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JimmyConwayNW said:
If anyone has a build slot for one and has decided against it and wants to move it on please feel free to DM me. Had one ordered but as linked to motor trade my order has been cancelled. Not looking to flip it, looking to keep for 18/24 months.
Only stipulation is that its black any engine.
Jimmy, they told me this is why my New Defender slot has been moved up the queue. They had identified potential “flippers” so had cancelled orders. Only stipulation is that its black any engine.
Wheelspinning said:
richthebike said:
My build slot got moved up so had to finalise my spec this week (for July delivery, was expecting November).
D350 SE
Belgravia with shadow pack, gloss 22" wheels
Privacy and Laminated glass
Spare wheel
Ecru Windsor with the black grained wood
Nice.D350 SE
Belgravia with shadow pack, gloss 22" wheels
Privacy and Laminated glass
Spare wheel
Ecru Windsor with the black grained wood
I have the demo booked for all day Friday so looking forward to seeing if its as good as the hype.
My plug in hybrid one is still supposed to be late June/July.
What a vehicle; honestly, its just even better than you would of hoped.
The noise cancellation tech is amazing as whisper quiet at all times.
The 4 wheel steer is fantastic and hard to comprehend how small a turning circle it has and how quickly it changes direction.
The seats are unbelievably comfy.
I genuinely cannot wait for the plug-in Autobiography we have coming and they are very confident end of June beginning of July.
We were told that its actually doing 80 miles real world range rather than the 69 miles indicated.
A bit back, i ordered another as a replacement which arrives next April, but my guy at the dealer is saying now they have hit the road and press / youtubers are doing rave reports they are looking at 18mths min order now.
What a motor.
If you have one coming you are going to love it.
I originally had this posted in the car buying section - but it's probably more appropriate in this thread;
I wanted to order the new plug-in hybrid FFRR in November 2021. However, as the PHEV wasn't priced (or even listed on the website), the dealer advised me to order a P400 (with £1000 deposit), then change the model to the PHEV P440e once prices & spec were available on the configurator in February 2022.
The dealer accepted the order & agreement (which I signed in Nov 21). We then changed the model to the PHEV on the day it was announced/priced in February 22, and the finance was subsequently approved within a few days.
Sometime in mid April, JLR increased the price of all FFRR models, which puts my build at now around £5k more than the figure agreed when the finance was agreed (the APR has also crept up by 0.5%).
With delivery of my PHEV not anticipated until around December, should I expect to pay the price agreed in February, or will JLR be looking to re-quote the finance based on the price at time of (expected) delivery later in the year?
I wanted to order the new plug-in hybrid FFRR in November 2021. However, as the PHEV wasn't priced (or even listed on the website), the dealer advised me to order a P400 (with £1000 deposit), then change the model to the PHEV P440e once prices & spec were available on the configurator in February 2022.
The dealer accepted the order & agreement (which I signed in Nov 21). We then changed the model to the PHEV on the day it was announced/priced in February 22, and the finance was subsequently approved within a few days.
Sometime in mid April, JLR increased the price of all FFRR models, which puts my build at now around £5k more than the figure agreed when the finance was agreed (the APR has also crept up by 0.5%).
With delivery of my PHEV not anticipated until around December, should I expect to pay the price agreed in February, or will JLR be looking to re-quote the finance based on the price at time of (expected) delivery later in the year?
JimmyCauty said:
I originally had this posted in the car buying section - but it's probably more appropriate in this thread;
I wanted to order the new plug-in hybrid FFRR in November 2021. However, as the PHEV wasn't priced (or even listed on the website), the dealer advised me to order a P400 (with 1000 deposit), then change the model to the PHEV P440e once prices & spec were available on the configurator in February 2022.
The dealer accepted the order & agreement (which I signed in Nov 21). We then changed the model to the PHEV on the day it was announced/priced in February 22, and the finance was subsequently approved within a few days.
Sometime in mid April, JLR increased the price of all FFRR models, which puts my build at now around 5k more than the figure agreed when the finance was agreed (the APR has also crept up by 0.5%).
With delivery of my PHEV not anticipated until around December, should I expect to pay the price agreed in February, or will JLR be looking to re-quote the finance based on the price at time of (expected) delivery later in the year?
I did the same route as yourself.I wanted to order the new plug-in hybrid FFRR in November 2021. However, as the PHEV wasn't priced (or even listed on the website), the dealer advised me to order a P400 (with 1000 deposit), then change the model to the PHEV P440e once prices & spec were available on the configurator in February 2022.
