Defender TD5 Problems

Defender TD5 Problems

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P I Staker

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3,308 posts

156 months

Saturday 4th February 2012
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52' Plate Defender 110 TD5. Five or six times now whilst driving the throttle input has started to cut in and out, then the check engine light will come on and there will be no throttle in put at all regardless of what you do with the pedal.

In the past once the engine has been turned off and restarted it seems fine again, but today this wasn't the case and I had to drive it back on idle (Only backroads and managed to get in to 4th).

Whilst stationary if I move the throttle very slowly I can get the engine to rev up but any pedal movement of any speed will cause the throttle to cut and the engine light to come on.

We have read the codes and among many for the unfitted aircon and the unfitted ABS system there are three of interest:

'Driver demand 1
out of range
fault. Logged'

'Faults detected
with driver
demand. Logged'

'Can error fault
.Currently
Active'

Any ideas?

sunbeam alpine

6,945 posts

188 months

Saturday 4th February 2012
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Do you know whether it has had the throttle cable changed? The cable runs into the underside of the cylinder head, and you can get oil running down the cable and giving all sorts of weirdness. Most have been replaced (I thought it was a safety recall but am not 100% sure) with a redesigned version so this can't happen again.

P I Staker

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Saturday 4th February 2012
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sunbeam alpine said:
Do you know whether it has had the throttle cable changed? The cable runs into the underside of the cylinder head, and you can get oil running down the cable and giving all sorts of weirdness. Most have been replaced (I thought it was a safety recall but am not 100% sure) with a redesigned version so this can't happen again.
Do you mean the injector loom? That was changed recently for exactly the problem you described. frown

sunbeam alpine

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188 months

Saturday 4th February 2012
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P I Staker said:
sunbeam alpine said:
Do you know whether it has had the throttle cable changed? The cable runs into the underside of the cylinder head, and you can get oil running down the cable and giving all sorts of weirdness. Most have been replaced (I thought it was a safety recall but am not 100% sure) with a redesigned version so this can't happen again.
Do you mean the injector loom? That was changed recently for exactly the problem you described. frown
That's what I meant. You could maybe check the connections to the ECU and also the throttle pedal - they don't like getting wet. Maybe try unpluggin the MAF - it will then drop back to safe settings, but should run OK, maybe a bit down on power.

Has the fuel filter been checked/changed? Can you hear the fuel pump running when you turn the key?

P I Staker

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Saturday 4th February 2012
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sunbeam alpine said:
That's what I meant. You could maybe check the connections to the ECU and also the throttle pedal - they don't like getting wet. Maybe try unpluggin the MAF - it will then drop back to safe settings, but should run OK, maybe a bit down on power.

Has the fuel filter been checked/changed? Can you hear the fuel pump running when you turn the key?
Filter was changed very recently, and I think the fuel pump is fine.

Ill have a look at the connections, thanks.

P I Staker

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Saturday 4th February 2012
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The fault has now gone, which is good but who knows when it will be back. banghead

All the connections seem ok, not wet. Although there is dampness in the bottom of the seat box because there is no sealant in the panel gap. rolleyes

podrick

32 posts

159 months

Saturday 4th February 2012
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Could be a faulty accelerator pedal,
If you have access to rovercom or similar you can plug in and see if you are getting good smooth feedback from the pedal

P I Staker

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Saturday 4th February 2012
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podrick said:
Could be a faulty accelerator pedal,
If you have access to rovercom or similar you can plug in and see if you are getting good smooth feedback from the pedal
Unfortunately I don't. frown

topsparks

1,202 posts

247 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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Sounds like the throttle pedal,had the same trouble with mine

P I Staker

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Sunday 5th February 2012
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topsparks said:
Sounds like the throttle pedal,had the same trouble with mine
Yeah, I think I'm going to replace it and hope for the best.

lost in espace

6,161 posts

207 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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Can i make a suggestion. Buy a nanocom off ebay diagnose your problem and then sell it for what you pay.

P I Staker

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lost in espace said:
Can i make a suggestion. Buy a nanocom off ebay diagnose your problem and then sell it for what you pay.
Seems a hassle, theres none on Ebay and according to the website they are 300Euro new. eek

camel_landy

4,899 posts

183 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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TD5 is fly-by-wire...

I'd also suggest you look at the accelerator peddle.

M

P I Staker

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Sunday 5th February 2012
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camel_landy said:
TD5 is fly-by-wire...

I'd also suggest you look at the accelerator peddle.

M
It is indeed, if it wasn't this would be a whole lot simpler. banghead


As said I think im going to change it and hope that sorts it out.