My new torch

[ericmcn]

the tribester said:

You can cancel it now though, you don't have to wait.

Set the reminder, and then struggle to follow the links when it's time.

I find Amazon quite accomodating, to well everything so refunds and complaints are usually swiftly dealt with one way or another. Prime is useful itself anyway - lots of good viewing content and if you have a virgin hub you can access from that

[JimbobVFR]

peterperkins said:

Arrrggghhhhh

I browsed this thread and ended up immediately being seduced into spending £30 on a million watt/lumen retina burning torch and charger at Amazon.

That's not the worst of it!! Oh no!!

Then accidentally I clicked the wrong frigging button during the checkout process.
Like millions of others I've fallen victim to crafty links and misleading text and have activated my Amazon Prime Free Trial.

NOOOOOOOOO........

I've activated the remind me three days before it expires e-mail and hope I can cancel it before my life ends.

While you've got it you may as well watch the new Jack Ryan show on Prime before cancelling, it's well worth watching.

[ericmcn]

JimbobVFR said:

While you've got it you may as well watch the new Jack Ryan show on Prime before cancelling, it's well worth watching.

deffo

[untakenname]

I'm looking for a new EDC for walking around the park at night, I currently have an Olight Warrior which is perfect size wise but it's only around 1200 lumens so doesn't illuminate very far so I use a no name chinese light which has 4000 lumen but is unwieldy (4x 18650 batteries).

I was wondering if there's any decent brands that put a 4k lumen light into a single 18650 form factor?

I like the Olight brand and they seem well made but they only seem to go upto 2k lumen with a single 18650.

[red_slr]

Not sure how 1200 is not bright enough tbh? Sounds like you might want a thrower rather than a flood?

Firefly E07 is probably the brightest single (7000 lumens) but uses a 21700. It also cuts out after 30 seconds IIRC to protect the unit from damage.

Personally I would go with something like a Fenix PD36R but again 21700, its £100 ish but worth it IMHO. "only" 1600 lumens though.

[ericmcn]

untakenname said:

I'm looking for a new EDC for walking around the park at night, I currently have an Olight Warrior which is perfect size wise but it's only around 1200 lumens so doesn't illuminate very far so I use a no name chinese light which has 4000 lumen but is unwieldy (4x 18650 batteries).

I was wondering if there's any decent brands that put a 4k lumen light into a single 18650 form factor?

I like the Olight brand and they seem well made but they only seem to go upto 2k lumen with a single 18650.

Has anyone even seen the flashlight I posted, it takes 18650 or 26650, 6k lumen. Much less than 100GBP also, about 50 on Amazon

[Mr-B]

Recently got an Astrolux EC01 runs on a 21700 or 18650 with included adapter, 3500 lumens, £20-ish or BLF A6 will give a very similar beam pattern (more flood than throw) 1600 lumens for <£20. The A6 isn't much bigger then the 18650 battery itself, very poketable..

[untakenname]

Wish I saw the post above earlier, spent my lunchtime on youtube looking at reviews and beam shots and ended up getting an Imalent DM70, wasn't planning on spending that much and it looks like the Astrolux EC01 outputs nearly as much for a fraction of the price.

I was only fixated on 18650 cells as I have quite a few of them (was into vaping for a few years then gave up smoking completely) but the 21700 cells don't see that much larger.

red_slr said:

Not sure how 1200 is not bright enough tbh? Sounds like you might want a thrower rather than a flood?

Firefly E07 is probably the brightest single (7000 lumens) but uses a 21700. It also cuts out after 30 seconds IIRC to protect the unit from damage.

Cheers, this one looked promising but looking at the reviews it looks like the QC is rather hit or miss (lots of disgruntled purchasers receiving lights with no thermal paste).

I'm generally only going to use the light occasionally at full beam so don't mind the turbo mode, the current Olight I have is OK but is quite floody, has a range of around 50 meters if that I would say.

ericmcn said:

Has anyone even seen the flashlight I posted, it takes 18650 or 26650, 6k lumen. Much less than 100GBP also, about 50 on Amazon

Is that the PFSN TCP50 you linked to a couple of pages back? If so then the formfactor is too large for an EDC and it seems to use a single Cree XHP50 so the true output will be around half what's claimed imo.

[ericmcn]

untakenname said:

Wish I saw the post above earlier, spent my lunchtime on youtube looking at reviews and beam shots and ended up getting an Imalent DM70, wasn't planning on spending that much and it looks like the Astrolux EC01 outputs nearly as much for a fraction of the price.