The dealer accepted the order & agreement (which I signed in Nov 21). We then changed the model to the PHEV on the day it was announced/priced in February 22, and the finance was subsequently approved within a few days.
Sometime in mid April, JLR increased the price of all FFRR models, which puts my build at now around 5k more than the figure agreed when the finance was agreed (the APR has also crept up by 0.5%).
With delivery of my PHEV not anticipated until around December, should I expect to pay the price agreed in February, or will JLR be looking to re-quote the finance based on the price at time of (expected) delivery later in the year?
Ordered a P400 on week of launch and flipped the order to the plug in hybrid when it was finally announced.
Although i was in there on Friday collecting the demo, I am not aware that the price has increased and they still reckon ours arrives late June early July.
Personally, I would suck it up and not fret about it as these are currently circa £35-40k over list and shall continue to be well over list for at least 18mths.
As my previous post they informed me on Friday if ordered with them today its an 18month order minimum.
I personally think the plug in hybrid is going to be the most in demand until the full electric arrives in 24 months, but even then this would be the model choice for myself as best of both worlds.
70+ miles electric range in full fat Range Rover...whats not to like?
Wheelspinning said:
I did the same route as yourself.
Ordered a P400 on week of launch and flipped the order to the plug in hybrid when it was finally announced.
Although i was in there on Friday collecting the demo, I am not aware that the price has increased and they still reckon ours arrives late June early July.
Personally, I would suck it up and not fret about it as these are currently circa 35-40k over list and shall continue to be well over list for at least 18mths.
As my previous post they informed me on Friday if ordered with them today its an 18month order minimum.
I personally think the plug in hybrid is going to be the most in demand until the full electric arrives in 24 months, but even then this would be the model choice for myself as best of both worlds.
70+ miles electric range in full fat Range Rover...whats not to like?
Thanks - that's good news that you're getting the hybrid so soon.Ordered a P400 on week of launch and flipped the order to the plug in hybrid when it was finally announced.
Although i was in there on Friday collecting the demo, I am not aware that the price has increased and they still reckon ours arrives late June early July.
Personally, I would suck it up and not fret about it as these are currently circa 35-40k over list and shall continue to be well over list for at least 18mths.
As my previous post they informed me on Friday if ordered with them today its an 18month order minimum.
I personally think the plug in hybrid is going to be the most in demand until the full electric arrives in 24 months, but even then this would be the model choice for myself as best of both worlds.
70+ miles electric range in full fat Range Rover...whats not to like?
My dealer has been pretty quiet since February, and the last time we spoke about borrowing the demonstrator for an afternoon, he said that he couldn't see any PHEV models on the system with a build date (whatever 'system' that is)?
I didn't realise they were selling for such a mark-up, but like yourself, I have no plans to get rid of it quickly. Still, it will be interesting to see if the dealer mentions the price increase anytime soon...
This will be my first Range Rover, so really looking forward to picking it up - but that seems a long time away at this stage.
JimmyCauty said:
Wheelspinning said:
I did the same route as yourself.
Ordered a P400 on week of launch and flipped the order to the plug in hybrid when it was finally announced.
Although i was in there on Friday collecting the demo, I am not aware that the price has increased and they still reckon ours arrives late June early July.
Personally, I would suck it up and not fret about it as these are currently circa 35-40k over list and shall continue to be well over list for at least 18mths.
As my previous post they informed me on Friday if ordered with them today its an 18month order minimum.
I personally think the plug in hybrid is going to be the most in demand until the full electric arrives in 24 months, but even then this would be the model choice for myself as best of both worlds.
70+ miles electric range in full fat Range Rover...whats not to like?
Thanks - that's good news that you're getting the hybrid so soon.Ordered a P400 on week of launch and flipped the order to the plug in hybrid when it was finally announced.
Although i was in there on Friday collecting the demo, I am not aware that the price has increased and they still reckon ours arrives late June early July.
Personally, I would suck it up and not fret about it as these are currently circa 35-40k over list and shall continue to be well over list for at least 18mths.
As my previous post they informed me on Friday if ordered with them today its an 18month order minimum.
I personally think the plug in hybrid is going to be the most in demand until the full electric arrives in 24 months, but even then this would be the model choice for myself as best of both worlds.
70+ miles electric range in full fat Range Rover...whats not to like?
