GDPR - anyone working in this area?
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With regards to data protection, we have 4 pc's here, do I need to subscribe to a proper firewall service or will Windows Defender be OK? Should I get something like Norton for the computers? I've looked at the Cyber Essentials page and it does mention Defender.
Also, any recommendations of back up solutions? I was thinking perhaps subscribing to iDrive?
Also, any recommendations of back up solutions? I was thinking perhaps subscribing to iDrive?
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Thanks, good news about Defender and I wasn't keen to use Norton! With regards to files, it's only artwork for customer files (we're engravers). My folders are only 8gb, perhaps allow another 8gb for other files and that would be fine. We use Xero for our accounts so it should be all secured up there in the cloud and GDPR'd for me from Xero.
Can you back up multiple pc's on One Drive? I'll go look - no need to answer thank you. Will check out Datto too.
Thanks again
Am i as a data controller (reluctantly) going to need to register with ICO and pay a fee?
Is the fee a one off or yearly?
This is getting daft now. I work with many clients and not one thinks this is a good thing and all have been responsible to date with data.
Work in IT so data is at centre of our business and central to our work with clients so id say im well placed to comment.
P1553d off with this now my inbox is full of gdpr every day, having to resign terms docs or lose service or placate worried clients
Thanks ICO - great work by the public sector AGAIN.
Is the fee a one off or yearly?
This is getting daft now. I work with many clients and not one thinks this is a good thing and all have been responsible to date with data.
Work in IT so data is at centre of our business and central to our work with clients so id say im well placed to comment.
P1553d off with this now my inbox is full of gdpr every day, having to resign terms docs or lose service or placate worried clients
Thanks ICO - great work by the public sector AGAIN.
jonamv8 said:
Gdpr has so far only succeeded in a load more unwanted emails being distributed, that and confusing the hell out of 99% of small business owners
The irony of sending an email to ask if you can send another email ..... ffs
We are being set up, SMES especially
Set up for what? fines? The regulator wants people to get better control of their data, no mass data police will be unleashed.The irony of sending an email to ask if you can send another email ..... ffs
We are being set up, SMES especially
jonamv8 said:
Am i as a data controller (reluctantly) going to need to register with ICO and pay a fee?
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Is the fee a one off or yearly?
jonamv8 said:
This is getting daft now
I take data privacy/security very seriously but I feel the real culprits here are the big firms selling my info, not SMEs!
I know we've had two years but to be honest, I'd only heard of it in the last month or so when they started advertising it on the radio. I know this is probably my fault but I'm pretty sure that was the first I'd heard of it.
Out of interest, where did you first hear of it and was it in a place that very small business are likely to have seen it?
Out of interest, where did you first hear of it and was it in a place that very small business are likely to have seen it?
jonamv8 said:
Gdpr has so far only succeeded in a load more unwanted emails being distributed, that and confusing the hell out of 99% of small business owners
The irony of sending an email to ask if you can send another email ..... ffs
We are being set up, SMES especially
Whilst I was a little cynical at first I don't think that's true.The irony of sending an email to ask if you can send another email ..... ffs
We are being set up, SMES especially
The ICO has made it very clear they don't intend fining people lightly.
However if you're a business of any size and you take my personal data and don't give a s
t how or where you store it, that isn't right.If GDPR helps ensure businesses are doing sensible things, that they should be doing to begin with, that's a good thing in the long run.
silobass said:
....Out of interest, where did you first hear of it and was it in a place that very small business are likely to have seen it?
I first picked up on it when they were doing the countdown to GDPR becoming law in 2016. There was a number of media articles about how this will change the world of marketing. DELETED: Comment made by a member who's account has been deleted.
Whilst I agree that GDPR is a good idea in principal. There are a few issues I have with it. In particularGuidelines on consent under Regulation 2016/679 said:
A mobile app for photo editing asks its users to have their GPS localisation activated for the use of its services.
The app also tells its users it will use the collected data for behavioural advertising purposes. Neither geolocalisation
or online behavioural advertising are necessary for the provision of the photo editing service and
go beyond the delivery of the core service provided. Since users cannot use the app without consenting to these
purposes, the consent cannot be considered as being freely given.
