Discovery Sport
Discussion
We have a defender as a daily, and when it breaks down (every-other-daily) we get given a courtesy car from LR. Last time it was a Disco Sport....I was plagued with that thing for over a month. Honestly, as someone who voluntarily drives something with all of the finess of an agricultural tractor around London for pleasure, the Disco Sport was worse in every conceivable way for me. It's one redeeming feauture was the autopark - which is absolutely essential seeing as you can't see the corners of the bloody thing when you are sat in it for love nor money. I'm of average height and build, and drive a very low sports car and a proper RRS on occasion too, so am a reasonable judge of size etc, but the disco sport is a joke. The sat nav is awful, the boot isnt big enough for our medium sized dog, the rearmost seats wouldn't ever fit our children if we had any because my other half is quite tall, the front seats don't adjust to JUST THE RIGHT PLACE. They are alwasy a bit off, and the driving position is offset. The engine is gutless. It has FLAPPY PADDLE TRANSMISSION! WHY?!?!?! The gearbox tries to kill you, and the cruise control took me 29 days to figure out how to use, and yes I f
kING GOOGLED IT!
In short, I'd rather walk thanks! Go buy a proper Range Rover.
kING GOOGLED IT!In short, I'd rather walk thanks! Go buy a proper Range Rover.
Jem0911 said:
I am Testing a DS next week.
I took the Mercedes GLC out this week but its too small and the ride was crashy, may have been the huge gangster rims, but its not for me.
I don't know why European SUV makers can't get this right - surely what most people want from an SUV is something that's quiet, comfortable, rides well and is well equipped.I took the Mercedes GLC out this week but its too small and the ride was crashy, may have been the huge gangster rims, but its not for me.
I got a 2017 model GMC Acadia when in the US recently. GMC have made it a bit smaller recently and describe it as mid-size, but it's a 7 seater and a similar size to an XC90. OK, it's not a prestige marque, but it more than met the key points above and they cost about £20K.
fossilfuelled said:
We have a defender as a daily, and when it breaks down (every-other-daily) we get given a courtesy car from LR. Last time it was a Disco Sport....I was plagued with that thing for over a month. Honestly, as someone who voluntarily drives something with all of the finess of an agricultural tractor around London for pleasure, the Disco Sport was worse in every conceivable way for me. It's one redeeming feauture was the autopark - which is absolutely essential seeing as you can't see the corners of the bloody thing when you are sat in it for love nor money. I'm of average height and build, and drive a very low sports car and a proper RRS on occasion too, so am a reasonable judge of size etc, but the disco sport is a joke. The sat nav is awful, the boot isnt big enough for our medium sized dog, the rearmost seats wouldn't ever fit our children if we had any because my other half is quite tall, the front seats don't adjust to JUST THE RIGHT PLACE. They are alwasy a bit off, and the driving position is offset. The engine is gutless. It has FLAPPY PADDLE TRANSMISSION! WHY?!?!?! The gearbox tries to kill you, and the cruise control took me 29 days to figure out how to use, and yes I fkING GOOGLED IT!
In short, I'd rather walk thanks! Go buy a proper Range Rover.
Agree with everything you say. However the flappy paddles are used when you do serious off - road work. Not that many of these ever will!kING GOOGLED IT!In short, I'd rather walk thanks! Go buy a proper Range Rover.
I had one on hire in Ireland for a few days in the summer (hertz equiavelent to a full size Disco...)
I'm a bit perplexed as I did not find it that bad. The boot easily fitted my full size suitcase. Therefore our Dalmation would fit. Cruise worked the same as any other car. I can't remember the gearbox trying to kill me. I did find it a little gutless...
I'm a bit perplexed as I did not find it that bad. The boot easily fitted my full size suitcase. Therefore our Dalmation would fit. Cruise worked the same as any other car. I can't remember the gearbox trying to kill me. I did find it a little gutless...
surveyor said:
I'm a bit perplexed as I did not find it that bad.
