Should I buy this L322 ??
Discussion
David Beer said:
Deranged Rover said:
Blimey - didn't notice it was an LSE.
An LSE for £11.5k? Buy it now - go on; run, don't walk!
Thanks for the explanation!
I realized it‘s an LWB. Would have prefered the SWB tbh.
Here‘s the link to the ad:
https://www.autoscout24.ch/de/7152708?utm_campaign...
I phoned them and will be viewing it tommorrow morning first thing....
Can‘t wait!!!!!!
ETA: do keep in mind it got 160k miles on it!!
I realized it‘s an LWB. Would have prefered the SWB tbh.
Here‘s the link to the ad:
https://www.autoscout24.ch/de/7152708?utm_campaign...
I phoned them and will be viewing it tommorrow morning first thing....
Can‘t wait!!!!!!
ETA: do keep in mind it got 160k miles on it!!
Edited by Filibuster on Friday 15th November 19:34
Filibuster said:
Thanks for the explanation!
I realized it‘s an LWB. Would have prefered the SWB tbh.
Here‘s the link to the ad:
https://www.autoscout24.ch/de/7152708?utm_campaign...
I phoned them and will be viewing it tommorrow morning first thing....
Can‘t wait!!!!!!
I realized it‘s an LWB. Would have prefered the SWB tbh.
Here‘s the link to the ad:
https://www.autoscout24.ch/de/7152708?utm_campaign...
I phoned them and will be viewing it tommorrow morning first thing....
Can‘t wait!!!!!!
Just read that one of my favourite musicians of all time had an ‘94 LSE: Mark Knopfler
https://www.lro.com/reviews/featured-vehicles/1502...
https://www.lro.com/reviews/featured-vehicles/1502...
Filibuster said:
Thanks for the explanation!
I realized it‘s an LWB. Would have prefered the SWB tbh.
Here‘s the link to the ad:
https://www.autoscout24.ch/de/7152708?utm_campaign...
I phoned them and will be viewing it tommorrow morning first thing....
Can‘t wait!!!!!!
ETA: do keep in mind it got 160k miles on it!!
Well, what was the verdict, then? Don't keep us in suspense!I realized it‘s an LWB. Would have prefered the SWB tbh.
Here‘s the link to the ad:
https://www.autoscout24.ch/de/7152708?utm_campaign...
I phoned them and will be viewing it tommorrow morning first thing....
Can‘t wait!!!!!!
ETA: do keep in mind it got 160k miles on it!!
Edited by Filibuster on Friday 15th November 19:34
Well, somebody must have bought it on Saturday, since the ad is no longer live... 
But that somebody wasn't me... Here's why:
The good points where:
Well, I guess there is a reason a visually identical '93 LSE sold for £30k at auction earlier this year and this one was up for a third of the price....
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/lf17/london/lot...
But that somebody wasn't me... Here's why:
The good points where:
- the car had a full respray in Ardennes Green. Lovely!!!! Apparently the rust has all been taken care off, good!
- the leather seats where reupholstered in very high quality leather
- the ceiling was redone at the same time. All cosmetic work (exterior + interior) has apparently been done this year.
- MFK (Swiss MOT) in May 2019 this has to be done every two year
- the original service book was present, the first owner being an english lady owner with a chalet between Montreux and Gstaad.
- The english lady owner did less than 8k miles until 2000, one more stamp in 2001@22k miles and then not the slightest of history for the next 18 years and 137.5k miles, not even for the recent respray, reupholstery and service ???
- Before viewing I found out, that the car has been sold in May 2019 (just after having had the MFK) in the next village for £14.5k. Now it is for sale with 600 miles more @ £3k less?
- The interior looks great in pictures, much less so in real life. Yes the seats and ceiling are nice, but everything else is not. Broken bits 'n pieces everywhere.
- Carpets in the front footwell where not only mold, but splashed when tapping it with your hand.
