Car Showroom

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holtender_01

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56 posts

206 months

Sunday 3rd June 2007
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Hello.
I am very interested in eventually realising my dream and owning my own supercar showroom similar to the likes of elms, macari, amari and all the other greats. lol
However, I am unsure of how to get there? What would be the best route to gain the necessary experience to undertake such a project?

Also If I were to startup my own supercar showroom where would I get the funds to purchase the first few cars to get me going??
Do dealers such as those mention above own outright the cars and simply pay cash for them?? Seems like an awful lot of cash to have tied up.

Thanks in advance,
Look foward to responses - positive or negative.

also, the owner of elms collection - if you reading your input would be very very much appreicated

POORCARDEALER

8,525 posts

242 months

Sunday 3rd June 2007
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you are going to need at least 5 years experience and 500K(minimum) to think about it. Sorry to be negative but its fact.

Phil Hopkins

17,110 posts

218 months

Sunday 3rd June 2007
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POORCARDEALER said:
you are going to need at least 5 years experience and 500K(minimum) to think about it. Sorry to be negative but its fact.
The showroom alone could cost millions, before you even talk about stock. Yes, you could attempt to get business loans but you're going to have to have a really strong business plan.

To the OP: Have you got ANY motor trade experience?

Mustard

6,992 posts

246 months

Sunday 3rd June 2007
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OP has some funny ideas...

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/xforums/topic.asp?h=0...

'The Supercar showroom' is normally a rich PLC's folly (or involve dubious business practises... think thats delicately put enough wink ) , the more succesful independant enterprises are far less low key, witness 911 Virgin, and have been achieved through solid graft and years in the 'trade'

Contacts and knoweledge coupled with accumulated wealth is the only way forward!

holtender_01

Original Poster:

56 posts

206 months

Sunday 3rd June 2007
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OK, thanks for info.
I have no experience of the motor trade but was just looking into it.

So, just to clear it up - these prestige independants tend pay cash for the cars therefore meaning alot of existing wealth needed?

Phil Hopkins

17,110 posts

218 months

Sunday 3rd June 2007
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No. Not necessarily. Some dealers fund their stock through stocking finance from the likes of Lombard/Capital Bank etc. Others use a pre-approved (massive) overdraft. Some equally are cash rich and pay cash.

Before even contemplating setting up a motor dealership (let alone a super-car dealer) i'd suggest you go and work in one for a good few years. Buying & selling cars isn't as simple as many people assume.

Eric Mc

122,050 posts

266 months

Sunday 3rd June 2007
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Seconded.

Go out and work in the industry for a number of yeers and learn the ropes.

Chrisgr31

13,485 posts

256 months

Sunday 3rd June 2007
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I don't see why a Supercar Showroom should cost millions? I saw a 2nd hand Ferrari showroom on an industrial estate in Maidstone last week. Quite simple to convert an industrial unit to a car showroom (slightly less simple to get planning consent though!).

Obviously if you are thinking of a modern main dealer showroom then they do cost millions. Mind you part of that is because the manufacturer will have an apporved supplier for everything and therefore the costs are higher!

However irrespective of the property you still need to try car dealing first!

holtender_01

Original Poster:

56 posts

206 months

Sunday 3rd June 2007
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brilliant info and advice guys.
yes, experience is a must, i am more inclined to get into the game now.
thanks.
any more information...much appreicated

Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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Phil Hopkins said:
No. Not necessarily. Some dealers fund their stock through stocking finance from the likes of Lombard/Capital Bank etc. Others use a pre-approved (massive) overdraft. Some equally are cash rich and pay cash.
I've often wondered how your average dealer, who is borrowing the money, makes any money. Their monthly interest charges must be *huge*?

Phil Hopkins

17,110 posts

218 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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Deva Link said:
Phil Hopkins said:
No. Not necessarily. Some dealers fund their stock through stocking finance from the likes of Lombard/Capital Bank etc. Others use a pre-approved (massive) overdraft. Some equally are cash rich and pay cash.
I've often wondered how your average dealer, who is borrowing the money, makes any money. Their monthly interest charges must be *huge*?
Most dealers make a profit on sales of about 1%. Parts & Servicing are where the money is made.

mcflurry

9,099 posts

254 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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AFAIK many of them are owned by giant plc's underneath.

Look at Sytner for example, they have Binis and Smart franchises right up to Lambos smile

Phil Hopkins

17,110 posts

218 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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Mustard hit the nail on the head wink

Mustard

6,992 posts

246 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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I have it on good authority, nearly all Ferrari Main Dealers loose money, some several hundred thousand a year.

Even Aston Martin Park Lane struggles to make a profit!

POORCARDEALER

8,525 posts

242 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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Mustard said:
I have it on good authority, nearly all Ferrari Main Dealers loose money, some several hundred thousand a year.

Even Aston Martin Park Lane struggles to make a profit!
We made mega money at the dealership i worked at in the 90s, but then the showroom did resemble a garden shed!

Mustard

6,992 posts

246 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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POORCARDEALER said:
Mustard said:
I have it on good authority, nearly all Ferrari Main Dealers loose money, some several hundred thousand a year.

Even Aston Martin Park Lane struggles to make a profit!
We made mega money at the dealership i worked at in the 90s, but then the showroom did resemble a garden shed!
Exactly... you cant beat a shed for low overheads!

When Lotus was on fire, we were one of the countries top 3 Lotus Dealerships working out of a Birmingham backstreet wink

POORCARDEALER

8,525 posts

242 months

Tuesday 5th June 2007
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Mustard said:
POORCARDEALER said:
Mustard said:
I have it on good authority, nearly all Ferrari Main Dealers loose money, some several hundred thousand a year.

Even Aston Martin Park Lane struggles to make a profit!
We made mega money at the dealership i worked at in the 90s, but then the showroom did resemble a garden shed!
Exactly... you cant beat a shed for low overheads!

When Lotus was on fire, we were one of the countries top 3 Lotus Dealerships working out of a Birmingham backstreet wink
Ahhh the good old days,an order book of 120 Elise deposits before it was launched..................smile

bean455

674 posts

209 months

Tuesday 5th June 2007
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Dont be put off.If you start,get an experienced sales person,commission hungry,who will phone all his existing client bank,do all the marketing and hopefully build up a few early sales,make sure you are sourcing fully serviced no damaged stock,give a fantastic back up,include loan car,very important,not a Corsa!The main problem will be finding the cars at trade price.Preparation is everything.Go for it.

Mastiff

2,515 posts

242 months

Tuesday 5th June 2007
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Mustard said:
I have it on good authority, nearly all Ferrari Main Dealers loose money, some several hundred thousand a year.

Even Aston Martin Park Lane struggles to make a profit!
yes

Most of them do, having the Marque is a kudos thing.

As for Aston Martin, even as a manufacturer I think I'm right in saying that 2005 was the first year they ever made a profit!!

Mattt

16,661 posts

219 months

Tuesday 5th June 2007
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Also, Dion (Elms) doesn't have a dealership as such - and works mainly sourcing cars for people, not holding massive amounts of stock.

He has a website you can contact him through, although as said above your business plan (what i've read) doesn't seem too convincing!