Coronavirus Grants
Discussion
Prolex-UK said:
Based on how we deal with this mismatch in vo description and actual usage you should be ok.
Just email them explaning what you do with links ti your website maybe a note from your accoyntant.
I eould also cc your councillor in and mention number of staff you employ
Let me know how you get on
Will do, thank you. Just email them explaning what you do with links ti your website maybe a note from your accoyntant.
I eould also cc your councillor in and mention number of staff you employ
Let me know how you get on
Prolex-UK said:
skwdenyer said:
Prolex-UK said:
Chrisgr31 said:
Gonzo0 said:
Spoke again to some woman today at the city council who said she could see our emails from the end of March which stated that we needed to be updated on the register and subsequent chaser emails, none of them had been read or actioned!!!
We have the local mp involved now to apply further pressure.
Prolex, out of interest what tools are using to manage and process these claims? When I hear that things like spreadsheets are being used it alarms me.
Some councils have always taken ages to respond to emails. The real could one comes around final reminders and summons, where you respond on date of receipt but they then don't read the email until after the 7 day warning.We have the local mp involved now to apply further pressure.
Prolex, out of interest what tools are using to manage and process these claims? When I hear that things like spreadsheets are being used it alarms me.
However the government guidance states that local authorities are expected to ensure the money gets to the ratepayer, the ratepayer should be the occupier where they arent they landlords and the billing authority should be trying to get the money to them.
We exclude from any recovery work any accounts with outstanding letters emails.
Works well
With cv19 most las are pausing recovety work as well
Edited by skwdenyer on Wednesday 29th April 18:14
Bend over backwards to help people..
My la is in london...
Not heard what we are doing yet.
We are a labour council and business rates has been high profile since the revaluation in 2017.
I suspect there will be a lot of fannying around then a made flap... Followed by getting b
ked for not paying the money out 2 days after the final scheme.
I have suggested doing our own scheme based on all properties with rv less than 51000 where businesses establish loss in revenue since march this year compated with prev years.
Simple app form bank statements and or letters from accountants
While thats sorted out payment holuday for prospective punters
We are a labour council and business rates has been high profile since the revaluation in 2017.
I suspect there will be a lot of fannying around then a made flap... Followed by getting b
ked for not paying the money out 2 days after the final scheme. I have suggested doing our own scheme based on all properties with rv less than 51000 where businesses establish loss in revenue since march this year compated with prev years.
Simple app form bank statements and or letters from accountants
While thats sorted out payment holuday for prospective punters
My wife has a skin clinic within a large gym. She has been there 5 years but rents a a licencee from the gym chain.
She doesn't deal with the business rates so hasn't been able to get any help.
Because its in a gym its likely that she won't be able to open till later in the rollout.
Will/how will she claim from this new scheme?
She doesn't deal with the business rates so hasn't been able to get any help.
Because its in a gym its likely that she won't be able to open till later in the rollout.
Will/how will she claim from this new scheme?
bigweb said:
My wife has a skin clinic within a large gym. She has been there 5 years but rents a a licencee from the gym chain.
She doesn't deal with the business rates so hasn't been able to get any help.
Because its in a gym its likely that she won't be able to open till later in the rollout.
Will/how will she claim from this new scheme?
email/write to your local business rates section.She doesn't deal with the business rates so hasn't been able to get any help.
Because its in a gym its likely that she won't be able to open till later in the rollout.
Will/how will she claim from this new scheme?
Explain what your wife does & the arrangement she has attach all paperwork she has to support the arrangement.
from what you say she is the type of "lost" business this new fund is aimed at
downside is the Govt added a rider saying councils could do there own thing so they may take a different course.
worth an hour or so putting the email togther though.
If you hear nothing after a week find your local councillor and ask him/her for help
Prolex-UK said:
We are a labour council and business rates has been high profile since the revaluation in 2017.
They'll be even more high profile in 2021 if the Revaluation goes ahead!I am not convinced the ability or lack of it for Councils to respond to queries is linked to its political colour. Its more to do with those that kept teams in existence, have them well trained etc.
There is just such an amazing range of responses from Councils from bending over backwards to assist to just being unavailable.
There is of course a review of business rates planned but you mentioned the real advantage that business rates has earlier in the thread. An exceptional collection rate something in the region of 97% in year with most of the rest coming in soon after. Its also incredibly cheap to manage. It collects something like £26 billion a year, so if you are going to change it you need something as efficient and cheap.
Part of the issue is that in real terms domestic property tax has fallen significantly.
The ideal solution would be a Council Tax revaluation with an increase in the number of bands. That could increase income allowing the rate in the pound for business rates to drop. It really needs to drop back down to around 35p in the pound.
Whats more likely to happen is tinkering around the edges and some other unsuitable scheme introduced.
