New FFRR

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Dashnine

1,302 posts

50 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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Sixpackpert said:
WonkeyDonkey said:
Someone's getting into trouble for the pictures of the white one.
The white one looks like an early mock up. Normal door handles and side vents.
I think the centre panel of the side vent is filled in, you can see the curve at the bottom. Flush handles too, it’s just unlocked.

Dashnine

1,302 posts

50 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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Cold said:
The front looks reassuringly similar, but I do like the new rear. Shame the interior touch screen isn't flushed into the dash.
It’s the latest thing to have it proud like an iPad, blame Tesla.

JimmyConwayNW

3,065 posts

125 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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Starting approx £90k
Autobiography will be £130/140k
SVA aiming for £180/£190k

Configurator to go live Weds with youtube launch weds 08:30 ish.

is-uk

1,481 posts

216 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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W4NTED

690 posts

214 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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Very American / Cadillac look on that Black one

Rufus Stone

6,205 posts

56 months

Saturday 23rd October 2021
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is-uk said:
Some leaked photo's from another forum.













That's fking awful.

Dixy

2,921 posts

205 months

Saturday 23rd October 2021
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If you find fking awful you are probably doing it wrong.

EdJ

1,286 posts

195 months

Saturday 23rd October 2021
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W4NTED said:
Deposit? How much? Dealers are not meant to be taking any money on these till next week! I have no deposit down but am assured an early car.
Is that what you've been told by your dealer? Mine took my deposit about a month ago, and told me many had put down a deposit before me.

JimmyConwayNW

3,065 posts

125 months

Saturday 23rd October 2021
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EdJ said:
Is that what you've been told by your dealer? Mine took my deposit about a month ago, and told me many had put down a deposit before me.
Had one in since April aswell. Offered chance to put a deposit on another this week aswell.

is-uk

1,481 posts

216 months

Sunday 24th October 2021
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C Lee Farquar

4,068 posts

216 months

Sunday 24th October 2021
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So, how do people feel about the way LR styling is going?

I'm a bit of a traditionalist. Range Rover wise I love the Classic and have had at least one since 1989. P38, had a nearly new one but never really smiled at it. I think the L322 is beautiful, a design classic. L405, non drug dealer spec, I can just about like and want one, wife's not keen of the sloping grill.

Difficult to judge the new one but it does seem to have taken some design cues from the rest of the jelly mould range, which I thinks a shame.

The styling from the Disco 4 to Disco 5 seems a catastrophic step.

I am a grumpy old man with no neighbours.

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Sunday 24th October 2021
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C Lee Farquar said:
So, how do people feel about the way LR styling is going?
The side and three-quarter profiles of it are, at a glance, pretty much the same as previous model so not a drastic change.

The front looks a bit soft, but the rear was probably needed to make the status symbol types upgrade or feel poor (the ones with the cheap dateless plates to hide age).

Edited by hyphen on Sunday 24th October 17:45

Stick Legs

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4,909 posts

165 months

Sunday 24th October 2021
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C Lee Farquar said:
So, how do people feel about the way LR styling is going?
I'm a bit of a traditionalist. Range Rover wise I love the Classic and have had at least one since 1989. P38, had a nearly new one but never really smiled at it. I think the L322 is beautiful, a design classic. L405, non drug dealer spec, I can just about like and want one, wife's not keen of the sloping grill.
With you on this:

Classic 2 Door - A design classic and just looks 'right'. Up there with the E-Type for perfection.

Classic 4 Door - Early ones aren't as pretty as the classic, best years IMHO were the late 3.5 / early 3.9 EFi cars which retained a lot of the charm of the 2 door and didn't look over done. For me the late cars, especially the LWB are at the one upgrade too many stage.

P38 - Had one, loved it. Early cars with Orange lights look nice, Thor engined cars with mask head lights and smoked indicators look best, especially in Epsom Green. Hate side steps and mudguards on them, clean & simple is best.

L322 - My favourite style wise after the Classic 2 - Door. Everything the Range Rover should have been, The TDV8 is the engine the car always deserved, a civiliszed torque monster with a V8 burble.
All model years look good, best in country not town spec. I was going to buy a beautiful Aintree Green late 2012 TDV8 until I drove a...

L405 - Styling it is not perfect, though in the details the more you look at it the more resolved it becomes, it's also the only one that doesn't look broken when parked in access mode! The way it drives is incredible on the road but it doesn't lose any of it's Range Roveryness.
If the L322 drove like the L405 it would be perfect.


