New Range Rover 4.4
Discussion
Hi, is anybody driving the new Range Rover ? I am lucky enough to be picking mine up this week following a brief test drive in the demo, To be honest it didnt feel that different from my TDV8 2006 but it was time to upgrade anyway.
Apparently the fuel consumption is better with the new engine with more power on hand although to me the power delivery seemed very much the same, not that its all about power as usual the comfort of the RR is still GREAT !
Apparently the fuel consumption is better with the new engine with more power on hand although to me the power delivery seemed very much the same, not that its all about power as usual the comfort of the RR is still GREAT !
Have driven both the 3.6 & 4.4 lots.
IMO - The 8spd box is much better suited than the 6spd and the 4.4 gives it the extra grunt it needs for such a big car. As for fuel consumption, the only time I checked, I managed to get an average of just under 31mpg on a run from Wilts to Hereford via Heathrow...
M
IMO - The 8spd box is much better suited than the 6spd and the 4.4 gives it the extra grunt it needs for such a big car. As for fuel consumption, the only time I checked, I managed to get an average of just under 31mpg on a run from Wilts to Hereford via Heathrow...
M
Hi there
I have a 4.4, and can only say that i find it very smooth - sometimes there can be a few too many gear chnages, but it is so smooth you hardly notice, you can just hear the change in engine note.
Whilst I have only covered 2500 miles in it, I have only been able to average 25-26 mpg and that is with a 60 mile commute each day, 80% of which is on the motorway.
It is a lovely car - although, a friend has a RRS with a 3.6 TDV8 and that 'sounds' a lot nicer than the 4.4 - the 4.4 doesn't seem to have the same V8 burble - does anyone know why this may be?
I have a 4.4, and can only say that i find it very smooth - sometimes there can be a few too many gear chnages, but it is so smooth you hardly notice, you can just hear the change in engine note.
Whilst I have only covered 2500 miles in it, I have only been able to average 25-26 mpg and that is with a 60 mile commute each day, 80% of which is on the motorway.
It is a lovely car - although, a friend has a RRS with a 3.6 TDV8 and that 'sounds' a lot nicer than the 4.4 - the 4.4 doesn't seem to have the same V8 burble - does anyone know why this may be?
Just got mine - moved from a 4.2S/C petrol. I was worried that I'd miss the power of the 4.2 but actually I'm not really noticing anything in it. A friend who made the move form the 4.2 to the 3.6 said I would find it slow pulling out of junctions in comparison but other than perhaps a moment more hesitation as the turbo spools up, I really don't feel it.
8 speed box is silky smooth. The only thing I don't like is the rotary gear knob. Completely pointless gimmick.
8 speed box is silky smooth. The only thing I don't like is the rotary gear knob. Completely pointless gimmick.
GallardoOwner said:
Hi, is anybody driving the new Range Rover ? I am lucky enough to be picking mine up this week following a brief test drive in the demo, To be honest it didnt feel that different from my TDV8 2006 but it was time to upgrade anyway.
Apparently the fuel consumption is better with the new engine with more power on hand although to me the power delivery seemed very much the same, not that its all about power as usual the comfort of the RR is still GREAT !
Recently sold a 2007 TDV8 which was remapped and got a new 4.4TdV8 to me the difference is immediately noticeable much more power and a smoother drive with the gear box. Apparently the fuel consumption is better with the new engine with more power on hand although to me the power delivery seemed very much the same, not that its all about power as usual the comfort of the RR is still GREAT !
I would definitely say there have been some suspension improvements too as the drive is much smoother.
The brakes are a great improvement over the 2010 model too as we have one of those too and I feel that the brakes need more breaking power.
Haven't done enough miles yet to give a true mileage and mpg opinion but the inhaled computer seems to be showing over 26mpg
23 MPG for a diesel car is rubbish, better to buy a heavily discounted 5.0 Autobiography Supercharged which will do 20-22 MPG (admittedly on motorway runs) and be far quieter when in town, quicker, more responsive, cheaper to fill up and without the hideous gear selector that the diesels now have. You also get a much higher spec car for about the same cost as a Vogue SE TDV8
Unless you are driving 20,000+ miles each year, petrol is the better choice.
Unless you are driving 20,000+ miles each year, petrol is the better choice.
orbtar said:
23 MPG for a diesel car is rubbish, better to buy a heavily discounted 5.0 Autobiography Supercharged which will do 20-22 MPG (admittedly on motorway runs) and be far quieter when in town, quicker, more responsive, cheaper to fill up and without the hideous gear selector that the diesels now have. You also get a much higher spec car for about the same cost as a Vogue SE TDV8
Unless you are driving 20,000+ miles each year, petrol is the better choice.