My dealer has been pretty quiet since February, and the last time we spoke about borrowing the demonstrator for an afternoon, he said that he couldn't see any PHEV models on the system with a build date (whatever 'system' that is)?
I didn't realise they were selling for such a mark-up, but like yourself, I have no plans to get rid of it quickly. Still, it will be interesting to see if the dealer mentions the price increase anytime soon...
This will be my first Range Rover, so really looking forward to picking it up - but that seems a long time away at this stage.
I am fully aware of all the negative posts about reliability issues, but I also have had McLarens for the last 4 years.
They get slaughtered for being unreliable rust heaps on forums and yet mines have been nothing short of awesome, so going into RR ownership with a clear mind; after having the demo all day Friday I honestly cannot wait for ours to arrive.
It was honestly like nothing I have driven before.
So I’m one of a very limited few that got my car early. First in the NE I’m led to believe.
We just ticked the 3000 mile mark off on it after a e turn trip to London yesterday so here is my ten pence worth.
A FFRR was always a car that was on my bucket list, I’m just the other side of 40 and thought now was the time, Strong residuals on my 992 meant that it made absolute sense to place my deposit back in October and that there was a strong chance this vehicle would do me a turn with regard depreciation, something no FFRR has ever done before.
Mine is a belgravia green with the non-chrome accents, they’re a slightly golden colour, D350 HSE. Perlino leather, deployable side steps and most importantly, silver wheels!
The car has not skipped a beat. It’s beautiful to look at and the lower sill/belt line that runs from the front passenger doors around and to the rear sets the car off beautifully. It is such a beautifully designed thing. It will however, I expect be very colour sensitive. Build quality is exceptional and design thought through. The BMW sourced engine is a star, delivers power throughout the range and runs so quietly youd be forgiven for thinking it was a 2.0 petrol. The most notable thing however is the MHEV tech, a 440 mile round trip yesterday at an average of 38.7 mpg. We did tickle it over 40 on a long run back from Aberdeenshire the weekend it was delivered too.
I can’t see anyone being disappointed. On the week I took the car, I ran it alongside a motoring journalists Cullinan black badge and I know which I preferred. If they can build them, this will be the car of choice once again.
We just ticked the 3000 mile mark off on it after a e turn trip to London yesterday so here is my ten pence worth.
A FFRR was always a car that was on my bucket list, I’m just the other side of 40 and thought now was the time, Strong residuals on my 992 meant that it made absolute sense to place my deposit back in October and that there was a strong chance this vehicle would do me a turn with regard depreciation, something no FFRR has ever done before.
Mine is a belgravia green with the non-chrome accents, they’re a slightly golden colour, D350 HSE. Perlino leather, deployable side steps and most importantly, silver wheels!
The car has not skipped a beat. It’s beautiful to look at and the lower sill/belt line that runs from the front passenger doors around and to the rear sets the car off beautifully. It is such a beautifully designed thing. It will however, I expect be very colour sensitive. Build quality is exceptional and design thought through. The BMW sourced engine is a star, delivers power throughout the range and runs so quietly youd be forgiven for thinking it was a 2.0 petrol. The most notable thing however is the MHEV tech, a 440 mile round trip yesterday at an average of 38.7 mpg. We did tickle it over 40 on a long run back from Aberdeenshire the weekend it was delivered too.
I can’t see anyone being disappointed. On the week I took the car, I ran it alongside a motoring journalists Cullinan black badge and I know which I preferred. If they can build them, this will be the car of choice once again.
Love to see a few pics of the green. I saw one briefly in the flesh at Solihul, but haven't seen one in the wild yet - just black and white.
Following the viewing I, cancelled mine as I couldn't get on with the styling (nothing wrong with it as such, just too modern for me). Interested to see if I still feel the same.
Please to hear about the silver wheels!
Following the viewing I, cancelled mine as I couldn't get on with the styling (nothing wrong with it as such, just too modern for me). Interested to see if I still feel the same.
Please to hear about the silver wheels!
Check out the Harry’s Garage review. This one is green but looks grey most of the time:
https://youtu.be/eurW933qb6U
https://youtu.be/eurW933qb6U
Wheelspinning said:
So we had a D350 SE all day yesterday.
What a vehicle; honestly, its just even better than you would of hoped.
The noise cancellation tech is amazing as whisper quiet at all times.
The 4 wheel steer is fantastic and hard to comprehend how small a turning circle it has and how quickly it changes direction.
The seats are unbelievably comfy.