This quite frankly is bThe app also tells its users it will use the collected data for behavioural advertising purposes. Neither geolocalisation
or online behavioural advertising are necessary for the provision of the photo editing service and
go beyond the delivery of the core service provided. Since users cannot use the app without consenting to these
purposes, the consent cannot be considered as being freely given.
ks. The user will often have the option of not receiving any adverts at all by paying for the app. A developer cant restrict functionality of the app for people who don't agree to opt in or opt out at a later stage because that is classed as detriment. From the developer perspective targeted behavioral and location based advertising achieves a significantly higher click through rate as apposed to non targeted adverts so they make more money from the app.
So in the EU world users can have their cake and eat it too.
Now that my inbox is getting filled with tedious GDPR requests to opt-in, opt-out, view pages of boring policy etc I can't help feel that this is going to damage email marketing beyond repair. Targeted emails must still be one of the most affective ways of generating sales, so anyone who's relying on this is surely going to take a hit - initially at least. Or will it all just carry on as before once the dust settles?
Bikerjon said:
Now that my inbox is getting filled with tedious GDPR requests to opt-in, opt-out, view pages of boring policy etc I can't help feel that this is going to damage email marketing beyond repair. Targeted emails must still be one of the most affective ways of generating sales, so anyone who's relying on this is surely going to take a hit - initially at least. Or will it all just carry on as before once the dust settles?
Another problem with these GDPR emails is that the spammers and virus paddlers have jumped in on them already, and I'm seeing fake "GDPR Opt In" emails which have virus payloads or links to sites to harvest your details. Some even offering competition prizes for "filling in your details and continuing to stay on our email communications list". You've got to have your wits about you.Bikerjon said:
Now that my inbox is getting filled with tedious GDPR requests to opt-in, opt-out, view pages of boring policy etc I can't help feel that this is going to damage email marketing beyond repair. Targeted emails must still be one of the most affective ways of generating sales, so anyone who's relying on this is surely going to take a hit - initially at least. Or will it all just carry on as before once the dust settles?
Yes and no.If you're doing things right already (confirmed opt-in) you've probably already taken a hit.
I agree people are lazy and often forget or just can't be bothered to click the link.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: If you're doing things right already (confirmed opt-in) you've probably already taken a hit.
The deluge of opt-ins/outs has only really started in the last few weeks though hasn't it? I imagine any business that relies on email marketing would be holding off sending the opt-in email until as late as possible because they must know that their once precious email list is going to shrink massively as soon as they send it. I wouldn't like to be in the email marketing business right now...Hoofy said:
Wait a sec. Fee? What? Where?
And what are the benefits of the GDPR to me as a small business owner? I have already put about 3 hours of unpaid work into this. I'm hoping to spend more money and time for no gain whatsoever.
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Edited by Hoofy on Wednesday 2nd May 10:44
Benefits - so none, really, then. I can't see my customers choosing me over another based on my GDPR compliance. And I have not even given it a thought when buying or signing up to stuff in the last two years.
I have already been compliant with DPA etc.
I've looked at the test for registering.
(Found it via the fees section.)Corporate wellbeing training is what I do.
Bikerjon said:
The deluge of opt-ins/outs has only really started in the last few weeks though hasn't it? I imagine any business that relies on email marketing would be holding off sending the opt-in email until as late as possible because they must know that their once precious email list is going to shrink massively as soon as they send it. I wouldn't like to be in the email marketing business right now...
In many cases yes, but my point was that if you're running mailing lists properly you're already doing confirmed opt-in so you've already done this exercise once, lots of companies did it a few years back with some other directive the name of which escapes me.You're right lists will shrink but.
silobass said:
I know we've had two years but to be honest, I'd only heard of it in the last month or so when they started advertising it on the radio. I know this is probably my fault but I'm pretty sure that was the first I'd heard of it.
Out of interest, where did you first hear of it and was it in a place that very small business are likely to have seen it?
Agreed on this point.Out of interest, where did you first hear of it and was it in a place that very small business are likely to have seen it?
Where was the letter and info pack sent out to all businesses to notify and advice on the official position???
Workplace Pensions Contributions were handled far better
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