Let us try a like-for-like comparison. Unless you are driving 20,000+ miles each year, petrol is the better choice.
If someone is getting 23MPG out of the 4.4TDV8, that would suggest to me that their driving style would struggle to get the Supercharger much above the low teens.
M
On the 4.4 vs 5.0 debate here is my thought process.
I came out of a 4.2S/C Petrol, in which I got 19mpg (which is good). I do c 7-8,000 miles per year in the Rangie. So there would be little saving on the fuel and that would be eaten up by the greater cost of diesel.
However, two things stopped me. Firstly, the amount of time one spends in the petrol station. A petrol one will take £120 of fuel from empty. It takes a looooong time to put that in and you need to do that every 350miles. I'm hoping I can get almost another 100 miles out of a tank. 25% less time on a forecourt = win. Secondly, resale is easier. there will always be a demand for the diesel. Petrol is more reliant on someone coming along who doesn't care about the cost/time.
I suppose I also ought to admit that using 25% less fuel does make me feel I'm at least trying to preserve the planet's scarce resources a tiny bit longer too. Not that I feel green or anything.
I'm currently getting 24mpg out of the 4.4TDV8. However, this is early days (two weeks) - lots of short journeys and some shoot days when I have been very gentle offroading (in reality driving on muddy tracks and fields rather than tackling boulders). I think I'd have achieved 17ish under similar conditions in the petrol. I am hoping that the longer term average is somewhere north of 25mpg. The 5.0 would be better than the 4.2 so I am guessing that I would have made just north of 20mpg.
I came out of a 4.2S/C Petrol, in which I got 19mpg (which is good). I do c 7-8,000 miles per year in the Rangie. So there would be little saving on the fuel and that would be eaten up by the greater cost of diesel.
However, two things stopped me. Firstly, the amount of time one spends in the petrol station. A petrol one will take £120 of fuel from empty. It takes a looooong time to put that in and you need to do that every 350miles. I'm hoping I can get almost another 100 miles out of a tank. 25% less time on a forecourt = win. Secondly, resale is easier. there will always be a demand for the diesel. Petrol is more reliant on someone coming along who doesn't care about the cost/time.
I suppose I also ought to admit that using 25% less fuel does make me feel I'm at least trying to preserve the planet's scarce resources a tiny bit longer too. Not that I feel green or anything.
I'm currently getting 24mpg out of the 4.4TDV8. However, this is early days (two weeks) - lots of short journeys and some shoot days when I have been very gentle offroading (in reality driving on muddy tracks and fields rather than tackling boulders). I think I'd have achieved 17ish under similar conditions in the petrol. I am hoping that the longer term average is somewhere north of 25mpg. The 5.0 would be better than the 4.2 so I am guessing that I would have made just north of 20mpg.
Bish said:
The 4.4 is streets ahead of the 3.6 in terms of refinement I reckon.
he power delivery is effortless and the 8 speed box is sublime.
I had a remapped 3.6 TDV8 and the standard 4.4 feels much better in my opinion.
Agreed, it's more relaxing to drive. Adaptive dampers also sharpen the handling up and there's less body roll, at the expense of a slightly firmer ride (I think).he power delivery is effortless and the 8 speed box is sublime.
I had a remapped 3.6 TDV8 and the standard 4.4 feels much better in my opinion.
JE remap for the 4.4 TDV8 is out ...
Not on the website yet, don't think any numbers have been published - I assume torque will be limited by gearbox capacity.
JE blog said:
Now you can have your 4.4 litre TDV8 made even more powerful and, especially, torquey
http://siskindriver.wordpress.com/2012/01/08/dakar...Edited by Trommel on Tuesday 10th January 20:41
Trommel said:
No on the website yet, don't think any numbers have been published - I assume torque will be limited by gearbox capacity.
Thanks Trommel, does that mean they have finally "cracked" the ecu, or is it a piggy back. Will give them a call tomorrow regardless.JE blog said:
Now you can have your 4.4 litre TDV8 made even more powerful and, especially, torquey
http://siskindriver.wordpress.com/2012/01/08/dakar...If buying new, the deals are much better on petrol and The savings outweigh any extra fuel costs. My last two 5.0 Autobiography's have cost £73k when Vogue SE TDV8 with lower specification are £72k. Petrol is quite a bit cheaper than diesel so unless driving massive mileages the petrol will be the better bet and the cars are fairly easy to sell (if priced sensibly) as there is always demand for them in London.
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