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I ordered a Defender XS 250 in September, build slot 1st week December delivery should be December.
I rang LR today and it's still confirmed, I asked why I was 'lucky' and it was suggested I chose the right options, not sure what they are. This may change of course, a few weeks to go.
I rang LR today and it's still confirmed, I asked why I was 'lucky' and it was suggested I chose the right options, not sure what they are. This may change of course, a few weeks to go.
My RRS SVR has turned up at the dealer ahead of schedule which I am very surprised at, especially since I went for Yulong white which was expected to result in delays also. I was told at the time of order September that JLR was prioritizing higher spec cars due to part shortages. Just 5 weeks to wait until I get home to collect....
I’ve had a Defender carpathian on order since I believe June and was due next month only to be told yesterday there is now no delivery date allocated (at all) and expect to wait at best another 6 months!
Still, better than the Tesla model X ordered Oct 2020 with original delivery date of April 2021 and which is now ‘end of’ 2022! The defender was due to fill the gap before the X arrived so now I’m not really sure what to do. Amusingly the dealer have the exact spec Defender I ordered in stock with 500miles on the clock but want 27 grand more than the ‘new’ price!
Still, better than the Tesla model X ordered Oct 2020 with original delivery date of April 2021 and which is now ‘end of’ 2022! The defender was due to fill the gap before the X arrived so now I’m not really sure what to do. Amusingly the dealer have the exact spec Defender I ordered in stock with 500miles on the clock but want 27 grand more than the ‘new’ price!
More news from Land Rover.
Apparently my order will now be made as an MY23 spec and given priority for build once they start production. They also confirm my price won’t change for the MY23 version (how generous!). Not sure if there is much of a spec change as I don’t have a copy of the current discovery spec sheet, however I’m pretty sure terrain response 2 was standard before which isn’t now.
Still no build date but I’m told to expect March at the earliest as they should start to build early next year.
Apparently my order will now be made as an MY23 spec and given priority for build once they start production. They also confirm my price won’t change for the MY23 version (how generous!). Not sure if there is much of a spec change as I don’t have a copy of the current discovery spec sheet, however I’m pretty sure terrain response 2 was standard before which isn’t now.
Still no build date but I’m told to expect March at the earliest as they should start to build early next year.
champ54321 said:
More news from Land Rover.
Apparently my order will now be made as an MY23 spec and given priority for build once they start production. They also confirm my price won’t change for the MY23 version (how generous!). Not sure if there is much of a spec change as I don’t have a copy of the current discovery spec sheet, however I’m pretty sure terrain response 2 was standard before which isn’t now.
Still no build date but I’m told to expect March at the earliest as they should start to build early next year.
Terrain Response 2 hasn’t been standard spec for a while. I don’t think even the twin-speed transfer box has been standard for a while. Intelligent fold rear seats also now an option rather than standard. Apparently my order will now be made as an MY23 spec and given priority for build once they start production. They also confirm my price won’t change for the MY23 version (how generous!). Not sure if there is much of a spec change as I don’t have a copy of the current discovery spec sheet, however I’m pretty sure terrain response 2 was standard before which isn’t now.
Still no build date but I’m told to expect March at the earliest as they should start to build early next year.
Even the new top spec Metropolitan is short of some HSE Lux toys yet costs more. Still……less to go wrong (which it will - lots).
My D5 is going in a few weeks, good f
king riddance!Edit: Just to add as well; I read somewhere (can’t remember where) that if you don’t spec the D5 with the twin speed box it’s now no longer permanent 4x4 and works in the same way AWD cars do. So possibly 90/10 split torque rear / front. Don’t hold me to it as I could be wrong, but the D5 is no longer a serious off-roader as standard, it’s a school run family car.
Edited by Crumpet on Monday 29th November 21:06
Crumpet said:
champ54321 said:
More news from Land Rover.
Apparently my order will now be made as an MY23 spec and given priority for build once they start production. They also confirm my price won’t change for the MY23 version (how generous!). Not sure if there is much of a spec change as I don’t have a copy of the current discovery spec sheet, however I’m pretty sure terrain response 2 was standard before which isn’t now.
Still no build date but I’m told to expect March at the earliest as they should start to build early next year.
Terrain Response 2 hasn’t been standard spec for a while. I don’t think even the twin-speed transfer box has been standard for a while. Intelligent fold rear seats also now an option rather than standard. Apparently my order will now be made as an MY23 spec and given priority for build once they start production. They also confirm my price won’t change for the MY23 version (how generous!). Not sure if there is much of a spec change as I don’t have a copy of the current discovery spec sheet, however I’m pretty sure terrain response 2 was standard before which isn’t now.
