a lot more of this happening, as well as cloning over the coming year.

[cologne2792]

Joey Deacon said:

The adverts actually all say Euro 5, I checked the Jaguar online and it is definitely not compliant.

Interestingly enough though, according to the TFL site the Range Rover and Porsche ARE compliant. No idea if that is right, or an error in their database.

Across many of the forums and FB groups this seems to be a problem. A whole host of cars that are 'officially' compliant that then in reality turn out not to be.

There also seem to be a number of modernish cars that are ULEZ Exempt rather than compliant.

Seems to be a need for clarity and joined up bureaucracy - although the latter two are probably mutually exclusive.

[FilH]

As far as I can work out. You need to see the log book, and check what the nox is ,if under 0.08g/km , then it doesnt matter what euro it is, by informing tfl with proof they should add it to be exempt from charge.


The whole Khan ULEZ thing is a mess. And hopefully will collapse and be binned, that both Khan and ULEZ

[clockworks]

An ad popped up on Facebook the other day, offering to make any car ULEZ compliant for a fee. Plenty of comments, consensus being it was someone working for TfL who would flag the car as disabled class.

[sunnyb13]

clockworks said:

An ad popped up on Facebook the other day, offering to make any car ULEZ compliant for a fee. Plenty of comments, consensus being it was someone working for TfL who would flag the car as disabled class.

Disabled tax class won't show up on the tfl website and will show a charge of £12.50.

[The Conflated Outlier]

FilH said:

The whole Khan ULEZ thing is a mess. And hopefully will collapse and be binned, that both Khan and ULEZ

Hope springs eternal!

[swamp]

Those cars are probably legit. Many pre-Euro 6 diesel cars actually meet the Euro 6 standards, and are therefore exempt from the ULEZ.

Buyers of early cars like these should check online with TFL and also check the figures on the V5C, before handing over any money.

[Bannock]

FilH said:

As far as I can work out. You need to see the log book, and check what the nox is ,if under 0.08g/km , then it doesnt matter what euro it is, by informing tfl with proof they should add it to be exempt from charge.


The whole Khan ULEZ thing is a mess. And hopefully will collapse and be binned, that both Khan and ULEZ

It is a mess. I believe my car complies to the nox requirements, because models with the same engine registered 4 months after mine are compliant by date. However, mine doesn't show compliant on the TFL search. And the V5 doesn't show a Euro status, nor a nox level. I contacted the manufacturer, they replied and said they want £75 for a Certificate of Conformity, but won't tell me if that will show the car complies to the requirements. So I have to pay up and take my chances.

[swisstoni]

Bannock said:

FilH said:

As far as I can work out. You need to see the log book, and check what the nox is ,if under 0.08g/km , then it doesnt matter what euro it is, by informing tfl with proof they should add it to be exempt from charge.


The whole Khan ULEZ thing is a mess. And hopefully will collapse and be binned, that both Khan and ULEZ

It is a mess. I believe my car complies to the nox requirements, because models with the same engine registered 4 months after mine are compliant by date. However, mine doesn't show compliant on the TFL search. And the V5 doesn't show a Euro status, nor a nox level. I contacted the manufacturer, they replied and said they want £75 for a Certificate of Conformity, but won't tell me if that will show the car complies to the requirements. So I have to pay up and take my chances.

That’s helpful of Toyota isn’t it?

[Jakg]

clockworks said:

An ad popped up on Facebook the other day, offering to make any car ULEZ compliant for a fee. Plenty of comments, consensus being it was someone working for TfL who would flag the car as disabled class.

I'm guessing this is just the new "ghost MOT" / "driving licence points removal" scam where you pay £xxx and get... nothing.

[BuzzBravado]

swisstoni said:

That’s helpful of Toyota isn’t it?

To be fair the car is 23 years old. How much resource do you expect Toyota to contribute this?

[swisstoni]

BuzzBravado said:

swisstoni said:

That’s helpful of Toyota isn’t it?

To be fair the car is 23 years old. How much resource do you expect Toyota to contribute this?

Tell him their data doesn’t show what he wants to know, rather than saying give us £75 and find out. That sort of thing.

[Bannock]

swisstoni said:

BuzzBravado said:

swisstoni said:

That’s helpful of Toyota isn’t it?

To be fair the car is 23 years old. How much resource do you expect Toyota to contribute this?

Tell him their data doesn’t show what he wants to know, rather than saying give us £75 and find out. That sort of thing.

Exactly, not too much to ask is it?

[James6112]

FilH said:

As far as I can work out. You need to see the log book, and check what the nox is ,if under 0.08g/km , then it doesnt matter what euro it is, by informing tfl with proof they should add it to be exempt from charge.


The whole Khan ULEZ thing is a mess. And hopefully will collapse and be binned, that both Khan and ULEZ

Why jump on Khan?
Similar schemes are in force in a number of UK cities. More to come. It’s only going to expand…
Might as well embrace it, get a compliant car when the time comes. Or pay as you go. A simple choice to make.

[123DWA]

Jakg said:

clockworks said:

An ad popped up on Facebook the other day, offering to make any car ULEZ compliant for a fee. Plenty of comments, consensus being it was someone working for TfL who would flag the car as disabled class.

I'm guessing this is just the new "ghost MOT" / "driving licence points removal" scam where you pay £xxx and get... nothing.

Its definitely happening, somebody who I know offered to make any car ULEZ compliant for £400. He showed me the before where it showed as non compliant and the after where it showed as compliant.

[FilH]

James6112 said:

FilH said:

As far as I can work out. You need to see the log book, and check what the nox is ,if under 0.08g/km , then it doesnt matter what euro it is, by informing tfl with proof they should add it to be exempt from charge.


The whole Khan ULEZ thing is a mess. And hopefully will collapse and be binned, that both Khan and ULEZ

Why jump on Khan?
Similar schemes are in force in a number of UK cities. More to come. It’s only going to expand…
Might as well embrace it, get a compliant car when the time comes. Or pay as you go. A simple choice to make.

Because hes just a horrible , nasty person , who when ever questioned on his actions, ignores, lies and generally has no idea how to respond to the otger memmbers of the gla and public.

Blokes a useless prick, simple as that IMO and im sure in many others.

[braddo]

Bannock said:

FilH said:

The whole Khan ULEZ thing is a mess. And hopefully will collapse and be binned, that both Khan and ULEZ

It is a mess.

No it isn't a mess. Not remotely.

If your vehicle pre-dates Euro 4 petrol or Euro 6 diesel, it's subject to the charge. Simple.

If your vehicle is older than that and you want to gain an exemption from ULEZ, you'll need to do some leg work. Not a mess.

Expecting Toyota to provide something free about a 23 year-old car and its emissions - unrealistic. Not a mess.

[pidsy]

Iirc the tv advert states “petrol cars over 16 years old”

One of mine is 22 years old and shows as compliant on the ULEZ site.

It’s nothing special- 1.8t.