I was only fixated on 18650 cells as I have quite a few of them (was into vaping for a few years then gave up smoking completely) but the 21700 cells don't see that much larger.

red_slr said:

Not sure how 1200 is not bright enough tbh? Sounds like you might want a thrower rather than a flood?

Firefly E07 is probably the brightest single (7000 lumens) but uses a 21700. It also cuts out after 30 seconds IIRC to protect the unit from damage.

Cheers, this one looked promising but looking at the reviews it looks like the QC is rather hit or miss (lots of disgruntled purchasers receiving lights with no thermal paste).

I'm generally only going to use the light occasionally at full beam so don't mind the turbo mode, the current Olight I have is OK but is quite floody, has a range of around 50 meters if that I would say.

ericmcn said:

Has anyone even seen the flashlight I posted, it takes 18650 or 26650, 6k lumen. Much less than 100GBP also, about 50 on Amazon

Is that the PFSN TCP50 you linked to a couple of pages back? If so then the formfactor is too large for an EDC and it seems to use a single Cree XHP50 so the true output will be around half what's claimed imo.

Its large yes, but thats because its a beast - it looks to use a a series of XHP50 LEDs each with 2654lm output, it has 2 modes normal and full power so probably dims both for the low mode. Look into this lamp and you will do irreversible damage to your eyesight

see these reviews (not mine)

This torch is very powerful
There is a bright future for this torch... I would say the thing that really illuminates this torch for me is the level of danger it creates. Not only does it have a heavy spike at the back of the torch for combat... it is also capable of temporarily or potentially permenently blinding someone (I haven’t tested this because I genuinely fear that it could blind someone if shone dirfectly into eyes) now my head hertz.Even with eyelids closed it is too powerful and glows through and hurts eyes when shined onto your face.This torch is truly delightful. I feel enlightened after buying it. It’s not light but it’s definitely extremely light.Would I buy it again? Well that depends.. I would first ask myself a few questions and if the answers were mainly yes. Then I would...1 do I want to blind someone2 do I mind the chance blinding myself3 do I need to light up a football pitch4 do I have 50 pounds spare plus 5 delivery5 I don’t mind getting accused by authorities for carrying a dangerous weapon6 do I want to have the most powerful torch out of all my friends to show themUp when the time (however infrequent it may be) comesIf you find yourself answering yes to most of these questions I would say buy the torch.



Bought this purely on a whim. Having owned many torches in the past, some I've liked and some have been awful I wasn't expecting too much for jist over £50.

How wrong I was !

The packaging, case and instructions were poor to be honest, really cheap and nasty. But its whats inside that counts. And this torch does not disappoint. It is substantially made of machined aluminium and has both a crenallated front and a spike on the back There is a plug in charger supplied as well as well as a wrist strap. This unit feels substantial in the hand, rather like a Fenix 8xAA battery powered unit I had many years ago. Recharging of the two included LiIon batteries is easy, plug in the chargeer and away you go.

This unit really scores on the most critical part...the beam. And it is OUTSTANDING , it can compare to brands and models three or four times the price. Although fixed,its tight with jusr the right amount of spill,bright white( NO Colour casts ) and incredibly powerful. It can be knocked down to half power by a press of the switch.

Edited by ericmcn on Tuesday 12th November 22:03

[Danny4494]

Off to Amazon to look for torches that I don't need.....

[Digi_RS]

A question for you most knowledgable gents. My sister-in-law is taking part in the Clipper Round the World race (legs 5 onwards) and has asked my advice on a good head torch.

I thought I'd ask a question here. But my search criteria is:

- really, really waterproof
- must have a red light
- batteries much preferable as recharging is the single biggest argument point on any boat
- Lightweight
- Main lens element shouldn't protrude much
- It will have to deal with really cold and really warm temperatures

Link for Clipper if you're interested: https://www.clipperroundtheworld.com/

Edited by Digi_RS on Monday 18th November 18:19

Edited by Digi_RS on Monday 18th November 18:19

Edited by Digi_RS on Monday 18th November 18:21

[red_slr]

For something so serious I would say, without hesitation, SureFire. However, they don't currently offer a head torch with red LED, to the public anyway.

So the next step "down" for me would be a Petzl Tactikka Core. This will come with the core battery so can be recharged as normal but if power is an issue will run off 3x AAA. Should be ok for water tightness and in the heat. I almost bought one myself recently but hanging on to see if there are any discounts on black Friday / new year.

Power wise she might want to take a big power bank and solar charger then charge £10 an hour to use it

[Zadkiel]

Digi_RS said:

A question for you most knowledgable gents. My sister-in-law is taking part in the Clipper Round the World race (legs 5 onwards) and has asked my advice on a good head torch.