I genuinely cannot wait for the plug-in Autobiography we have coming and they are very confident end of June beginning of July.
We were told that its actually doing 80 miles real world range rather than the 69 miles indicated.
A bit back, i ordered another as a replacement which arrives next April, but my guy at the dealer is saying now they have hit the road and press / youtubers are doing rave reports they are looking at 18mths min order now.
What a motor.
If you have one coming you are going to love it.
That’s the colour scheme I have chosen. Apparently my order is ‘confirmed’ but doesn’t have a build slot yet. In no rush though as I’m still enjoying a late L405, my 6th Range Rover. Only one RR I’ve owned has ever had a significant mechanical failure, otherwise they’ve all been great. What a vehicle; honestly, its just even better than you would of hoped.
The noise cancellation tech is amazing as whisper quiet at all times.
The 4 wheel steer is fantastic and hard to comprehend how small a turning circle it has and how quickly it changes direction.
The seats are unbelievably comfy.
I genuinely cannot wait for the plug-in Autobiography we have coming and they are very confident end of June beginning of July.
We were told that its actually doing 80 miles real world range rather than the 69 miles indicated.
A bit back, i ordered another as a replacement which arrives next April, but my guy at the dealer is saying now they have hit the road and press / youtubers are doing rave reports they are looking at 18mths min order now.
What a motor.
If you have one coming you are going to love it.
NomduJour said:
Wheelspinning said:
70+ miles electric range in full fat Range Rover...whats not to like?
The 2.5 tonne towing limit. Out of interest, the D350 is the most popular engine in the EU. 0-62 in 5.8s, 700nm of torque and 30+ Mpg. What’s not to like?
Phil. said:
Check out the Harry’s Garage review. This one is green but looks grey most of the time:
https://youtu.be/eurW933qb6U
Seemeed an unbiased review.https://youtu.be/eurW933qb6U
Phil. said:
Check out the Harry’s Garage review. This one is green but looks grey most of the time:
https://youtu.be/eurW933qb6U
Ah thank you, bedtime viewing. I couldn't believe I'd missed that, but saw it came out after I posted!https://youtu.be/eurW933qb6U
I had a quick look and still feel the same about the car, its a bit weird looking, especially in that colour. I'm happy to not be replacing my green 405 supercharged until the electric one appears (or they put a nice burgundy in the pallette!).
Louis Balfour said:
Phil. said:
Check out the Harry’s Garage review. This one is green but looks grey most of the time:
https://youtu.be/eurW933qb6U
Seemeed an unbiased review.https://youtu.be/eurW933qb6U
I borrowed a Discovery Sport when my FFRR was being serviced last week. Looks like the same steering wheel controls as on the new FF. If so, Harry’s right that they’re not as nice as the current ones.
One thing that’s noticeable in that video is that one of my (slightly OCD) irritations with the L405 remains. Namely that the vehicle shown on the onscreen displays still isn’t colour matched to the actual car. Always strikes me as odd that you can mess around with ambient lighting colours but not get something as simple as that set correctly.
LooneyTunes said:
I borrowed a Discovery Sport when my FFRR was being serviced last week. Looks like the same steering wheel controls as on the new FF. If so, Harry’s right that they’re not as nice as the current ones.
Yep, we had an F-Pace as a service loaner and we immediately recognised parts that were now in the new FFRR. Same from the Velar.I know that parts sharing is a must, it just reduces the experiance, and value proposition.
Phil. said:
NomduJour said:
Wheelspinning said:
70+ miles electric range in full fat Range Rover...whats not to like?
The 2.5 tonne towing limit. Out of interest, the D350 is the most popular engine in the EU. 0-62 in 5.8s, 700nm of torque and 30+ Mpg. What’s not to like?
I was specifically commenting on the plug in hybrid version.
This is for my wife and she won't be towing anything, and I don't think she has ever travelled more than 50miles in a day in any of her cars; I am anticipating filling it with fuel a few times a year.
The previous 20yrs worth of vehicles she has owned have, on a very good day, never cracked 18mpg, so if the fuel economy is better than that as an average its all good for us.
Regards the software; going by my day of use on Friday, I will go out on a limb here and take it as a given they have, like every other aspect of the vehicle, significantly improved the hybrid technicalities, hence why they are managing a quantum leap from around 12miles to 70+ miles on full electric only on something weighing in around 2.8t.
They have banged the drums about this as Bentaga, Urus etc are nowhere near this and would not want egg on their face...
Hopefully!
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