Mrs SB has a manual one so won't comment on gearbox.Certainly not gutless, but not a Macan either. Sat nav is... interesting... let's say. Likes stupidly small lanes and avoids obvious routes regardless of settings. And touchscreen is touchscreen
There are a range of different options for seats and the adjustability and comfort varies hugely. We went for electric seats on an SE Tech and the rake isn't adjustable which can be - literally - a real pain after an hours driving if you haven't got the settings 'just so'.
Can't see why you're complaining about the rear seats though? Third row are obviously kids only but there's bags of room in the front two rows. And I'm 6'3".
Rear visibility is indeed crap, in common with far too many modern cars. Camera essential!
silentbrown said:
surveyor said:
I'm a bit perplexed as I did not find it that bad.
Mrs SB has a manual one so won't comment on gearbox.Certainly not gutless, but not a Macan either. Sat nav is... interesting... let's say. Likes stupidly small lanes and avoids obvious routes regardless of settings. And touchscreen is touchscreen
There are a range of different options for seats and the adjustability and comfort varies hugely. We went for electric seats on an SE Tech and the rake isn't adjustable which can be - literally - a real pain after an hours driving if you haven't got the settings 'just so'.
Can't see why you're complaining about the rear seats though? Third row are obviously kids only but there's bags of room in the front two rows. And I'm 6'3".
Rear visibility is indeed crap, in common with far too many modern cars. Camera essential!
The comment about the cruise control is the most bizarre I have ever read on PH.
I lost interest when he started using block capitals.
He clearly measures a cars success by his own criteria. That's fair enough. Being a DS owner I can tell you a few things I dislike or would rather change about the car. None of his criticisms ring true with me.
The cruse control comments puzzle me. It's operation seems Pretty simple and like most other systems on other cars.
He clearly measures a cars success by his own criteria. That's fair enough. Being a DS owner I can tell you a few things I dislike or would rather change about the car. None of his criticisms ring true with me.
The cruse control comments puzzle me. It's operation seems Pretty simple and like most other systems on other cars.
Edited by wildcat45 on Sunday 4th December 20:33
Yeah fair enough, I might've been a bit overly harsh. By gearbox trying to kill me, I meant it had too many gears and was a little unpredictable about when it would change up or down, or lockdown and a few days in, it actually threw up a gearbox error that meant I had to pull over on a national speed limit country road, restart the car a couple of times before it did what it was supposed to and go into D. Also never figured out how to get it to go back into D after using the paddles, and found the only way to be to go into S and then back to D.
With regards to the cruise, it's so simple to engage (just press the plus button) that I spent many a bored motorway drive looking for a stalk, or a start cruise button or mode in the menu until I realised you just press the plus and it gets on with it. However I really didn't find it intuitive to press a button which you'd think increased the cruise speed, to engage the cruise.
Our dog deffo didn't fit comfortably in the boot without putting row three down and getting rid of the boot cover (which you can't stash in the car very easily). But she's a spoilt old hound who likes to stretch out and roll around...Not a deal breaker I suppose I'm nitpicking.
We had the "hse luxury" trim which is an embarrassing thing to have written on the back of a car but there were quite a few good points. The leather was lovely with cooled and heated seats, the full panoramic sunroof was really bright, and the updated stereo was quite a hoot. Especially as road and tyre noise was so minimal at 70mph. Also I got 30mpg or so, which coming from a defender is around twice as economical, so long trips were noticeably friendlier on the wallet. I gues the rear doors are nice and big and open up high on the car. Makes it easy to reach in. They also split fold and move fore and aft a decent amount. Load space was excellent when everything was folded out of the way.
Going to drive a macan and a cayenne in the next few weeks so I'm sure I can be scathing about those too if anyone wants. I might be on my period again then too if you are lucky
With regards to the cruise, it's so simple to engage (just press the plus button) that I spent many a bored motorway drive looking for a stalk, or a start cruise button or mode in the menu until I realised you just press the plus and it gets on with it. However I really didn't find it intuitive to press a button which you'd think increased the cruise speed, to engage the cruise.
