5 speed A-Series?

5 speed A-Series?

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Mini1976

18 posts

225 months

Saturday 22nd October 2005
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I've just been looking at the Suzuki Swift engine swap into a mini. Is this similar to the ones mentioned below? Also I saw someone had made a 4wd mini with the transmition and engine from a Suzuki. Is this a mod that is done in the uk? Are there any other ways of getting a 4wd mini and does anyone know about how they handle?

MR2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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love machine said:
No, putting a low boost blower on an A series produces more welly than most 2L engines.

Stu



Not so. A 20XE produces 155bhp, 150lbft, with stock injection and exhaust, closer to 170 with DCOEs and a decent exhaust. It's a heavy old lump though. The 1.6 B-series honda engine produces 168bhp, 116lbft in stock form, but more expensive to tune. Admittedly, both examples are in a fairly high state of tune in stock spec. but the majority of modern two litre engines push out at least 130bhp.

A Metro Turbo produces ~93bhp, 85lbft from it's 7psi boost. The other thing is gearboxes, even stock Metro Turbos ate gearboxes pretty quickly. Up the boost and the gearbox becomes a service item.

>> Edited by MR2Mike on Sunday 23 October 16:26

bu55iness

1 posts

192 months

Monday 26th May 2008
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I have an 'A' Series mini with a 5 speed box from mini spares, needs re-building as it spat a bearing does anyone know a good gearbox re-builder ?

Fatboy

7,984 posts

273 months

Tuesday 27th May 2008
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bu55iness said:
I have an 'A' Series mini with a 5 speed box from mini spares, needs re-building as it spat a bearing does anyone know a good gearbox re-builder ?
Don't know myself, but Cooperman is a Mini guru, and does a lot of competition, so may know someon if you PM him?

guru_1071

2,768 posts

235 months

Tuesday 27th May 2008
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bu55iness said:
I have an 'A' Series mini with a 5 speed box from mini spares, needs re-building as it spat a bearing does anyone know a good gearbox re-builder ?
you can return the gearbox to minispares and get it rebuilt by the same guy who builds them new. it takes a while and the cost is dependant on what else is worn or broken. - they are a faily strong thing - ive seen them cover 80 thou before needing a rebuild.

they are a very fiddly thing to strip if you have never done one before, i can let you have a set of self assembly instrructions if you want, but i wouldnt advise it - ive seen gearbox people acutually break the kits attempting to strip tham before

busta

Original Poster:

4,504 posts

234 months

Tuesday 27th May 2008
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Holy thread ressurection batman! This thread is 3 years old! The Metro in my original post has since died a death:

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...

FWDRacer

3,564 posts

225 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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annodomini2 said:
...rather than a K-series, crap engine!
Your talking a lot of uneducated crap my friend. A 3-layer head gasket and steel cylinder head dowels (removed as a cost down exercise by BMW!) and you have a superb 4-cylinder lump with great tuning potential. Just ask Caterhamwink

Fatboy

7,984 posts

273 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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FWDRacer said:
annodomini2 said:
...rather than a K-series, crap engine!
Your talking a lot of uneducated crap my friend. A 3-layer head gasket and steel cylinder head dowels (removed as a cost down exercise by BMW!) and you have a superb 4-cylinder lump with great tuning potential. Just ask Caterhamwink
Add in the relocated thermostat as per the freelander and you'll have fk-all issues from what I've heard.

annodomini2

6,867 posts

252 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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FWDRacer said:
annodomini2 said:
...rather than a K-series, crap engine!
Your talking a lot of uneducated crap my friend. A 3-layer head gasket and steel cylinder head dowels (removed as a cost down exercise by BMW!) and you have a superb 4-cylinder lump with great tuning potential. Just ask Caterhamwink
After 3 engines with problems ranging from but not limited to head gasket failures/ warped heads/blown ecus/shot VVC gear/blown con rods, I am not uneducated!

Yes there are mod's now to make them reliable, however you need to spend the time and money to modify them to be so.

Given they were produced for 13-14 years you would have thought they would have done something more about it sooner.

FWDRacer

3,564 posts

225 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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Problems on the K-series manifested themseleves when the engine went through cost down exercise (all manufacturers do this) which coincided with increase in displacement (1.6/1.8L)

You'll find that many early 1.4 K-series engines have in mileage terms, gone to moon and back, with no issues. There is no doubt that later big displacement K-Series motors need fettling, but with h/gasket, dowels and the new T-stat (Cheers F/boy) to stop the cooling system and head being thermally shocked when opened, they are as good as any other manufacturers 4-pot proposition and in many cases, light years better. And they are light. This latter fact is perhaps the most important to this Mini thread.

tinks v8S

2,152 posts

209 months

Thursday 29th May 2008
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about 100 were made to standard mini
SPORT 5
gearboxes 5 speed are jack knights £3000

i have a sport 5 gearbox as been rebuilt a couple of times
as it kept jumping out of 5th and would not go in reverse


jdd_the_one

1 posts

191 months

Monday 2nd June 2008
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Which fool said the K-series was crap.. its an ace engine, u just need to use a good headgasket and some sealant..wink

PJR

2,616 posts

213 months

Thursday 5th June 2008
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busta said:
Holy thread ressurection batman! This thread is 3 years old! The Metro in my original post has since died a death:

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...
And to make matters worse, it wasn't even an A series metro anyway?? But a K series one which would have had a 5 speed box from the factory. The engines and gearboxes are not even closely related.

Anyway, Both my Mini's have 5 speed boxes. One is a Mini Spares box (Built by Tran-X i believe?) This box has an injected 1380 lump sat on top of it, and I never had any problems with it (When I used the car that is!). The only bummer was that reverse was fiddly to select. I don't know if they all do that however.
The other mini (1330 turbo) has a 5 speed Jack Knight straight cut synchro box.

Mini sport also made 5 speed boxes (Maybe they still do). They were not very good as I remember.. A friend of mine went through 5 of them in less than a year. That was a while ago mind, so perhaps they got their act together by now. Mini Spares and Jack Knight always seemed to be the ones to go for. Although neither are cheap. KAD boxes were race use only, no?

P,

busta

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4,504 posts

234 months

Thursday 5th June 2008
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PJR said:
busta said:
Holy thread ressurection batman! This thread is 3 years old! The Metro in my original post has since died a death:

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...
And to make matters worse, it wasn't even an A series metro anyway?? But a K series one which would have had a 5 speed box from the factory. The engines and gearboxes are not even closely related.
Yeah we worked that bit out 3 years ago as well smile