As regards Drug Dealer spec... this has always been a thing, right from the Wood & Picket conversions of the 2 doors, through to Land Rover's own gloss black Vogue SE3.9 in the late 80's, the P38 was a pimp-my-ride special and the L322 moved the Range Rover into territory with the Supercharged Autobiography that essentially put Overfinch out of their tradition business and into the place they currently inhabit, making cars that are already good look like Librace's tomb. See Bill Blass edition Lincoln Continental for details.
I have never liked it, but that's my taste. It seems plenty do though.

I plan to look after my L405 very well, I am not a fan of the new one at all. If ordering new I'd have had a late SDV8 L405 in Byron Blue with 21" wheels and Ivory hide, clear glass. Maybe if one turns up in the distant future I may sell mine and buy that. But the new one does not make me immediately want one, and frankly if still ICE without a V8 it isn't a Range Rover.

Edited by Stick Legs on Sunday 24th October 18:32

Sixpackpert

4,559 posts

214 months

Tuesday 26th October 2021
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Harry’s Garage video https://youtu.be/11u9w4hX3q4

simonwhite2000

2,473 posts

97 months

Tuesday 26th October 2021
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The F Pace interior for twice the cost?

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Tuesday 26th October 2021
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Hugely impressive on paper but will it be reliable. It’s a car to lust over if you want the best, and it might be just that. I really do hope it’s solid

EdJ

1,286 posts

195 months

Thursday 28th October 2021
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Burwood said:
Hugely impressive on paper but will it be reliable. It’s a car to lust over if you want the best, and it might be just that. I really do hope it’s solid
Every time I see a comment about Range Rovers and reliability, I thank my lucky stars that I've been without problems for the last 3 cars and 14 years of ownership. My current FFRR is about to come out of warranty so I have been thinking about whether I should extend it or not!

I went to spec a new one but annoyingly the PHEV version are not ready to order until early 2022, nor are the prices being released yet. A comment in Harry Metcalfe's video also made me wonder whether there will be a big step up in price - the new battery is much larger than the previous model and this is bound to add to the price.

I do love the PHEV technology and it does suit my driving day to day, but there inevitably comes a price point when I'd probably be better off with the P400 or D350 versions.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Thursday 28th October 2021
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EdJ said:
Burwood said:
Hugely impressive on paper but will it be reliable. It’s a car to lust over if you want the best, and it might be just that. I really do hope it’s solid
Every time I see a comment about Range Rovers and reliability, I thank my lucky stars that I've been without problems for the last 3 cars and 14 years of ownership. My current FFRR is about to come out of warranty so I have been thinking about whether I should extend it or not!

I went to spec a new one but annoyingly the PHEV version are not ready to order until early 2022, nor are the prices being released yet. A comment in Harry Metcalfe's video also made me wonder whether there will be a big step up in price - the new battery is much larger than the previous model and this is bound to add to the price.

I do love the PHEV technology and it does suit my driving day to day, but there inevitably comes a price point when I'd probably be better off with the P400 or D350 versions.
All I can say is I haven't owned one (FFRR) because of the rumour/myth. Wife wanted an Evoque but didn't go there for the same reason. They can't all be bad but it's clear they have a higher number of problems than other marques. JLR executives have very recently said that they want to iron out the kinks in reliability. They still have a loyal customer following so there's something about them (positive). Like I said, I hope it's solid. I like it. A lot smile

cayman-black

12,646 posts

216 months

Monday 8th November 2021
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Burwood said:
All I can say is I haven't owned one (FFRR) because of the rumour/myth. Wife wanted an Evoque but didn't go there for the same reason. They can't all be bad but it's clear they have a higher number of problems than other marques. JLR executives have very recently said that they want to iron out the kinks in reliability. They still have a loyal customer following so there's something about them (positive). Like I said, I hope it's solid. I like it. A lot smile
That is a shame as you are missing out on a really special car. I have only had a couple of small issues with two out of my four owned.

bakerstreet

4,763 posts

165 months

Tuesday 9th November 2021
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Burwood said:
Hugely impressive on paper but will it be reliable. It’s a car to lust over if you want the best, and it might be just that. I really do hope it’s solid
Doubt it, its a LR. Leaks, engine issues. Will be the usual list I suspect.

However, this new RR is a stunning looking car. Best Interior they have produced in a long time IMO. I was never a massive fan of the L405's styling, but I much prefer this.

Also, look like they have managed to get some decent range out of the PHEV model.