Our dog deffo didn't fit comfortably in the boot without putting row three down and getting rid of the boot cover (which you can't stash in the car very easily). But she's a spoilt old hound who likes to stretch out and roll around...Not a deal breaker I suppose I'm nitpicking.
We had the "hse luxury" trim which is an embarrassing thing to have written on the back of a car but there were quite a few good points. The leather was lovely with cooled and heated seats, the full panoramic sunroof was really bright, and the updated stereo was quite a hoot. Especially as road and tyre noise was so minimal at 70mph. Also I got 30mpg or so, which coming from a defender is around twice as economical, so long trips were noticeably friendlier on the wallet. I gues the rear doors are nice and big and open up high on the car. Makes it easy to reach in. They also split fold and move fore and aft a decent amount. Load space was excellent when everything was folded out of the way.
Going to drive a macan and a cayenne in the next few weeks so I'm sure I can be scathing about those too if anyone wants. I might be on my period again then too if you are lucky
I had one for a week whilst mine was in for repairs. On first glance it all looks very impressive but the whole package seems to be a thin vaneer to me.
Gutless motor, rubbish economy (worse than my 4.4 Sdv8!), a few squeeks and rattles denoting a flimsy build. Feels all a bit overpriced Freelander!
Gutless motor, rubbish economy (worse than my 4.4 Sdv8!), a few squeeks and rattles denoting a flimsy build. Feels all a bit overpriced Freelander!
I've been reading this thread for a few days.....
After 16 years of having three V8 engine Jaguars in succession, last Friday changed my Jaguar XF 5.0 V8 Portfolio for a Land Rover Discovery Sport 2.2 SD4 HSE Luxury. The sole reason for the change is because the wife, after three hip operations, has found the XF uncomfortable after about an hour or so, so longish journeys have become difficult for her. Recently when the XF was being serviced I had a Defender 4 as a loan car. Wife found it to be amazingly comfortable so from then on I've been under attack to change. She understands that the Defender 4 is really not an appropriate vehicle for the two of us. They also seem to have high residual values and as I was not in the market for a brand new car, a Defender 4 was ruled out.
Our son had a Range Rover for many years and a good friend has a Freelander 2. Consequently, I've been a RR/LR fan for a while. I'd love a RR but there's just the two of us, we're retired and frankly it's too large and an expensive purchase.
So, the Discovery Sport has an appeal. It's in the RR/LR stable, it has the seating that the wife seems to need, it's not a big vehicle, it was affordable, and it was in the colour combination and options etc that I would specify if buying new. The deal was inevitable.
So far after four days and around 200 miles of variable driving the car seems good. It is comfortable, I don't think the driving position is offset as said above, it is quiet, and the power is OK, even though it's 195 BHP less than the Jaguar XF! I doubt if I'll ever have the third row seats up so the boot area is really good. I expected the 9 gears to be forever hunting but I've not experience that at all. I read about the parking difficulties but so far I've not needed to get it into a tight space, although getting into the garage is a close thing due to the width including mirrors.
So far the only issues I'm having is that the media/satnav etc screen is quite a stretch to operate when driving, perhaps dangerously so, and I haven't been able to find a way of disabling the child proof door locks even after consulting the online digital handbook.
The running costs will be a lot less that the XF.
I always plan to keep cars for maybe 10 years. I would have done so with the XF had the wife found it more comfortable. I'm hoping the Discovery Sport will be a long-termer.
R.
