New machine not doing what it is ment to.
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garyhun said:
So what was the outcome of the visit from the Chineses OP?
Well, its taken 2 days of head scratching, but I think we are there, cut 7 wheels this morning and every single one looks fantastic.Appeared to be a mixture of two things, the "thing that auto tightens the drive belts" wasn't doing what it should have been, so the wheel, when being cut, wasn't turning at a regular speed.
Also the "software" was a bit messed up, they reloaded it, we had a good clear out of all the files we had stored on the machine, this was causing it to cut uneven.
There may have been other things wrong, the guys from China took every access panel off, just about every wire and switch off and lots lots more, it was hard to keep track of what they were doing as everything was done through the translator.
It does, for now appear to be doing what it is designed and built to do, so I am for now a happy wheel repairer.
As always huge thanks to the PH massive, for all your help, ideas and pointers. Yet again this place has come good.
That's a good outcome, let's hope it stays that working.
Coincidentally, I used to do R&D for a Japanese firm many years ago, they sent us a piece of equipment that we couldn't get working so a few weeks later they sent their R&D guy over.
Unfortunately he didn't speak a word of English and we didn't speak a word of Japanese, nobody thought to bring a translator and it was way before things like online translators had ever been invented.
He fixed in about 3 hours with lots of parts and components being swapped over, we never did work out how he got it working or even if it was our fault in the first place?!
One hell of a service call out.
Coincidentally, I used to do R&D for a Japanese firm many years ago, they sent us a piece of equipment that we couldn't get working so a few weeks later they sent their R&D guy over.
Unfortunately he didn't speak a word of English and we didn't speak a word of Japanese, nobody thought to bring a translator and it was way before things like online translators had ever been invented.
He fixed in about 3 hours with lots of parts and components being swapped over, we never did work out how he got it working or even if it was our fault in the first place?!
One hell of a service call out.
honestbob said:
Glad it's now doing it's job properly. What speed, feed and depth of cut is now being used compared to what you were using? Any changes to the tooling and any other mechanical changes ?
Nope, no changes at all, same tip, holder and turret.Cutting between 500-600 rpm, between 0.1-0.2 depth, and feed speed dependant on what finish we want.
My 2 lads are like a dog with 2 cocks today, it was really getting them down, thinking they were not doing it right.
Quattromaster said:
JKRolling said:
Sorry for trying to offer helpful advice and yes my username is a play on words between JK of jamiriqui and the author. The former being a car nut.
That has certainly taught me a lesson in not having an opinion to voice on here in future
I welcomed your advice pal, I did drop you an email via PH yesterday, did you get it. I was after some advice on tips, though since then we have tried some really cheap tips and got pretty much the same result as with the all singing, all dancing diamond carbide thingy ma jigs. So I don't think it's a problem with the tips.That has certainly taught me a lesson in not having an opinion to voice on here in future
Quattromaster said:
garyhun said:
So what was the outcome of the visit from the Chineses OP?
Well, its taken 2 days of head scratching, but I think we are there, cut 7 wheels this morning and every single one looks fantastic.Appeared to be a mixture of two things, the "thing that auto tightens the drive belts" wasn't doing what it should have been, so the wheel, when being cut, wasn't turning at a regular speed.
Also the "software" was a bit messed up, they reloaded it, we had a good clear out of all the files we had stored on the machine, this was causing it to cut uneven.
There may have been other things wrong, the guys from China took every access panel off, just about every wire and switch off and lots lots more, it was hard to keep track of what they were doing as everything was done through the translator.
It does, for now appear to be doing what it is designed and built to do, so I am for now a happy wheel repairer.
As always huge thanks to the PH massive, for all your help, ideas and pointers. Yet again this place has come good.
All that jazz said:
Quattromaster said:
As always huge thanks to the PH massive, for all your help, ideas and pointers. Yet again this place has come good.
So in short, free wheel refurbs all round, to show your gratitude? 
Quattromaster said:
anonymous said:
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Did the wife's SLK alloys on Friday, slight change to the normal Mercedes brilliant silver, went with Tenorite Grey on the inserts, which is colour of the car, very happy with the result, 
carlpea said:
I imagine a lot of programming goes into refurbishing those wheels since they aren't flat?
No more than most other alloys to be honest, approx 20 mins to plot/probe and optimise a wheel, then about 15 mins to cut it. Once we have built up a database of wheels I'm looking at 4-5 alloys per hr.
Quattromaster said:
Did the wife's SLK alloys on Friday, slight change to the normal Mercedes brilliant silver, went with Tenorite Grey on the inserts, which is colour of the car, very happy with the result,
They look awesome. I assume you won't be letting her drive it now the new wheels are on? 
AyBee said:
They look awesome. I assume you won't be letting her drive it now the new wheels are on?
To be fair , the NSR alloy in the pictures is the only one she has kerbed in 3 yrs so I can't grumble.The wheels are safe for at least the next month as she is recovering from a major op and isn't allowed to drive.
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