Are coffee shops actually viable?

Are coffee shops actually viable?

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fellatthefirst

586 posts

155 months

Saturday 28th December 2019
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Coffee shops are definitely viable of course they are...but I feel with them the location is absolutely key. It’s so so important to the success or failure. An independent coffee shop opened on my housing estate a year ago and it’s been a roaring success. Really busy all the time but there are hundreds of new homes being built so a lot of people around who fancy a coffee without having to travel to town. It’s a good coffee shop as well (that helps) the coffee is amazing, service really friendly and they do some nice locally made cakes and a little bit of hot food and alcohol too. It’s got quite a community feel to it. As I say though it’s all about the location. This is where costa are so strong.

rustyuk

4,578 posts

211 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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I live in a nice tourist town so lots of coffee shops. At last count I believe 50% are for sale.

Costa is always busy, a chap opened a coffee shop next door to them and he lasted 6 months. My son (secondary school age) and his friends always go to Costa to meet-up, they never meet in one of the independents.

My Mrs toyed with the idea but you do need to open all weekends and bank holidays if in a tourist or busy town location.



oddball1313

1,194 posts

123 months

Saturday 4th January 2020
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Have a decent and creative kids menu rather than the usual run of the mill junk most places do, will definitely help pull punters in.

That said my nearest town (Oakham) has more coffee shops than you can shake a stick at, pretty sure some won't survive 2020 as there are just too many

His Lordship

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2,344 posts

170 months

Monday 6th January 2020
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oddball1313 said:
Have a decent and creative kids menu rather than the usual run of the mill junk most places do, will definitely help pull punters in.
The problem there is that at what point do you just call it a cafe? I would say a "Coffee shop" was more about the sitting/chatting/coffee/snack than the full dining experience...

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

252 months

Monday 6th January 2020
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A client of mine (financial planning) owns a coffee shop in a perfect little posh town for such things. They made their wealth elsewhere, this won't make you rich.

If it's viable to run one....coke money will be there via Costa (or Starbucks) and they are just hard to beat. People think they will gain from the "family feel indy" vibe against the big nasty chain but Costa have really nailed the right image in the UK. People don't see them like a McDonalds V a indy cafe. Costa are regarded as a nice place to go and sit and chill and chat......maybe even MORE SO than an indy where you feel like you're taking up space if you stay too long V Costa which is almost built around people sitting and spending time.

Not to mention the zillion Costa Express machines and having their own beans in the supply chain.....VERY hard to beat.

We have a retirement fantasy of running a cafe/coffee shop......but seeing what I've seen, it's staying a fun fantasy.

gifdy

2,073 posts

241 months

Monday 6th January 2020
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I always wondered how a cycling based coffee shop would do. Of course you need to be on a main cycling route ( or create a bunch of Strava segments near you ! ) but the client base would be ideal. Quick coffee - energy drink, cake or flapjack then off again. Sell energy gels/inner tubes etc as a sideline.

No hogging of seats nursing a skinny latte all day. You could have an espresso bar/window with stools for the quick stoppers. Equip with some tools and bike stands, call it something 'bikey' and job done.

My consultancy rates are very reasonable biggrin

Mr Overheads

2,440 posts

176 months

Monday 6th January 2020
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gifdy said:
I always wondered how a cycling based coffee shop would do. Of course you need to be on a main cycling route ( or create a bunch of Strava segments near you ! ) but the client base would be ideal. Quick coffee - energy drink, cake or flapjack then off again. Sell energy gels/inner tubes etc as a sideline.

No hogging of seats nursing a skinny latte all day. You could have an espresso bar/window with stools for the quick stoppers. Equip with some tools and bike stands, call it something 'bikey' and job done.

My consultancy rates are very reasonable biggrin
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