- all door caskets where completely gone
- rear driver side door wouldn't open
- upper tailgate wouldn't lock
- upper tailgate's struts where shot (so the tailgate wouldn't stay open, but couldn't be properly closed either
) - Electric seats worked, or at least one way. Seat heating didn't work.
- Rear seats wouldn't lock in place an fall flat when braking hard.
- couldn't test the a/c, but from the look of it, it wouldn't work in a hundred years. also no compressor clutch can be heard.
- the mighty V8 wouldn't fire up until the third time when cold, not before the second time when warm
- Air suspension not really working in standstill, even less so when on the move. The compressor is constantly pumping and doesn't sound healthy at all. The left side never came up completely. Car wouldn't go in off road height mode.
- The mighty V8 felt pretty worn. The compression felt to be rather low.
- The drivetrain made weird noises. "Gliding" @ 40mph with not throttle was okay, but the slightest throttle input resulted in loud whine.
- Gearbox was not shifting smoothly at all.
- Brakes where ok-ish.
- Half the electric lightning didn't work.
- Last mandatory emissions test (every 2 years with this Euro 1 petrol) is 4 years old. This gets checked at MFK!
Well, I guess there is a reason a visually identical '93 LSE sold for £30k at auction earlier this year and this one was up for a third of the price....
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/lf17/london/lot...
Nevertheless someone bought the car the very same day ...
If you are handy with spanners and are prepared to work (a lot) on it yourself, it might have been a decent buy at just under £10k.
But not what I'm after...
Again, back to the drawing board:
L322
2007 onwards (idealy 2009 onwards)
preferably petrol
idealy dark blue or green
no black interior
no tints
no more than £15k (idealy no more than £10k)
I will just wait until this very car pops up and get it bought!
Just had another look on mobile.de and found this:
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...
But I don't think I'm willing to get one imported to Switzerland, as it involves lots of paperwork, time and taxes!
I might consider it from a proper dealer where I could get the 19% German VAT back, but the seller (his Google reviews don't sound too promising) states that the VAT would not be reportable....
If you search for a 2007-2012 petrol L322 in either blue or green, there are only 2 apparently on the continent
The one above and a green one that is not really green ....
It seems there haven't been too many L322 5.0 S/C that where not black or the then fashionable brown. Or sans tints....
If you are handy with spanners and are prepared to work (a lot) on it yourself, it might have been a decent buy at just under £10k.
But not what I'm after...
Again, back to the drawing board:
L322
2007 onwards (idealy 2009 onwards)
preferably petrol
idealy dark blue or green
no black interior
no tints
no more than £15k (idealy no more than £10k)
I will just wait until this very car pops up and get it bought!
Just had another look on mobile.de and found this:
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...
But I don't think I'm willing to get one imported to Switzerland, as it involves lots of paperwork, time and taxes!
I might consider it from a proper dealer where I could get the 19% German VAT back, but the seller (his Google reviews don't sound too promising) states that the VAT would not be reportable....
If you search for a 2007-2012 petrol L322 in either blue or green, there are only 2 apparently on the continent
The one above and a green one that is not really green ....
It seems there haven't been too many L322 5.0 S/C that where not black or the then fashionable brown. Or sans tints....
There's a huge rrc thread in the classic cars section. I have one of those, a soft dash LSE. I could use it every day but I tend not to, it has cost a fortune in rust repairs and engine rebuilds, I should have sold it years ago...
But I haven't and it drives quite nicely now. Just look for rust, everywhere. If it hasn't been apart it will be really quite rusty.
But I haven't and it drives quite nicely now. Just look for rust, everywhere. If it hasn't been apart it will be really quite rusty.
DKL said:
There's a huge rrc thread in the classic cars section. I have one of those, a soft dash LSE. I could use it every day but I tend not to, it has cost a fortune in rust repairs and engine rebuilds, I should have sold it years ago...
But I haven't and it drives quite nicely now. Just look for rust, everywhere. If it hasn't been apart it will be really quite rusty.