Still no build date but I’m told to expect March at the earliest as they should start to build early next year.
Even the new top spec Metropolitan is short of some HSE Lux toys yet costs more. Still……less to go wrong (which it will - lots).
My D5 is going in a few weeks, good f
king riddance!Edit: Just to add as well; I read somewhere (can’t remember where) that if you don’t spec the D5 with the twin speed box it’s now no longer permanent 4x4 and works in the same way AWD cars do. So possibly 90/10 split torque rear / front. Don’t hold me to it as I could be wrong, but the D5 is no longer a serious off-roader as standard, it’s a school run family car.
Edited by Crumpet on Monday 29th November 21:06
ChocolateFrog said:
The most offroading I've ever seen a D5 do is deliver some fancy bogs to a clients back garden. It was on 23in wheels too, not sure if they were factory but it certainly didn't look designed to do proper offroading.
Well, I got my D5 stuck this morning. My mate in a little Suzuki Vitara made it look easy and had no issues. I am a crap off road driver, though. I’m being a bit harsh on the D5 here. Yes it’s badly made, yes mine has had so many problems I’ve lost count, yes Land Rover just fob you off with excuses, yes the rear looks like a dog’s dinner and no I wouldn’t have another.
But as a family car I actually think it’s unrivalled and it still does have that certain ‘something’ that big Land Rovers and Range Rovers have that no other manufacturer can replicate. It’s just that it’s now a family car that can go off road a bit further than an XC90.
I don’t think there will be another Discovery after the D5, even though it fills a niche. I think it’s just too small a niche now.
Crumpet said:
Terrain Response 2 hasn’t been standard spec for a while. I don’t think even the twin-speed transfer box has been standard for a while. Intelligent fold rear seats also now an option rather than standard.
Edit: Just to add as well; I read somewhere (can’t remember where) that if you don’t spec the D5 with the twin speed box it’s now no longer permanent 4x4 and works in the same way AWD cars do. So possibly 90/10 split torque rear / front. Don’t hold me to it as I could be wrong, but the D5 is no longer a serious off-roader as standard, it’s a school run family car.
I knew it didn’t come with the high low box, but for some reason in my head it still head terrain response. I could be wrong though. I did think about the high low box for reversing the trailer, however in the end i didn’t bother since I’ve managed without for the last few years.Edit: Just to add as well; I read somewhere (can’t remember where) that if you don’t spec the D5 with the twin speed box it’s now no longer permanent 4x4 and works in the same way AWD cars do. So possibly 90/10 split torque rear / front. Don’t hold me to it as I could be wrong, but the D5 is no longer a serious off-roader as standard, it’s a school run family car.
Edited by Crumpet on Monday 29th November 21:06
If you do find that article about the awd/4x4 thing please share it. I’ve done a search but came up blank.
In reality the disco is never going to do any serious off roading, just driving across fields which even my xc90 can manage. If I wanted a serious off roader I wouldn’t be spending £50k on it, I would buy something old and scrappy. Having done a lot of off roading over the years I know how damaged the trucks end up getting.
The nearest reference to it I can find is an Evo review where they state:
‘In six-cylinder models, the 4WD system is now able to actively shift power around the driveline on-road for improved efficiency, automatically re-engaging a more balanced power split when conditions demand.’
And on Land Rover’s website they refer to it as an AWD system, which they don’t on the Defender.
To be fair, I think Land Rover’s tech should be pretty hot anyway and I don’t think it’ll struggle for 99.9% of most peoples driving.
It’s a shame Land Rover always seem to release under-developed cars and then perfect them during their life cycle. I’d hope by now the face lifted D5 has had the niggles ironed out. My wife loves it and despite all the problems we were going to order another with the D300 (which is an absolute peach!). Then it developed more issues and LR weren’t interested in any goodwill discount despite 10+ warranty trips to the dealer. So, fk ‘em. I’ve bought something else.
If you get a good one you’ll love it. Far better than an XC90 when it’s working properly.
‘In six-cylinder models, the 4WD system is now able to actively shift power around the driveline on-road for improved efficiency, automatically re-engaging a more balanced power split when conditions demand.’
And on Land Rover’s website they refer to it as an AWD system, which they don’t on the Defender.
To be fair, I think Land Rover’s tech should be pretty hot anyway and I don’t think it’ll struggle for 99.9% of most peoples driving.
