how much holiday is normal?
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) it is hard for the private sector to compete...Sounds fairly generous, that. Obviously you HAVE to give public holidays. So take that as read....
20 days is normal - but usually you need to use three days of that at Christmas - you don't get those days extra.
A lot of firms operate a loyalty scheme such that if you stay in employment with them you get an extra day for each year starting with the third year and topping out at year seven with 25 days holiday. Staff appreciate this and tend to view the extra five days as being useful for single day off activities.
My wife works for one of the "big 5" and gets a fairly whopping 30 days.
You can also operate a "Flexiday" system where hours of "overtime" accumulate to allow staff days off. If you need 9 to 5 cover exclusively you won't want this...if you need 7am to 10pm cover flexible working can get you this whilst offering staff a benefit...
BTW: My firm does software for managing this sort of thing. If you could do with software to manage Staff Holidays/Absences/Sickness/Time at Work/Attendance etc we can sort you out. It isn't cheap but it is good if I say so myself!
20 days is normal - but usually you need to use three days of that at Christmas - you don't get those days extra.
A lot of firms operate a loyalty scheme such that if you stay in employment with them you get an extra day for each year starting with the third year and topping out at year seven with 25 days holiday. Staff appreciate this and tend to view the extra five days as being useful for single day off activities.
My wife works for one of the "big 5" and gets a fairly whopping 30 days.
You can also operate a "Flexiday" system where hours of "overtime" accumulate to allow staff days off. If you need 9 to 5 cover exclusively you won't want this...if you need 7am to 10pm cover flexible working can get you this whilst offering staff a benefit...
BTW: My firm does software for managing this sort of thing. If you could do with software to manage Staff Holidays/Absences/Sickness/Time at Work/Attendance etc we can sort you out. It isn't cheap but it is good if I say so myself!
Don said:
BTW: My firm does software for managing this sort of thing. If you could do with software to manage Staff Holidays/Absences/Sickness/Time at Work/Attendance etc we can sort you out. It isn't cheap but it is good if I say so myself!
We only employ 4 people (including me!!) so I dont think I need software for that sorta ting... cheers anyway
22-25 in most jobs i've been in (plus bank hols) usually 2-3 would be in a compulsory xmas week.
Edited to add, any potential employee that start quoting public sector terms conditions, GET SHOT quick. They will have quite the wrong attitude for a private business
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Edited to add, any potential employee that start quoting public sector terms conditions, GET SHOT quick. They will have quite the wrong attitude for a private business
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Edited by bjwoods on Thursday 5th April 11:11
Don said:
Sounds fairly generous, that. Obviously you HAVE to give public holidays. So take that as read....
Actually there in no entitlement to paid bank holidays or day off on bank holidays. The requirement is for '4 weeks' (not 20 days) and is in consultation to be 4.8 weeks rising to 5.6 weeks, to make up for the bank holidays which some people don't get.
Edited by edc on Thursday 5th April 14:13
Employees are entitled to 20 days paid holiday per year.
If they are paid for Bank Holiday periods (not obligatory) this is included in the 20 days so there are 12 days left with there being 8 Bank Holiday days per year
Your employer can control when you take your holiday.
www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/WorkingHoursAndTimeOff/DG_10029788
If they are paid for Bank Holiday periods (not obligatory) this is included in the 20 days so there are 12 days left with there being 8 Bank Holiday days per year
Your employer can control when you take your holiday.
www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/WorkingHoursAndTimeOff/DG_10029788
Edited by Robin Hood on Friday 6th April 11:27
30 days
Plus bank holidays
Plus Christmas, etc.
Plus 3 additional days if you take all your hols in "off season" (i.e. no summer hols) &
Plus discretionary flexi (e.g. flexible hours, home working, things like "9 days on working an extra, 1 off" with extra hours put in, etc).
But those are big company perks.
For a small company, I'd go with 20 days plus bank holiays. I'd probably add a day up to 25/30 for every year served if you value the staff, as 20 does feel tight, even if it does the income!
I'd also offer as much in the way of flexibility as possible - especially home-working - if it's feasible. If you have "good" staff, then home working generally gets you additional productivity. If you have bad staff, forget it!
Plus bank holidays
Plus Christmas, etc.
Plus 3 additional days if you take all your hols in "off season" (i.e. no summer hols) &
Plus discretionary flexi (e.g. flexible hours, home working, things like "9 days on working an extra, 1 off" with extra hours put in, etc).
But those are big company perks.
For a small company, I'd go with 20 days plus bank holiays. I'd probably add a day up to 25/30 for every year served if you value the staff, as 20 does feel tight, even if it does the income!
I'd also offer as much in the way of flexibility as possible - especially home-working - if it's feasible. If you have "good" staff, then home working generally gets you additional productivity. If you have bad staff, forget it!
When I was public sector we got 21 days rising to 24 days after 5 years then 28 after 12 years and I think 30 days after 22 years AIRC. Some senior staff got as many as 40 days.
At one time we also got a day for the Queens birthday, 2 'extra days' (usually Tuesdays after a BH; wish they had told me because I went in to work and was there with just the security staff) and at one point a half day to do our Christmas shopping!
Oh those heady days! Now I get what I give myself.
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