After 16 years of having three V8 engine Jaguars in succession, last Friday changed my Jaguar XF 5.0 V8 Portfolio for a Land Rover Discovery Sport 2.2 SD4 HSE Luxury. The sole reason for the change is because the wife, after three hip operations, has found the XF uncomfortable after about an hour or so, so longish journeys have become difficult for her. Recently when the XF was being serviced I had a Defender 4 as a loan car. Wife found it to be amazingly comfortable so from then on I've been under attack to change. She understands that the Defender 4 is really not an appropriate vehicle for the two of us. They also seem to have high residual values and as I was not in the market for a brand new car, a Defender 4 was ruled out.
Our son had a Range Rover for many years and a good friend has a Freelander 2. Consequently, I've been a RR/LR fan for a while. I'd love a RR but there's just the two of us, we're retired and frankly it's too large and an expensive purchase.
So, the Discovery Sport has an appeal. It's in the RR/LR stable, it has the seating that the wife seems to need, it's not a big vehicle, it was affordable, and it was in the colour combination and options etc that I would specify if buying new. The deal was inevitable.
So far after four days and around 200 miles of variable driving the car seems good. It is comfortable, I don't think the driving position is offset as said above, it is quiet, and the power is OK, even though it's 195 BHP less than the Jaguar XF! I doubt if I'll ever have the third row seats up so the boot area is really good. I expected the 9 gears to be forever hunting but I've not experience that at all. I read about the parking difficulties but so far I've not needed to get it into a tight space, although getting into the garage is a close thing due to the width including mirrors.
So far the only issues I'm having is that the media/satnav etc screen is quite a stretch to operate when driving, perhaps dangerously so, and I haven't been able to find a way of disabling the child proof door locks even after consulting the online digital handbook.
The running costs will be a lot less that the XF.
I always plan to keep cars for maybe 10 years. I would have done so with the XF had the wife found it more comfortable. I'm hoping the Discovery Sport will be a long-termer.
R.
The Leaper said:
I've been reading this thread for a few days.....
After 16 years of having three V8 engine Jaguars in succession, last Friday changed my Jaguar XF 5.0 V8 Portfolio for a Land Rover Discovery Sport 2.2 SD4 HSE Luxury. The sole reason for the change is because the wife, after three hip operations, has found the XF uncomfortable after about an hour or so, so longish journeys have become difficult for her. Recently when the XF was being serviced I had a Defender 4 as a loan car. Wife found it to be amazingly comfortable so from then on I've been under attack to change. She understands that the Defender 4 is really not an appropriate vehicle for the two of us. They also seem to have high residual values and as I was not in the market for a brand new car, a Defender 4 was ruled out.
Our son had a Range Rover for many years and a good friend has a Freelander 2. Consequently, I've been a RR/LR fan for a while. I'd love a RR but there's just the two of us, we're retired and frankly it's too large and an expensive purchase.
Child locks interlocked with rear electric window switches maybe?
So, the Discovery Sport has an appeal. It's in the RR/LR stable, it has the seating that the wife seems to need, it's not a big vehicle, it was affordable, and it was in the colour combination and options etc that I would specify if buying new. The deal was inevitable.
So far after four days and around 200 miles of variable driving the car seems good. It is comfortable, I don't think the driving position is offset as said above, it is quiet, and the power is OK, even though it's 195 BHP less than the Jaguar XF! I doubt if I'll ever have the third row seats up so the boot area is really good. I expected the 9 gears to be forever hunting but I've not experience that at all. I read about the parking difficulties but so far I've not needed to get it into a tight space, although getting into the garage is a close thing due to the width including mirrors.
So far the only issues I'm having is that the media/satnav etc screen is quite a stretch to operate when driving, perhaps dangerously so, and I haven't been able to find a way of disabling the child proof door locks even after consulting the online digital handbook.
The running costs will be a lot less that the XF.
I always plan to keep cars for maybe 10 years. I would have done so with the XF had the wife found it more comfortable. I'm hoping the Discovery Sport will be a long-termer.
R.
