Evoque, Discovery & similar - what proportion are 2WD?
Discussion
andrewc2102 said:
Don't confuse Discovery with Discovery sport.
The Discovery is a full size Landrover based on the range rover platform, in the UK they all came with low range and are all 4WD and are properly off road capable.
The discovery Sport is the same transverse platform as Evoque and E-pace (rehashed ford) and these can come in front wheel drive only.
I think actually relatively little of them were specced in 2WD, and from what I recall it's only the very low power 163bhp version of the 2.0l diesel Ingenium that that was 2wd, as a general rule the 180bhp diesels should all be 4wd.
If you're viewing a car the sure fire way to check is to look under the back for a rear diff and driveshafts, if it has them its 4wd.
Not strictly true….I believe the D4 always came with low range but the D5 was and is dependent. I ordered a 2.0 petrol from new and was rather disappointed when it arrived with no low range ‘box. As such it was missing Rock Crawl mode and maybe others. I believe it’s now an optional extra on all the engines. Same for the RRS. The Discovery is a full size Landrover based on the range rover platform, in the UK they all came with low range and are all 4WD and are properly off road capable.
The discovery Sport is the same transverse platform as Evoque and E-pace (rehashed ford) and these can come in front wheel drive only.
I think actually relatively little of them were specced in 2WD, and from what I recall it's only the very low power 163bhp version of the 2.0l diesel Ingenium that that was 2wd, as a general rule the 180bhp diesels should all be 4wd.
If you're viewing a car the sure fire way to check is to look under the back for a rear diff and driveshafts, if it has them its 4wd.
Edited by andrewc2102 on Wednesday 8th March 12:15
Is the D150 Evoque not the 2wd one?
I see a few about with those horrible tiny multi spoke wheels on them.
I’ll go against the grain and say I like the DS.
Im going to get one hopefully next year for the OH, HSE luxury spec for all the toys and ignore the service schedule and get the oil changed much more often.
I see a few about with those horrible tiny multi spoke wheels on them.
I’ll go against the grain and say I like the DS.
Im going to get one hopefully next year for the OH, HSE luxury spec for all the toys and ignore the service schedule and get the oil changed much more often.
beagrizzly said:
Easternlight said:
I wonder what percentage of Evoque's ever get further off road than a grass car park?
I'd say close to zero. I don't think anyone that needs to ever go offroad would even consider it as an option. Although, to be fair, I've just been reading up on it and it does appear to have good clearance, entry and departure angles and a 50cm wading depth, so I dare say it'd be alright if needed, perhaps tyre dependent.
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camel_landy said:
beagrizzly said:
Easternlight said:
I wonder what percentage of Evoque's ever get further off road than a grass car park?
I'd say close to zero. I don't think anyone that needs to ever go offroad would even consider it as an option. Although, to be fair, I've just been reading up on it and it does appear to have good clearance, entry and departure angles and a 50cm wading depth, so I dare say it'd be alright if needed, perhaps tyre dependent.
M
Genuinely interested. I spend a lot of time amongst 4x4s being off road, and I've yet to see an Evoque on anything softer than tarmac. Also yet to see a Velar off the road. Feels like wasted capability.
beagrizzly said:
Do you have first-hand experience of it off-road?
Genuinely interested. I spend a lot of time amongst 4x4s being off road, and I've yet to see an Evoque on anything softer than tarmac. Also yet to see a Velar off the road. Feels like wasted capability.
I did the Land Rover experience day when I got my DS, the instructor said they were very capable off road but they didn't get many owners taking them up on the half day off-roading experience you get with your new Land Rover, and that he had never seen any Velar owners take up the offer. Genuinely interested. I spend a lot of time amongst 4x4s being off road, and I've yet to see an Evoque on anything softer than tarmac. Also yet to see a Velar off the road. Feels like wasted capability.
