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Another day, another client request...
Guy asks for virtual tours, no problem, I know a guy. But this isn't a virtual photography tour he wants, it's a 3D rendition of a development not built yet.
I really should have said no, but if there's a chance of making a few quid...
But what/who am I looking for and what sort of money is involved? It's a twenty room development, I can't imagine it'll be cheap!
Guy asks for virtual tours, no problem, I know a guy. But this isn't a virtual photography tour he wants, it's a 3D rendition of a development not built yet.
I really should have said no, but if there's a chance of making a few quid...
But what/who am I looking for and what sort of money is involved? It's a twenty room development, I can't imagine it'll be cheap!
technodup said:
Another day, another client request...
Guy asks for virtual tours, no problem, I know a guy. But this isn't a virtual photography tour he wants, it's a 3D rendition of a development not built yet.
I really should have said no, but if there's a chance of making a few quid...
But what/who am I looking for and what sort of money is involved? It's a twenty room development, I can't imagine it'll be cheap!
Your looking for someone who can create photo realistic unbuilt spaces. It can be expensive.Guy asks for virtual tours, no problem, I know a guy. But this isn't a virtual photography tour he wants, it's a 3D rendition of a development not built yet.
I really should have said no, but if there's a chance of making a few quid...
But what/who am I looking for and what sort of money is involved? It's a twenty room development, I can't imagine it'll be cheap!
Are you looking to do it yourself or find someone else who can do it for you?
Complex.
The whole interior will need to be built as a wireframe, then textured, then lit then animated.
The camera POV will then have to be set so the viewer can travel through a pre determined route. That's if you are sticking to a script. Also consider if it needs a voiceover retrospectively recording & applying.
From here, it could get even more complex. For example, if the user wants to be able to control the view interactively (you want to look up at the ceiling or down at the floor) or you are passing by windows which need authentic views through them. Then the voiceover needs to be adjusted to suit.
Probably will require consultation with a web developer who will advise the best output formats as it will need to work for the slowest engine, whether that's an iPad, surface pro, mobile phone etc.
Depending on who does it, a highly finished version could be in the region of £1000 per second of final footage. Most of that is front loaded for preparation but to do a photo-realistic sequence justice, you could be looking at 30 - 60 seconds.
No doubt cheaper options would be available but then you could reduce the quality.
As has been said, C4D or possibly 3D Studio max would be good solutions.
The whole interior will need to be built as a wireframe, then textured, then lit then animated.
The camera POV will then have to be set so the viewer can travel through a pre determined route. That's if you are sticking to a script. Also consider if it needs a voiceover retrospectively recording & applying.
From here, it could get even more complex. For example, if the user wants to be able to control the view interactively (you want to look up at the ceiling or down at the floor) or you are passing by windows which need authentic views through them. Then the voiceover needs to be adjusted to suit.
Probably will require consultation with a web developer who will advise the best output formats as it will need to work for the slowest engine, whether that's an iPad, surface pro, mobile phone etc.
Depending on who does it, a highly finished version could be in the region of £1000 per second of final footage. Most of that is front loaded for preparation but to do a photo-realistic sequence justice, you could be looking at 30 - 60 seconds.
No doubt cheaper options would be available but then you could reduce the quality.
As has been said, C4D or possibly 3D Studio max would be good solutions.
Do you have access to 2D plans of the structure?
What sort of result is the client looking for - whilst managing expectations!! i.e. ask them to let you know what sort of thing they are looking for and what they want to do with it once it is completed.. e.g. is Google Sketchup a possible route to completion?
timescale?
What sort of result is the client looking for - whilst managing expectations!! i.e. ask them to let you know what sort of thing they are looking for and what they want to do with it once it is completed.. e.g. is Google Sketchup a possible route to completion?
timescale?
Thanks all. Instinctively it sounded 1) complex and 2) expensive. I think he's going to get quite the shock.
He mentioned software you could do it yourself but I can imagine how long that would take to get anywhere near pro quality...
Anyone able to take a ballpark stab at £ for 5 modern flats of 4 rooms each?
He mentioned software you could do it yourself but I can imagine how long that would take to get anywhere near pro quality...
Anyone able to take a ballpark stab at £ for 5 modern flats of 4 rooms each?
technodup said:
Thanks all. Instinctively it sounded 1) complex and 2) expensive. I think he's going to get quite the shock.
He mentioned software you could do it yourself but I can imagine how long that would take to get anywhere near pro quality...
Anyone able to take a ballpark stab at £ for 5 modern flats of 4 rooms each?
What is the starting point? A blank canvas or do yo have access to the 2D drawings? That would make a massive difference to the price. Are the 5 flats similar in style/layout or all different?He mentioned software you could do it yourself but I can imagine how long that would take to get anywhere near pro quality...
Anyone able to take a ballpark stab at £ for 5 modern flats of 4 rooms each?
ETA : there isn't enough information to give a decent quote. Without enough information everyone will either not quote or quote high.
Edited by eps on Monday 19th September 17:08
eps said:
What is the starting point? A blank canvas or do yo have access to the 2D drawings? That would make a massive difference to the price. Are the 5 flats similar in style/layout or all different?
ETA : there isn't enough information to give a decent quote. Without enough information everyone will either not quote or quote high.
The architect could already have a 3D model, Plenty of smaller practices use AutoCAD architecture, Revit or the like these days. ETA : there isn't enough information to give a decent quote. Without enough information everyone will either not quote or quote high.
Edited by eps on Monday 19th September 17:08
plasticpig said:
eps said:
What is the starting point? A blank canvas or do yo have access to the 2D drawings? That would make a massive difference to the price. Are the 5 flats similar in style/layout or all different?
ETA : there isn't enough information to give a decent quote. Without enough information everyone will either not quote or quote high.
The architect could already have a 3D model, Plenty of smaller practices use AutoCAD architecture, Revit or the like these days. ETA : there isn't enough information to give a decent quote. Without enough information everyone will either not quote or quote high.
Edited by eps on Monday 19th September 17:08
I know its not the modern techno solution you're really looking for but depending on the level of detail required and if as others have said all the flats have the same layout them the old tech, build a full size mock up in a warehouse out of board and paint might be a solution. I'm sure a team of film or theatre set builders could do what you need for a fraction of the costs quoted. Then walk through it with a digital steady-cam to produce the images.
http://franklingruppe.com/animation
residential showreel animation, first one
A bit like the above? That's one of ours, I could talk you through it, haven't got time to write out decent explanation but been doing it for years
residential showreel animation, first one
A bit like the above? That's one of ours, I could talk you through it, haven't got time to write out decent explanation but been doing it for years
http://www.wonder-vision.com/ - A client of mine based in Henley. They do exactly this kind of stuff very well.
jonamv8 said:
http://franklingruppe.com/animation
residential showreel animation, first one
A bit like the above? That's one of ours, I could talk you through it, haven't got time to write out decent explanation but been doing it for years
Great stuff - very impressive.residential showreel animation, first one
A bit like the above? That's one of ours, I could talk you through it, haven't got time to write out decent explanation but been doing it for years
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