It’s a shame Land Rover always seem to release under-developed cars and then perfect them during their life cycle. I’d hope by now the face lifted D5 has had the niggles ironed out. My wife loves it and despite all the problems we were going to order another with the D300 (which is an absolute peach!). Then it developed more issues and LR weren’t interested in any goodwill discount despite 10+ warranty trips to the dealer. So, f
k ‘em. I’ve bought something else. If you get a good one you’ll love it. Far better than an XC90 when it’s working properly.
Interesting, I wonder if this is something LR have changed on the quiet. Looking on their site they now describe all discovery’s as AWD. However they also have the same description on the defender page, so maybe they are just using the terminology interchangeably as 99% of people won’t notice the difference.
‘When driving across low-traction surfaces such as ice and snow, torque can be balanced between the front and rear wheels, providing greater stability and control.’
The reliability and terrible LR service has always been a worry to us, however there are just so few ‘SUVs’ that do everything as well as a discovery (when it works). the xc90 has been ok but is no where near as refined as the new disco. Fingers crossed we don’t end up with another duff one…
‘When driving across low-traction surfaces such as ice and snow, torque can be balanced between the front and rear wheels, providing greater stability and control.’
The reliability and terrible LR service has always been a worry to us, however there are just so few ‘SUVs’ that do everything as well as a discovery (when it works). the xc90 has been ok but is no where near as refined as the new disco. Fingers crossed we don’t end up with another duff one…
Well, if it makes you feel any better, my Dad’s launch D5 was pretty reliable apart from a leaky light unit (that LR wouldn’t replace under warranty!) and a faulty tailgate (they all do that, Sir). And his new RRS has been spot on so far. My brother’s D5 has also been fault free, as was his Disco Sport before that.
You win or lose with LR, seemingly with no middle ground.
Good luck and enjoy!
You win or lose with LR, seemingly with no middle ground.
Good luck and enjoy!
champ54321 said:
We finally have some news! Build due for June and Delivery for July.
Hopefully it will be worth the wait
Same here, although the dealer phoned yesterday to say the car is now built and just awating 'final quality control' before they can release and provide an update on when I can expect to collect.. although likely end of this month or early July..! Hurrah, only ordered in May 2021 with an original build slot of 1st week in December... so now need to remind myself what spec i actually chose..!! Hopefully it will be worth the wait
I experienced similar delays in the build of my Velar D200 Edition.
Ordered in September (My 5th LR on the trot) with delivery scheduled for Feb/March. I got it two weeks ago. I was quite impressed at the speed I got it after build. Maybe a week from factory to my drive.
I was given the option to cancel when JLR decided to remove the digital dash. The dealer offered me a cracking deal for my 2020 Disco Sport HSE and a decent discount on the Velar, so cancelling would have been silly especially as they promised to honour the deal made months before. It ended up coming with the digital dash but the radar cruise was deleted. I knew about this when I ordered.
It only comes with one smart key with the other to follow, and I’ve noticed there’s no 12V socket in the boot. That’s annoying as we often carry a cool box in the summer.
On one visit, the dealer showed me the order screen for a defender. I can’t remember the details but there lots of “option unavailable” markers on the page.
I had considered selling it on for a profit but now I’ve got it I really like it despite the fact that there’s an annoying rattle in one of the doors.
Ordered in September (My 5th LR on the trot) with delivery scheduled for Feb/March. I got it two weeks ago. I was quite impressed at the speed I got it after build. Maybe a week from factory to my drive.
I was given the option to cancel when JLR decided to remove the digital dash. The dealer offered me a cracking deal for my 2020 Disco Sport HSE and a decent discount on the Velar, so cancelling would have been silly especially as they promised to honour the deal made months before. It ended up coming with the digital dash but the radar cruise was deleted. I knew about this when I ordered.
It only comes with one smart key with the other to follow, and I’ve noticed there’s no 12V socket in the boot. That’s annoying as we often carry a cool box in the summer.
On one visit, the dealer showed me the order screen for a defender. I can’t remember the details but there lots of “option unavailable” markers on the page.
I had considered selling it on for a profit but now I’ve got it I really like it despite the fact that there’s an annoying rattle in one of the doors.
Well I’m pleased to report that it finally arrived last week and it was worth the wait! Honestly it’s the best car I’ve ever owned and it trumps my previous xc90 by a country mile.
Other than only coming with one key I haven’t noticed any missing tech. I was also pleased to discover it came with radar cruise control which I wasn’t expecting (I probably hadn’t spotted it in the spec sheet).
Other than only coming with one key I haven’t noticed any missing tech. I was also pleased to discover it came with radar cruise control which I wasn’t expecting (I probably hadn’t spotted it in the spec sheet).
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 19th July 21:39
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