A mad, bad Mini project

[Funk]

Well they're showing 3.7k Patreon supporters - even on the lowest tier of support (£2/mo) that's at least £7k/month (minus Patreon fees) from that alone. They're averaging just under 1m views per Project Binky video so chuck in ad revenue from YouTube on top and I'm sure it's a not-inconsiderable amount coming in monthly...

[Getragdogleg]

Funk said:

Well they're showing 3.7k Patreon supporters - even on the lowest tier of support (£2/mo) that's at least £7k/month (minus Patreon fees) from that alone. They're averaging just under 1m views per Project Binky video so chuck in ad revenue from YouTube on top and I'm sure it's a not-inconsiderable amount coming in monthly...

Crikey. I don't begrudge them any of it to be honest but at that sort of funding vids could perhaps be a bit more frequent. But, I don't know their personal circumstances so ill not be wielding a pitchfork.

[robemcdonald]

robemcdonald said:

annodomini2 said:

robemcdonald said:

Getragdogleg said:

Peanut Gallery said:

Acorn to Arebella employ an editor, they found editing was taking too long, so it is a mega job!

I have two people of similar age to their rear seat space testers, and can confirm that those size humans take a lot of time and energy, like a LOT.

Overall, a good Binky, brilliant details, really like the rear parcel shelf detail, I will await impatiently for the next episode!

I have three of those sized humans. It's put my big project car on hold for ten years now, I'm only just starting to think about getting on with it again.

How much a month are you getting from Patreon?

There may be other issues that have not been publicised, for personal reasons.

"Those who judge, do not understand. Those who understand, don't judge!" - Mark Twain.

If you feel that your Patreon is not worth it, that is your choice, but don't assume you have all the information.

Please explain where I have assumed anything?

Thanks in advance.

"Those who judge, do not understand. Those who understand, don't judge!" - Mark Twain.

Don't assume you have all the information.

[skwdenyer]

Funk said:

Well they're showing 3.7k Patreon supporters - even on the lowest tier of support (£2/mo) that's at least £7k/month (minus Patreon fees) from that alone. They're averaging just under 1m views per Project Binky video so chuck in ad revenue from YouTube on top and I'm sure it's a not-inconsiderable amount coming in monthly...

That’s £7k -8% -VAT = ~£5.3k. Those million-view videos probably bring in at most £1500k each.

That’s a nice level of revenue. But it doesn’t pay for all that much custom fabrication work, sadly, given the inevitable overheads.

[ChocolateFrog]

toastyhamster said:

Leo released "A day in the life" video last night, he said it was around 30 minutes of editing for 1 minute of video. His schedule would drive me nuts and I'd be getting an editor ASAP.

I hope Binky picks up the frequency again, one a year is a bit meh.

I saw that, weird coincidence.

[Peanut Gallery]

ChocolateFrog said:

toastyhamster said:

Leo released "A day in the life" video last night, he said it was around 30 minutes of editing for 1 minute of video. His schedule would drive me nuts and I'd be getting an editor ASAP.

I hope Binky picks up the frequency again, one a year is a bit meh.

I saw that, weird coincidence.

Just watched it, he says it is 1 hour editing to 1 minute, so a 30 minute vid takes 30 hours to edit. That's crazy.

[Megaflow]

Funk said:

Well they're showing 3.7k Patreon supporters - even on the lowest tier of support (£2/mo) that's at least £7k/month (minus Patreon fees) from that alone. They're averaging just under 1m views per Project Binky video so chuck in ad revenue from YouTube on top and I'm sure it's a not-inconsiderable amount coming in monthly...

I was one of the first supporters, before they had fixed pricing options, and it was in USD, I was paying them $5 a month.

[toastyhamster]

Peanut Gallery said:

ChocolateFrog said:

toastyhamster said:

Leo released "A day in the life" video last night, he said it was around 30 minutes of editing for 1 minute of video. His schedule would drive me nuts and I'd be getting an editor ASAP.

I hope Binky picks up the frequency again, one a year is a bit meh.

I saw that, weird coincidence.

Just watched it, he says it is 1 hour editing to 1 minute, so a 30 minute vid takes 30 hours to edit. That's crazy.

