Solid front subframe mounts
Discussion
miniman said:
I could be persuaded to sell the black car as I fancy something more modern for Enduro like a Corsa 1.4SRi or a Pug 106 Rallye. For someone starting rallying the black car would be ideal. It's very well prepared and equipped and you could just take it out and do relatively well.
Aarrrghhhh! Don't say tempting things like that!
How much do you want for it???
I'll email the full spec to you together with an indication of price as we'e not suposed to do 'commercial' things on here.
I'll try to do it later today when I get home as I have to go to a meeting shortly.
Peter
I've just been asked to exhibit this black car at the International Historic Motorsport Show at the NEC the weekend after next. If anyone's interested it will be on the Motor Club of Wales stand together with Brian Dennis's 8-Port 1964 Cooper 'S'.
I will be there to help on the Sunday, that's the 27th.
In which case I had better get it cleaned and waxed!
Anyone else going to be there? We could take beer together!
Peter
I will be there to help on the Sunday, that's the 27th.
In which case I had better get it cleaned and waxed!
Anyone else going to be there? We could take beer together!
Peter
RickApple said:
Could anyone tell me the rough benefits of solid mounts? thanks!
Only benefit is handling, the steering rack is fitted to the shell and the subframe being rubber mounted moves about giving rise to power/bump steering, especially when big section tyres are used. Fitting solid subframe mounts helps out but in return gives you a harsh ride, not so good for a road car but I would certainly prefer the precision of solid mounts, as essentialy the mini is a fun car.
hope this helps.
Remember, all the early cars inc. Mk 1 Cooper 'S', etc, had solidly mounted front sub-frame. I remember the first time I drove a car with a rubber mounted front subframe I thought there was a problem with the steering or tracking, it just felt so vague. Then I bought a 1991 car for my wife to use about 6 years ago and had to change all the mounts for solid ones. It was really bad as one of the front rubber mountings had split. Even 'er indoors' noticed the difference in handling. It doesn't ceate as much extra vibration as you might expect actually, nothing like as much as an 'ultimate engine steady'puts into the bodyshell.
Go for it.
Go for it.
Cooperman said:
Remember, all the early cars inc. Mk 1 Cooper 'S', etc, had solidly mounted front sub-frame. I remember the first time I drove a car with a rubber mounted front subframe I thought there was a problem with the steering or tracking, it just felt so vague. Then I bought a 1991 car for my wife to use about 6 years ago and had to change all the mounts for solid ones. It was really bad as one of the front rubber mountings had split. Even 'er indoors' noticed the difference in handling. It doesn't ceate as much extra vibration as you might expect actually, nothing like as much as an 'ultimate engine steady'puts into the bodyshell.
Go for it.
We have modified a front subframe to accept the steering rack on a ERA mini some years ago, this cured the vague feel and improved the turn in but retained the comfort of the rubber mounts. Not a small job as the subframe has to come out for brackets to be welded on. It was a good mod for a road car
selbymsport said:
We have modified a front subframe to accept the steering rack on a ERA mini some years ago, this cured the vague feel and improved the turn in but retained the comfort of the rubber mounts. Not a small job as the subframe has to come out for brackets to be welded on. It was a good mod for a road car
How did you cope with the steering column/rack coupling? To correctly eningeer this would take a couple of universal joints in the column and some form of sliding joint to allow for all possible movements of the rack/subframe.
MR2Mike said:
We have modified a front subframe to accept the steering rack on a ERA mini some years ago, this cured the vague feel and improved the turn in but retained the comfort of the rubber mounts. Not a small job as the subframe has to come out for brackets to be welded on. It was a good mod for a road car
How did you cope with the steering column/rack coupling? To correctly eningeer this would take a couple of universal joints in the column and some form of sliding joint to allow for all possible movements of the rack/subframe.
Your right we did fit a universal joint to the lower end of the rack, and the bushing at the top end takes care of axial variation, on our Mini 7 cars we still use this method i.e. uni joint, as it enables the column to be better placed to the driver. its an easy mod if the weld is turned off the lower end of the column fixing, the split joint slides off with little effort revealing a splined end to the column ready for a u/J to be clamped as it is normally fixed to the rack, we have been using this system since 1995.
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