This was at their Rockingham Castle venue (but we went to a local 4x4 quarry, the same one they did the famous Top Gear Bowler Wildcat feature), so it could well be a regional thing that the local Velar owners didn't take LR up on the offer!
beagrizzly said:
camel_landy said:
beagrizzly said:
Easternlight said:
I wonder what percentage of Evoque's ever get further off road than a grass car park?
I'd say close to zero. I don't think anyone that needs to ever go offroad would even consider it as an option. Although, to be fair, I've just been reading up on it and it does appear to have good clearance, entry and departure angles and a 50cm wading depth, so I dare say it'd be alright if needed, perhaps tyre dependent.
M
Genuinely interested. I spend a lot of time amongst 4x4s being off road, and I've yet to see an Evoque on anything softer than tarmac. Also yet to see a Velar off the road. Feels like wasted capability.
knk said:
A couple of us use them supporting P2P races. They are pretty capable on muddy rutted tracks that would confound other cars. Mine does all I ask it to do and for the 90% of the time I am on-road is a very comfortable place to be.
Nice. Where do you do that? I used to go to P2P a lot, but haven't for ages. Been trying for the last couple of years but they keep clashing with other commitments. I'm in NW Wilts.I did the complimentary half day LR experience when I got my Evoque, but chose to do it in a FFRR because it was the biggest there.
We followed an Evoque on the course, the instructor said they can do pretty much everything the others in the range could do.
Person in way of showing wheel sticking up
We followed an Evoque on the course, the instructor said they can do pretty much everything the others in the range could do.
Person in way of showing wheel sticking up
beagrizzly said:
CraigyMc said:
beagrizzly said:
CraigyMc said:
that sucks balls.
Why?2WD reduces it to all mouth and no trousers staus.
The defender is basically a tractor, but with worse panel gaps than a tractor. Love them.
CraigyMc said:
I only ever really drive defender 90s offroad, but when I do it's wading through deep water, driving onto seesaws and the like.
The defender is basically a tractor, but with worse panel gaps than a tractor. Love them.
I assume you don't mean the current Defender?The defender is basically a tractor, but with worse panel gaps than a tractor. Love them.
I had a 'proper' one once upon a time. Great fun off road, though I have to say, every other 4x4 I've had has come with more lockers as standard. I used to get cross-axled far too often when pushing it too hard and/or not paying attention (most likely the latter)
beagrizzly said:
CraigyMc said:
I only ever really drive defender 90s offroad, but when I do it's wading through deep water, driving onto seesaws and the like.
The defender is basically a tractor, but with worse panel gaps than a tractor. Love them.
I assume you don't mean the current Defender?The defender is basically a tractor, but with worse panel gaps than a tractor. Love them.
beagrizzly said:
I had a 'proper' one once upon a time. Great fun off road, though I have to say, every other 4x4 I've had has come with more lockers as standard. I used to get cross-axled far too often when pushing it too hard and/or not paying attention (most likely the latter)
I'm mostly trundling about on the bedford autodrome 4x4 course during palmers days. A bit of farming stuff in North Wales towing *ahem* lots, but that's not as recent.camel_landy said:
beagrizzly said:
There seems to a common misconception that ALL LR/RR are 4WD.
Until a few years ago, that's what it used to be... Well, other than a small batch of early Range Rovers, built for the Italian police.It's also something LR used in their marketing material.
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Bobupndown said:
camel_landy said:
beagrizzly said:
There seems to a common misconception that ALL LR/RR are 4WD.
Until a few years ago, that's what it used to be... Well, other than a small batch of early Range Rovers, built for the Italian police.It's also something LR used in their marketing material.
M
Got any more details?
M
camel_landy said:
Bobupndown said:
camel_landy said:
beagrizzly said:
There seems to a common misconception that ALL LR/RR are 4WD.
Until a few years ago, that's what it used to be... Well, other than a small batch of early Range Rovers, built for the Italian police.It's also something LR used in their marketing material.
M
Got any more details?
M
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