After 16 years of having three V8 engine Jaguars in succession, last Friday changed my Jaguar XF 5.0 V8 Portfolio for a Land Rover Discovery Sport 2.2 SD4 HSE Luxury. The sole reason for the change is because the wife, after three hip operations, has found the XF uncomfortable after about an hour or so, so longish journeys have become difficult for her. Recently when the XF was being serviced I had a Defender 4 as a loan car. Wife found it to be amazingly comfortable so from then on I've been under attack to change. She understands that the Defender 4 is really not an appropriate vehicle for the two of us. They also seem to have high residual values and as I was not in the market for a brand new car, a Defender 4 was ruled out.
Our son had a Range Rover for many years and a good friend has a Freelander 2. Consequently, I've been a RR/LR fan for a while. I'd love a RR but there's just the two of us, we're retired and frankly it's too large and an expensive purchase.
Child locks interlocked with rear electric window switches maybe?
So, the Discovery Sport has an appeal. It's in the RR/LR stable, it has the seating that the wife seems to need, it's not a big vehicle, it was affordable, and it was in the colour combination and options etc that I would specify if buying new. The deal was inevitable.
So far after four days and around 200 miles of variable driving the car seems good. It is comfortable, I don't think the driving position is offset as said above, it is quiet, and the power is OK, even though it's 195 BHP less than the Jaguar XF! I doubt if I'll ever have the third row seats up so the boot area is really good. I expected the 9 gears to be forever hunting but I've not experience that at all. I read about the parking difficulties but so far I've not needed to get it into a tight space, although getting into the garage is a close thing due to the width including mirrors.
So far the only issues I'm having is that the media/satnav etc screen is quite a stretch to operate when driving, perhaps dangerously so, and I haven't been able to find a way of disabling the child proof door locks even after consulting the online digital handbook.
The running costs will be a lot less that the XF.
I always plan to keep cars for maybe 10 years. I would have done so with the XF had the wife found it more comfortable. I'm hoping the Discovery Sport will be a long-termer.
R.
The Leaper said:
I've been reading this thread for a few days.....
After 16 years of having three V8 engine Jaguars in succession, last Friday changed my Jaguar XF 5.0 V8 Portfolio for a Land Rover Discovery Sport 2.2 SD4 HSE Luxury. The sole reason for the change is because the wife, after three hip operations, has found the XF uncomfortable after about an hour or so, so longish journeys have become difficult for her. Recently when the XF was being serviced I had a Defender 4 as a loan car. Wife found it to be amazingly comfortable so from then on I've been under attack to change. She understands that the Defender 4 is really not an appropriate vehicle for the two of us. They also seem to have high residual values and as I was not in the market for a brand new car, a Defender 4 was ruled out.
Our son had a Range Rover for many years and a good friend has a Freelander 2. Consequently, I've been a RR/LR fan for a while. I'd love a RR but there's just the two of us, we're retired and frankly it's too large and an expensive purchase.
So, the Discovery Sport has an appeal. It's in the RR/LR stable, it has the seating that the wife seems to need, it's not a big vehicle, it was affordable, and it was in the colour combination and options etc that I would specify if buying new. The deal was inevitable.
So far after four days and around 200 miles of variable driving the car seems good. It is comfortable, I don't think the driving position is offset as said above, it is quiet, and the power is OK, even though it's 195 BHP less than the Jaguar XF! I doubt if I'll ever have the third row seats up so the boot area is really good. I expected the 9 gears to be forever hunting but I've not experience that at all. I read about the parking difficulties but so far I've not needed to get it into a tight space, although getting into the garage is a close thing due to the width including mirrors.
So far the only issues I'm having is that the media/satnav etc screen is quite a stretch to operate when driving, perhaps dangerously so, and I haven't been able to find a way of disabling the child proof door locks even after consulting the online digital handbook.
The running costs will be a lot less that the XF.
I always plan to keep cars for maybe 10 years. I would have done so with the XF had the wife found it more comfortable. I'm hoping the Discovery Sport will be a long-termer.
R.
