Oh dear my LR dilema

Oh dear my LR dilema

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CHURCH

165 posts

223 months

Saturday 25th August 2007
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Yep:

http://www.defender50th.co.uk/

I had one of these for a little while and absolutely loved it, but would I have it as my only car.......probably not unless I was only doing low mileage and didn't need to carry passengers on a regular basis. I've driven 07 Defender and still have yet to find anything better than the 50th, the V8/auto combination is superb.

BLUETHUNDER

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7,881 posts

261 months

Saturday 25th August 2007
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Thanks for that.My intentions was to use it every day.Can you give me some of your experiances with it.?

GreenLandy

1,635 posts

232 months

Saturday 25th August 2007
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In the couple of years I worked in a 4wd garage we took loads of LPG kits off. I'm sure some of them are great but in my experience I've never seen a good one.

BLUETHUNDER

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7,881 posts

261 months

Saturday 25th August 2007
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Well im going to have a look at one during the week.I will have to take the wife with me,as although she likes them a lot,she doesnt think it will be suitable as a family car.She said the RR will fit the bill.Whats pushing the 90 for me most is the saving in repair bills compared to a RR,also the rarity of it.

CHURCH

165 posts

223 months

Saturday 25th August 2007
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I agree with Greelandy I've never had any luck with LPG systems on anything I've owned. As I said you cannot fail to love the 50th, it drives well in terms of its got enough power and the gearbox is smooth, its strangely quiet inside for a Defender and ride quality also seems better than diesel versions but might be my imagination! So to drive every day all those factors are in its favour. The down side is your still going to suffer with Land Rover elbow, although as there is no central bulkhead leg room is fine (I'm 6"3), and those seats in the back are no good except for very small people or short trips. MPG was low teens, around 12-15 but could do single figures if you cane it or drive flat out on motorway. Reliability/running costs are a mixture between standard Defender and RR Classic. The 4.0 engine can suffer with typical V8 problems with head gaskets and obviously the electronics controlling it can go wrong. The rest of the drive train should be very reliable if its been serviced. Compared to the L322 your looking at it'll be peanuts to run in servicing/repairs. L322 eats diffs at over £1000 a pop every 30/40k, not to mention all the other items that can go bang! HTH.

BLUETHUNDER

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7,881 posts

261 months

Saturday 25th August 2007
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Regarding the transmission,how smooth is it between changes?It just seems that every Defender i have driven seem a bit clunky on the gear changes.Im expecting this to be a bit different on the Auto? And would you be able to get a baby seat on those rear seats?.One last question.You say its quiet inside,but how quiet,compared to a normal Defender?Thanks once again.

w1how

1,502 posts

216 months

Sunday 26th August 2007
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BLUETHUNDER said:
Regarding the transmission,how smooth is it between changes?It just seems that every Defender i have driven seem a bit clunky on the gear changes.Im expecting this to be a bit different on the Auto? And would you be able to get a baby seat on those rear seats?.One last question.You say its quiet inside,but how quiet,compared to a normal Defender?Thanks once again.
New laws make it illegal to attach a child seat to a side facing rear seat hence the new defender having all forward facing seats.

BLUETHUNDER

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7,881 posts

261 months

Sunday 26th August 2007
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Oh s**t.Is there no way around this?

Furyous

23,622 posts

222 months

Sunday 26th August 2007
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Havnt you bought it yet ? wink

Al W

591 posts

228 months

Sunday 26th August 2007
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BLUETHUNDER said:
Oh s**t.Is there no way around this?
Exmoor Trim offer forward facing rear seats which are legal for child seats:
http://www.exmoortrim.co.uk/erol.html

You could store the original seats for when they're older, but you'll only have a 4 seater.
I haven't tried them, but am looking for a LR and have the same problem

Cheers,
Al

CHURCH

165 posts

223 months

Sunday 26th August 2007
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Gearbox is a ZF unit so changes as smoothly as your old P38, again this is as long as its been well maintained and doesn't have knackered U/J's, diffs etc. Noise levels are certainly acceptable and you can hold a conversation easily! I found it overall to be comparable to a Range Rover classic in terms of noise, performance and ride. Oh dear all this talk about the 50th has made me now think about getting another one scratchchin

BLUETHUNDER

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7,881 posts

261 months

Sunday 26th August 2007
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Furyous said:
Havnt you bought it yet ? wink
No going to have a look at one this week.Its what the wife thinks that will tip the balance.Im stuck because i really want a new RR,but love the look and rarity of the 50th.I could also do without the maintainance costs of the L322.CHURCH has been very helpful in his knowledge.He,s given me some idea of what to expect.

BLUETHUNDER

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7,881 posts

261 months

Thursday 30th August 2007
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Well i went, Ive seen, and I've conquered.Im now the owner of a 50th Anniversary model.I will post pics in about tree weeks time when ive picked it up.Now to Advertise the 110 E.O.D Defender

touching cloth

11,706 posts

240 months

Thursday 30th August 2007
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Cool thumbup - what are you going to do about the rear seat issue?

BLUETHUNDER

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7,881 posts

261 months

Thursday 30th August 2007
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Well they wanted £1200 to put front facing seats inyikes so im just going to mount a three point harness on to one of the existing seats and take a chance.The windows will have a tint to them anyway.I will probably have a RR in November as well,but seeing this today,then taking it for a drive won me over.The auto box was so smooth,and there is aircon as well.That actually works really well.

Edited by BLUETHUNDER on Thursday 30th August 20:54

Furyous

23,622 posts

222 months

Thursday 30th August 2007
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clap

Well done that man !

They had one when I was looking, but I had to have the Tdi for daily use, but I love the 50th's.

Enjoy.

a4dbl

19 posts

244 months

Friday 31st August 2007
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yes at www.defender50th.co.uk.I have a 50th it is brilliant but the fuel consumption v bad.I recenttly purchased a morgan and can go for a spin of say 125 miles for 10 quid;if I did that in the 90 it would be nearer £50.The engine sound of the 90 with windows and flaps open makes it worth it --well just.

a4dbl

19 posts

244 months

Friday 31st August 2007
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sorry about last post did not see we had two pages

BLUETHUNDER

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7,881 posts

261 months

Friday 31st August 2007
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a4dbl said:
yes at www.defender50th.co.uk.I have a 50th it is brilliant but the fuel consumption v bad.I recenttly purchased a morgan and can go for a spin of say 125 miles for 10 quid;if I did that in the 90 it would be nearer £50.The engine sound of the 90 with windows and flaps open makes it worth it --well just.
I already checked your profile yesterday,and noticed you had a 50.What sort of MPG can i expect?Cant be as bad as my last 4.6?.I was in the market for a new RR,and still am.But i was really bowled over by this yesterday.And its different to what you see mostly on the roads.

CHURCH

165 posts

223 months

Friday 31st August 2007
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thumbup Awesome choice, is it the one you posted pics of?