Chrisgr31 said:
Prolex-UK said:
We are a labour council and business rates has been high profile since the revaluation in 2017.
They'll be even more high profile in 2021 if the Revaluation goes ahead!I am not convinced the ability or lack of it for Councils to respond to queries is linked to its political colour. Its more to do with those that kept teams in existence, have them well trained etc.
There is just such an amazing range of responses from Councils from bending over backwards to assist to just being unavailable.
There is of course a review of business rates planned but you mentioned the real advantage that business rates has earlier in the thread. An exceptional collection rate something in the region of 97% in year with most of the rest coming in soon after. Its also incredibly cheap to manage. It collects something like £26 billion a year, so if you are going to change it you need something as efficient and cheap.
Part of the issue is that in real terms domestic property tax has fallen significantly.
The ideal solution would be a Council Tax revaluation with an increase in the number of bands. That could increase income allowing the rate in the pound for business rates to drop. It really needs to drop back down to around 35p in the pound.
Whats more likely to happen is tinkering around the edges and some other unsuitable scheme introduced.
skwdenyer said:
Just imagine what will happen if commercial property rents drop back down again - rates will be 70p...
Well the market generally hasnt picked p since 2015, in fact in many cases has fallen. The only thing that has prevented an even higher rate on the pound is ever increasing values in central London. skwdenyer said:
Prolex: have you any more steer on how councils in general will be handling this new money? I realise you may not want to be so specific as to in effect identify your own LA.
Just heard that the official guidance is delayed ti next week. Until we see the official words tis difficult to say.
What line of work do yoy do?
skwdenyer said:
Prolex-UK said:
See 2021 revaluation is postponed
Good news for some, not for others. Where I mainly operate, retail rents had already dropped 50% from the peak before we got to Covid!Cynics might suggest rates aren't liked as they are hard to avoid!
Anyway we now await the fundemental review of business rates and information on future revals following that
Prolex-UK said:
skwdenyer said:
Prolex: have you any more steer on how councils in general will be handling this new money? I realise you may not want to be so specific as to in effect identify your own LA.
Just heard that the official guidance is delayed ti next week. Until we see the official words tis difficult to say.
What line of work do yoy do?
I operate commercial property in London. I undertake business consultancy, primarily in fashion. I also have a business that works with landlords and councils to get empty and underused properties back into some sort of use, usually working with charities and social enterprises to create beneficial outcomes (and, yes, save empty property rates for those landlords). I’ve also got fingers in a few other pies...skwdenyer said:
Prolex-UK said:
skwdenyer said:
Prolex: have you any more steer on how councils in general will be handling this new money? I realise you may not want to be so specific as to in effect identify your own LA.
Just heard that the official guidance is delayed ti next week. Until we see the official words tis difficult to say.
What line of work do yoy do?
I operate commercial property in London. I undertake business consultancy, primarily in fashion. I also have a business that works with landlords and councils to get empty and underused properties back into some sort of use, usually working with charities and social enterprises to create beneficial outcomes (and, yes, save empty property rates for those landlords). I’ve also got fingers in a few other pies...From what i have heard a lot of business rates managets are pushing the administration of this grant away towards business regen teams to deal with.
Reason being they do not have the information on actual property usage to grant the grants.
With that in mind i would suggest making contact with the regen teams explaining what you do and how you are struggling ASAP
The regen team at my council seem to be active and engaged with the smaller businesses so i hope you get some joy
jke11y said:
38 days in and no grant.
Article in yesterday’s paper saying GCC bottom of the table of scottish councils for getting grant money out.
“ Data released by the Scottish Government showed Glasgow received 12,840 applications and processed 3,217 of them up to April 28”
Scandalous and as usual nobody to hold to account.
Can I ask if you have heard anything as yet? We are GCC based aswell and have had to apply for the 25k grant.Article in yesterday’s paper saying GCC bottom of the table of scottish councils for getting grant money out.
“ Data released by the Scottish Government showed Glasgow received 12,840 applications and processed 3,217 of them up to April 28”
Scandalous and as usual nobody to hold to account.
Applied on the 17th - No word as of yet.
FoxtrotOscar1 said:
jke11y said:
38 days in and no grant.
Article in yesterday’s paper saying GCC bottom of the table of scottish councils for getting grant money out.
“ Data released by the Scottish Government showed Glasgow received 12,840 applications and processed 3,217 of them up to April 28”
Scandalous and as usual nobody to hold to account.
Can I ask if you have heard anything as yet? We are GCC based aswell and have had to apply for the 25k grant.Article in yesterday’s paper saying GCC bottom of the table of scottish councils for getting grant money out.
“ Data released by the Scottish Government showed Glasgow received 12,840 applications and processed 3,217 of them up to April 28”
Scandalous and as usual nobody to hold to account.
Applied on the 17th - No word as of yet.
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