Sole trader buying assets

Sole trader buying assets

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AndyC_123

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1,116 posts

154 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Hi

Have a friend who is a personal trainer. He is opening up a gym very shortly and had recently spent about £12k on equipment. I run a ltd business and so any assets I buy obviously go onto balance sheet.

I'm guessing this would be different for him as a sole trader? Declared income last year was probably £15ishk. Can he depreciate his new assets against profit over a set number of years or does the capital allowance all have to go in year 1?

Cheers

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Not different at all.

Sole traders should prepare accounts using the same principles as limited companies.

After all, accounting principles and conventions were invented before limited companies were.

AndyC_123

Original Poster:

1,116 posts

154 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Thanks.

Can he depreciate assets by up to 18% a year to offset income? I have told him to speak to an accountant but he's struggling for cash at the minute.

IJWS15

1,850 posts

85 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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AndyC_123 said:
Hi
................................ and had recently spent about £12k on equipment. ...........

......................................Declared income last year was probably £15ishk. ....................................
No wonder he is struggling for cash, may be struggling more when HMRC catch up with him.

He needs to find a few notes and get an accountant. It will save him money in the long run.

MaxFromage

1,887 posts

131 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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AndyC_123 said:
Hi

Have a friend who is a personal trainer. He is opening up a gym very shortly and had recently spent about £12k on equipment. I run a ltd business and so any assets I buy obviously go onto balance sheet.

I'm guessing this would be different for him as a sole trader? Declared income last year was probably £15ishk. Can he depreciate his new assets against profit over a set number of years or does the capital allowance all have to go in year 1?

Cheers
I think most accountants here can see how he could end up paying more tax in the first few years than an accountant would cost wink

He simply needs an accountant straight away. No excuses.

MaxFromage

1,887 posts

131 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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And does he really want to run a gym as a sole trader?

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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AndyC_123 said:
Thanks.

Can he depreciate assets by up to 18% a year to offset income? I have told him to speak to an accountant but he's struggling for cash at the minute.
Depreciation is an accounting technique.

Claiming Capital Allowances is a tax computation calculation.

In most circumstances, the choice of depreciation rates for use in the accounts is of no significance to the tax situation because depreciation is ignored for tax purposes. Instead, Capital Allowances are claimed using the rates and rules available for the relevant class of asset as set out in the tax legislation.

Mr Pointy

11,223 posts

159 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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MaxFromage said:
And does he really want to run a gym as a sole trader?
Why not?

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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Eric Mc said:
Capital Allowances are claimed using the rates and rules available for the relevant class of asset as set out in the tax legislation.
And so for gym equipment this is...?

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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Simpo Two said:
And so for gym equipment this is...?
Up to 100%.

MaxFromage

1,887 posts

131 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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Mr Pointy said:
Why not?
Risk from multiple sources, financial, protection of personal assets for example. Many accountants won't take on pubs, shops etc. Gyms are often on the list too.