Damn you! I know that thread and I stoped reading it deliberately , but since you brought it up again I read another 10 pages and of course I have been looking again for RRC ...... But I haven't and it drives quite nicely now. Just look for rust, everywhere. If it hasn't been apart it will be really quite rusty.
http://land-gland.ch/vehicules/land-rover-range-ro...
Of course it's at the other end of the country, but being Switzerland, that is only 2.5h away
A beautiful car, tough with the cloth interior.
What is nice that it is for sale at a Land Rover specialist who really, really seems to know these cars!
After a very long back and forth, I'm the proud new owner of a Range Rover (well, new to me obviously).
After having started looking at L322 and lately Range Rover Classic, today I bought a P38
She's a 2000 4.6 HSE, one owner car with 105k miles. I got her for £5.5k.
Of course she's not completely flawless!
The headliner is sagging in the boot area and some HVAC pixels are dead.
On the plus side the bodywork is in extremely nice condition, as is the gorgeous leather!
The HVAC works perfectly and also two new rear airbag springs have been put in there for last weeks MFK (Swiss MOT, good for two years).
The Thor engine starts at the first turn and runs smoothly!
As I told you several times no doubt, I desperately wanted (no, needed!) a Range Rover!
Unfortunately no one else around me wanted one. So I decided against reducing the fleet, but rather buy the Range Rover on top.
Not having found a suitable L322 in the last few weeks at a price I felt comfortable with, and realizing the RRC really is a classic car and also too expensive for a good one, only yesterday I started looking at P38.
My best friends parent had one (also a late 4.6 HSE with the same interior but dark blue on the outside) when we where teenagers and we have done several trips across Europe. I also remember all the time it was sent to the garage to be fixed
It just felt the right car, at the right moment for the right price!
Will do a Readers Car Thread on this! I'l keep you posted!
After having started looking at L322 and lately Range Rover Classic, today I bought a P38
She's a 2000 4.6 HSE, one owner car with 105k miles. I got her for £5.5k.
Of course she's not completely flawless!
The headliner is sagging in the boot area and some HVAC pixels are dead.
On the plus side the bodywork is in extremely nice condition, as is the gorgeous leather!
The HVAC works perfectly and also two new rear airbag springs have been put in there for last weeks MFK (Swiss MOT, good for two years).
The Thor engine starts at the first turn and runs smoothly!
As I told you several times no doubt, I desperately wanted (no, needed!) a Range Rover!
Unfortunately no one else around me wanted one. So I decided against reducing the fleet, but rather buy the Range Rover on top.
Not having found a suitable L322 in the last few weeks at a price I felt comfortable with, and realizing the RRC really is a classic car and also too expensive for a good one, only yesterday I started looking at P38.
My best friends parent had one (also a late 4.6 HSE with the same interior but dark blue on the outside) when we where teenagers and we have done several trips across Europe. I also remember all the time it was sent to the garage to be fixed
It just felt the right car, at the right moment for the right price!
Will do a Readers Car Thread on this! I'l keep you posted!
Filibuster said:
After a very long back and forth, I'm the proud new owner of a Range Rover (well, new to me obviously).
She's a 2000 4.6 HSE, one owner car with 105k miles. I got her for £5.5k.
Of course she's not completely flawless!
The headliner is sagging in the boot area and some HVAC pixels are dead.
On the plus side the bodywork is in extremely nice condition, as is the gorgeous leather!
The HVAC works perfectly and also two new rear airbag springs have been put in there for last weeks MFK (Swiss MOT, good for two years).
The Thor engine starts at the first turn and runs smoothly!
As I told you several times no doubt, I desperately wanted (no, needed!) a Range Rover!
Unfortunately no one else around me wanted one. So I decided against reducing the fleet, but rather buy the Range Rover on top.
Not having found a suitable L322 in the last few weeks at a price I felt comfortable with, and realizing the RRC really is a classic car and also too expensive for a good one, only yesterday I started looking at P38.