Opps, my bad memory, thanks for the correction. You can certainly see why RetroPower went the "uncut" route for their weekly releases, plus I assume one of their guys does the editing of the "in progress" shots for them.

[ChocolateFrog]

toastyhamster said:

Peanut Gallery said:

ChocolateFrog said:

toastyhamster said:

Leo released "A day in the life" video last night, he said it was around 30 minutes of editing for 1 minute of video. His schedule would drive me nuts and I'd be getting an editor ASAP.

I hope Binky picks up the frequency again, one a year is a bit meh.

I saw that, weird coincidence.

Just watched it, he says it is 1 hour editing to 1 minute, so a 30 minute vid takes 30 hours to edit. That's crazy.

Opps, my bad memory, thanks for the correction. You can certainly see why RetroPower went the "uncut" route for their weekly releases, plus I assume one of their guys does the editing of the "in progress" shots for them.

I assume someone like the guy who runs legitstreetcars on YT does minimal editing because he's able to get out a couple of hour long videos per week.

Suppose his stuff is a bit further towards the vlogging end of the spectrum.

[trixical]

BOM 4 months ago on their youtube community tab said:

We have discarded the original plan for episode 38 and come up with a whole new one that doesn't necessitate the finishing of the long-running instrument cluster insanity. That plan is in progress right now and a new video is in production. Many, many apologies for the delay; we know it's not been ideal.

Ben is hard at work editing videos that include our participation in the Silverstone Classic in the Tiga SC81 and we've filmed the first of a new series called BOM Customs, which is companion content for the BOM Classics series and features a quite astonishing RA40 Toyota Celica powered by a BMW M50 engine. There's oodles of new content lined up for as soon as episode 38 lands.

Megaflow said:

Not going to lie. I am more than a little disappointed. They have spent a year telling us what they have been working on and why the video was taking so long, and there was effectively none of that content in the video.

I feel like that video could have come along a lot sooner.

Very much this & says a lot that you're saying that as a (former) patreon who, I thought, get additional updates on whats happening. Their community post i've quoted above perhaps addresses the lack of what we were expecting in ep 38 (but also highlights my gripe that people generally don't read the stuff on the community tab, & many didn't see the filler Q&A vid on the 2nd channel or even knew about the 2nd channel)

Peanut Gallery said:

Acorn to Arebella employ an editor, they found editing was taking too long, so it is a mega job!

I thought they did have a camera guy/editor on board, certainly hes listed in the video descriptions of the BOM Classics episodes, Ben James, if hes only on the BOM classic/sideline content that seems a tad odd

leglessAlex said:

The end of the episode and what they say they've been doing for a good portion of the last 12 months makes me think there just HAS to be another episode hot on it's heels surely.

I'm pretty sure Rich has another job on the side (& doesn't live in shropshire), but still no excuse for so little progress in a year. the above post certainly implies a lot of stuff (though mostly not binky based) will now drop but i'm not holding my breath.

Getragdogleg said:

I envy those that have only just found Binky, they have a real treat of binge watching ahead.

I was directed to the series at the start of last year & i'm frustrated with this gap, if i'd known I would have spread it out to an episode a week (& still been annoyed at the lack of updates)

[leglessAlex]

trixical said:

BOM 4 months ago on their youtube community tab said:

We have discarded the original plan for episode 38 and come up with a whole new one that doesn't necessitate the finishing of the long-running instrument cluster insanity. That plan is in progress right now and a new video is in production. Many, many apologies for the delay; we know it's not been ideal.

Ben is hard at work editing videos that include our participation in the Silverstone Classic in the Tiga SC81 and we've filmed the first of a new series called BOM Customs, which is companion content for the BOM Classics series and features a quite astonishing RA40 Toyota Celica powered by a BMW M50 engine. There's oodles of new content lined up for as soon as episode 38 lands.

That's wild, a new series? Jesus Christ guys, just finish the escargarot! That thing was ace!

trixical said:

leglessAlex said:

The end of the episode and what they say they've been doing for a good portion of the last 12 months makes me think there just HAS to be another episode hot on it's heels surely.

I'm pretty sure Rich has another job on the side (& doesn't live in shropshire), but still no excuse for so little progress in a year. the above post certainly implies a lot of stuff (though mostly not binky based) will now drop but i'm not holding my breath.