Re-child locks. Go into the vehicle settings menu - the one that changes between the dials to show fuel etc. There should be a setting called something like 'Drive away locking'After 16 years of having three V8 engine Jaguars in succession, last Friday changed my Jaguar XF 5.0 V8 Portfolio for a Land Rover Discovery Sport 2.2 SD4 HSE Luxury. The sole reason for the change is because the wife, after three hip operations, has found the XF uncomfortable after about an hour or so, so longish journeys have become difficult for her. Recently when the XF was being serviced I had a Defender 4 as a loan car. Wife found it to be amazingly comfortable so from then on I've been under attack to change. She understands that the Defender 4 is really not an appropriate vehicle for the two of us. They also seem to have high residual values and as I was not in the market for a brand new car, a Defender 4 was ruled out.
Our son had a Range Rover for many years and a good friend has a Freelander 2. Consequently, I've been a RR/LR fan for a while. I'd love a RR but there's just the two of us, we're retired and frankly it's too large and an expensive purchase.
So, the Discovery Sport has an appeal. It's in the RR/LR stable, it has the seating that the wife seems to need, it's not a big vehicle, it was affordable, and it was in the colour combination and options etc that I would specify if buying new. The deal was inevitable.
So far after four days and around 200 miles of variable driving the car seems good. It is comfortable, I don't think the driving position is offset as said above, it is quiet, and the power is OK, even though it's 195 BHP less than the Jaguar XF! I doubt if I'll ever have the third row seats up so the boot area is really good. I expected the 9 gears to be forever hunting but I've not experience that at all. I read about the parking difficulties but so far I've not needed to get it into a tight space, although getting into the garage is a close thing due to the width including mirrors.
So far the only issues I'm having is that the media/satnav etc screen is quite a stretch to operate when driving, perhaps dangerously so, and I haven't been able to find a way of disabling the child proof door locks even after consulting the online digital handbook.
The running costs will be a lot less that the XF.
I always plan to keep cars for maybe 10 years. I would have done so with the XF had the wife found it more comfortable. I'm hoping the Discovery Sport will be a long-termer.
R.
I'm in bed right now and it's too cold to wander outside. :-)
Having driven for 300 miles so far in the Demo I am impressed.
42.1 on the trip so far.
Gets on with it when asked.
The Car is HSE spec standard Nav so I am not sure the 1400 quid upgrade is worth it.
Way better ride than the GLC of last week, sure not as premium a feel internally, but I like a more utilitarian car not so precious.
42.1 on the trip so far.
Gets on with it when asked.
The Car is HSE spec standard Nav so I am not sure the 1400 quid upgrade is worth it.
Way better ride than the GLC of last week, sure not as premium a feel internally, but I like a more utilitarian car not so precious.
Bought the wife a new DS HSE in March after 6 years of an E70 X5, its now done 7k. I often use her car at weekends for family duties. The jury's out for me...
Bad bits: 45 litre tank so relatively short range, some idiosyncracies: occasional issue with keyless entry not locking/unlocking; gear dial selector has refused to turn when I pulled over and wanted to park; radio switched itself off the other day when stationary, required on/off to 'reboot', squeaky break pedal (lubed by dealer and then 'they all do that Sir')
Good bits: It's practical, well spec'd, returns 41mpg on a motorway run, capable and comfortable on long journeys, good gear box, quiet at speed, hope it snows soon so can really see what this LR hype is about
Bad bits: 45 litre tank so relatively short range, some idiosyncracies: occasional issue with keyless entry not locking/unlocking; gear dial selector has refused to turn when I pulled over and wanted to park; radio switched itself off the other day when stationary, required on/off to 'reboot', squeaky break pedal (lubed by dealer and then 'they all do that Sir')
Good bits: It's practical, well spec'd, returns 41mpg on a motorway run, capable and comfortable on long journeys, good gear box, quiet at speed, hope it snows soon so can really see what this LR hype is about
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