My best friends parent had one (also a late 4.6 HSE with the same interior but dark blue on the outside) when we where teenagers and we have done several trips across Europe. I also remember all the time it was sent to the garage to be fixed
It just felt the right car, at the right moment for the right price!
Will do a Readers Car Thread on this! I'l keep you posted!
Has it had a new steering wheel? Looks very non-shiny.She's a 2000 4.6 HSE, one owner car with 105k miles. I got her for £5.5k.
Of course she's not completely flawless!
The headliner is sagging in the boot area and some HVAC pixels are dead.
On the plus side the bodywork is in extremely nice condition, as is the gorgeous leather!
The HVAC works perfectly and also two new rear airbag springs have been put in there for last weeks MFK (Swiss MOT, good for two years).
The Thor engine starts at the first turn and runs smoothly!
As I told you several times no doubt, I desperately wanted (no, needed!) a Range Rover!
Unfortunately no one else around me wanted one. So I decided against reducing the fleet, but rather buy the Range Rover on top.
Not having found a suitable L322 in the last few weeks at a price I felt comfortable with, and realizing the RRC really is a classic car and also too expensive for a good one, only yesterday I started looking at P38.
My best friends parent had one (also a late 4.6 HSE with the same interior but dark blue on the outside) when we where teenagers and we have done several trips across Europe. I also remember all the time it was sent to the garage to be fixed
It just felt the right car, at the right moment for the right price!
Will do a Readers Car Thread on this! I'l keep you posted!
Anyway, I had a P38. They were the last model before the Sport and Vogue separated. Consequently they were a blend of both, which was a good thing.
You are making a very good point, So!
The size was one of the reasons I bought a P38. It is much less intimidating than a L322 or even the L405. I hope this makes the OH accept it quicker, she hasn’t seen the car yet btw
Compared to todays car the P38 looks, dare I say it, small!
I really believe this car will grow a bigger fan community in the near future, as it has happened with the Porsche 996 before.
As with the 996, the P38 has been preceded and replaced with a far more popular model.
BTW, here is a link to my readers car thread:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
The size was one of the reasons I bought a P38. It is much less intimidating than a L322 or even the L405. I hope this makes the OH accept it quicker, she hasn’t seen the car yet btw
Compared to todays car the P38 looks, dare I say it, small!
I really believe this car will grow a bigger fan community in the near future, as it has happened with the Porsche 996 before.
As with the 996, the P38 has been preceded and replaced with a far more popular model.
BTW, here is a link to my readers car thread:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I have sold the P38 a year ago to a very good home. After exactly 1 year and 8k miles, I realized the P38 wasn't the car I lusted after.
It has been great, including a trip to St. Tropez on New Year 19/20, but it had to go.
In the meantime I have become a father and a 2017 Volvo V90 T8 has been bought as a family car. Also, I sold my classic car (1967 Volvo P1800S).
But now the hunt for an other Range Rover is on!
Following your good advices, I'm after a MY07 onwards 4.2 S/C in gentleman's / landed gentry spec: no tints, light interior, blue/green/grey.
Being a secondary car, I have set myself a budget for around £10k.
Here in Switzerland, not one such car is for sale at the moment. They are rare in the UK too, it seems.
I will keep you posted!
It has been great, including a trip to St. Tropez on New Year 19/20, but it had to go.
In the meantime I have become a father and a 2017 Volvo V90 T8 has been bought as a family car. Also, I sold my classic car (1967 Volvo P1800S).
But now the hunt for an other Range Rover is on!
Following your good advices, I'm after a MY07 onwards 4.2 S/C in gentleman's / landed gentry spec: no tints, light interior, blue/green/grey.
Being a secondary car, I have set myself a budget for around £10k.
Here in Switzerland, not one such car is for sale at the moment. They are rare in the UK too, it seems.
I will keep you posted!
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