Yeah, particularly as a good third of ep. 38 was them fitting stuff someone else had actually done for them. At the end of the day I guess I'm not a patron, so don't have any right at all to be annoyed about it. I'm just frustrated at the lack of progress compared to many other projects across YouTube.

[shirt]

Does seem like they have missed a bigger opportunity.

Binky was one of the first (for me) watchable car build YT’s. Informative, skilled, amusing and decent production values.

They just don’t seem to have capitalized on that whereas others have cribbed the format and built a career from it. They’ve also, gasp, finished their builds a loooong time ago!

[trixical]

leglessAlex said:

Yeah, particularly as a good third of ep. 38 was them fitting stuff someone else had actually done for them. At the end of the day I guess I'm not a patron, so don't have any right at all to be annoyed about it. I'm just frustrated at the lack of progress compared to many other projects across YouTube.

I sort of agree but as Shirt says they have missed an opportunity, they committed to doing it and putting it on youtube so on that basis some progress on a regular ish interval isn't an unreasonable expectation from those who have come across it. I'm not a patreon but also have a mini project that has been waiting on me to do work to it for multiple years which surely puts me much future in the not having any right to be annoyed about it camp

[Megaflow]

trixical said:

BOM 4 months ago on their youtube community tab said:

We have discarded the original plan for episode 38 and come up with a whole new one that doesn't necessitate the finishing of the long-running instrument cluster insanity. That plan is in progress right now and a new video is in production. Many, many apologies for the delay; we know it's not been ideal.

Ben is hard at work editing videos that include our participation in the Silverstone Classic in the Tiga SC81 and we've filmed the first of a new series called BOM Customs, which is companion content for the BOM Classics series and features a quite astonishing RA40 Toyota Celica powered by a BMW M50 engine. There's oodles of new content lined up for as soon as episode 38 lands.

I hadn't even seen that, so they had a change of plan for episode 38 that didn't require the instruments to be finished and that's what they came up with.

[Funk]

I guess for me it came down to not being happy to pay £24 for a year of nothing and then have a single 33-min video...

I'm a Patreon for others who charge per video such as Leo for Tally Ho which I'm more than happy to continue with. The Late Brake Show for example is per-month but Jonny produces a lot of great content very regularly.

I get that a project like Binky isn't always going to be a quick process but it's been slowing enormously as they seem to take on other things (Escargot, C1 etc) but those don't really interest me and the first Binky video was nine years ago now.

[donaldtherapist]

There's a new video on Youtube. A non-Binky one. Quell suprise

[Megaflow]

donaldtherapist said:

There's a new video on Youtube. A non-Binky one. Quell suprise

It's not new though, they raced that car at the Classic last year. It wasn't on the bill this year.

The last Patreon update I got before I stopped paying said we have episode 39 & 40 very shortly after 38 and a few other videos as well. 3 or 4 months down the line and we have got a video for a race they did last year.

Glad I am not paying them anymore, they are seriously taking the piss out of the Patreon's now.

[CooperS]

Megaflow said:

donaldtherapist said:

There's a new video on Youtube. A non-Binky one. Quell suprise

Glad I am not paying them anymore, they are seriously taking the piss out of the Patreon's now.

I think the sad thing is that due to the lack of any communication to the community (who they built over years) they’re in danager of ill will building up.

Tbh they aren’t a Mr Beast or KSI et al and I wonder if this series has had an all around positive impact on their business and therefore pissing off a small bunch of non customers will matter?? (going to guess not)

[Megaflow]

CooperS said:

I think the sad thing is that due to the lack of any communication to the community (who they built over years) they’re in danager of ill will building up.

Tbh they aren’t a Mr Beast or KSI et al and I wonder if this series has had an all around positive impact on their business and therefore pissing off a small bunch of non customers will matter?? (going to guess not)

Well, so that’s the thing. Until they got enough Patreon’s, it wasn’t their business, it was a weekend play thing. Then they got enough Patreon’s to quit their jobs and do YouTube full time, ironically the video output since that point has gone down the toilet.

[donaldtherapist]

So is there some secret Patreon only viewing portal on which one could see where the money went? Or is it just a scam now?