I thought I'd ask a question here. But my search criteria is:

- really, really waterproof
- must have a red light
- batteries much preferable as recharging is the single biggest argument point on any boat
- Lightweight
- Main lens element shouldn't protrude much
- It will have to deal with really cold and really warm temperatures

Link for Clipper if you're interested: https://www.clipperroundtheworld.com/

Edited by Digi_RS on Monday 18th November 18:19

Edited by Digi_RS on Monday 18th November 18:19

Edited by Digi_RS on Monday 18th November 18:21

Personally I would go for something like this Nitecore HC65 https://flashlight.nitecore.com/product/hc65

It's got a very bright main light, red back up light, it is fully submersible (which the vast majority of headlamps are not) and designed to work in low temperatures. Also it runs off a rechargeable Li-Ion battery for when charging is possible or can run off of two CR123s which can be taken on board for when it is not.

[V8mate]

Zadkiel said:

Digi_RS said:

A question for you most knowledgable gents. My sister-in-law is taking part in the Clipper Round the World race (legs 5 onwards) and has asked my advice on a good head torch.

I thought I'd ask a question here. But my search criteria is:

- really, really waterproof
- must have a red light
- batteries much preferable as recharging is the single biggest argument point on any boat
- Lightweight
- Main lens element shouldn't protrude much
- It will have to deal with really cold and really warm temperatures

Link for Clipper if you're interested: https://www.clipperroundtheworld.com/

Personally I would go for something like this Nitecore HC65 https://flashlight.nitecore.com/product/hc65

It's got a very bright main light, red back up light, it is fully submersible (which the vast majority of headlamps are not) and designed to work in low temperatures. Also it runs off a rechargeable Li-Ion battery for when charging is possible or can run off of two CR123s which can be taken on board for when it is not.

Wouldn't that be too bright for working in close proximity to other people?

[FiF]

V8mate said:

Zadkiel said:

Digi_RS said:

A question for you most knowledgable gents. My sister-in-law is taking part in the Clipper Round the World race (legs 5 onwards) and has asked my advice on a good head torch.

I thought I'd ask a question here. But my search criteria is:

- really, really waterproof
- must have a red light
- batteries much preferable as recharging is the single biggest argument point on any boat
- Lightweight
- Main lens element shouldn't protrude much
- It will have to deal with really cold and really warm temperatures

Link for Clipper if you're interested: https://www.clipperroundtheworld.com/

Personally I would go for something like this Nitecore HC65 https://flashlight.nitecore.com/product/hc65

It's got a very bright main light, red back up light, it is fully submersible (which the vast majority of headlamps are not) and designed to work in low temperatures. Also it runs off a rechargeable Li-Ion battery for when charging is possible or can run off of two CR123s which can be taken on board for when it is not.

Wouldn't that be too bright for working in close proximity to other people?

It goes down to 1 lumen output, essentially moonlight level (ish)

Like the look of that Nitecore, trouble is don't have an excuse for yet another head torch.

[V8mate]

FiF said:

It goes down to 1 lumen output, essentially moonlight level (ish)

Like the look of that Nitecore, trouble is don't have an excuse for yet another head torch.

Looking back, it's rarely discounted; sits between £64 and £67. Best price was £56.81 on Christmas Eve last year.

[maccas99]

Hi all knowledgeable torch chaps - need a small torch for general duties and noticed a few pages back that everyone was buying the Ledeak T6. Is this still good VFM and good as a small but powerful torch?

Edited to add - it's £13.99 on Amazon at the moment - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ledeak-Flashlight-Waterpr...

[Squadrone Rosso]

maccas99 said:

Hi all knowledgeable torch chaps - need a small torch for general duties and noticed a few pages back that everyone was buying the Ledeak T6. Is this still good VFM and good as a small but powerful torch?

Edited to add - it's £13.99 on Amazon at the moment - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ledeak-Flashlight-Waterpr...

I’ve been impressed with mine after correcting the off centre LED.

Used it in anger last night when out on a long rural walk with my dogs. It’s excellent in fairness.

I invested in a couple of spare rechargeable 18650 batteries too.

[maccas99]

Squadrone Rosso said:

I’ve been impressed with mine after correcting the off centre LED.

Used it in anger last night when out on a long rural walk with my dogs. It’s excellent in fairness.

I invested in a couple of spare rechargeable 18650 batteries too.

OK, thanks for this, is the off-centre LED an issue with all of them, and what is the fix?

[Digi_RS]

Thanks Zadkiel and Red_SLR. Suggests sent to the SIL who's chosen the Petzl Tactikka Core. Although I really like the Nitecore HC65 so might add that to my Christmas shopping list