Philips Hue Lighting - owners thread

Philips Hue Lighting - owners thread

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BigBen

11,645 posts

230 months

Tuesday 31st December 2019
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JimbobVFR said:
BigBen said:
It's more like how it sort of half works IME. It certainly doesn't do the latter confirmation bit.
Mine does, daft question I suppose but are you sure your devices are assigned to rooms correctly.
Yes, double checked that following your post.

It is kind of tolerable. Other niggles are thinks like telling it to "shut up" to stop a timer alarm and it turning off the music throughout the house......

ecsrobin

17,123 posts

165 months

Tuesday 31st December 2019
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BigBen said:
Yes, double checked that following your post.

It is kind of tolerable. Other niggles are thinks like telling it to "shut up" to stop a timer alarm and it turning off the music throughout the house......
Surely “stop alarm” is the command you are after.

BigBen

11,645 posts

230 months

Tuesday 31st December 2019
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ecsrobin said:
BigBen said:
Yes, double checked that following your post.

It is kind of tolerable. Other niggles are thinks like telling it to "shut up" to stop a timer alarm and it turning off the music throughout the house......
Surely “stop alarm” is the command you are after.
Yes, I am familiar with the correct command but it wouldn't be stretching the limits of AI to recognise the context of a command.

ecsrobin

17,123 posts

165 months

Tuesday 31st December 2019
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BigBen said:
ecsrobin said:
BigBen said:
Yes, double checked that following your post.

It is kind of tolerable. Other niggles are thinks like telling it to "shut up" to stop a timer alarm and it turning off the music throughout the house......
Surely “stop alarm” is the command you are after.
Yes, I am familiar with the correct command but it wouldn't be stretching the limits of AI to recognise the context of a command.
I think you may need to look at it another way, your kids are playing and making some noise that you don’t mind their phone starts ringing and you want it to stop so you shout at them “shut up!” What do you think their reaction would be?

I’d say it’s not an issue with AI as it’s doing what you requested and based on what is likely to happen in a human to human interaction.

33q

1,555 posts

123 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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Any ideas....lights won't respond to voice commands

I have quite a few Hue lights across 2 hubs.

I have fitted some coloured GU10s (new type ones) in the En-Suite. Registered to the Hub, registered to Echo. The bulbs work perfectly using the Hue app and the Alexa app but unlike all my other kit they will not respond to voice.

I have a good wifi connection...and Echo Dot in the En-Suite ...and I can control my Hive TRV on the towel rail using voice. I can control other things from the En-Suite.

Puzzled as to why these devices won't play ball when everything else does.

BaldOldMan

4,652 posts

64 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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33q said:
Any ideas....lights won't respond to voice commands
What command are you using ?

Do you have them set up on rooms ?

For me, 'Alexa turn on the kitchen lights' works - with a room called kitchen

33q

1,555 posts

123 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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BaldOldMan said:
33q said:
Any ideas....lights won't respond to voice commands
What command are you using ?

Do you have them set up on rooms ?

For me, 'Alexa turn on the kitchen lights' works - with a room called kitchen
Yes...set up as rooms...'En-Suite lights on' or 'Turn En-Suite lights on'

If I do the command on one of my Echo Spots it displays the Hive Temp.

I can command each bulb to light individually but not as a group

It obviously recognizes the room as 'En-Suite' but still no lights

BaldOldMan

4,652 posts

64 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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Maybe try setting up the room groupings in the Hue App ?

That's what I did - Alexa seemed to pick them up automatically

BigBen

11,645 posts

230 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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ecsrobin said:
I think you may need to look at it another way, your kids are playing and making some noise that you don’t mind their phone starts ringing and you want it to stop so you shout at them “shut up!” What do you think their reaction would be?

I’d say it’s not an issue with AI as it’s doing what you requested and based on what is likely to happen in a human to human interaction.
Or look at it like this. My (imaginary) kids are playing and making some noise then the buzzer on the oven goes off. Do I switch off the buzzer on the oven or shout at the kids?

Either way in the scheme of things it is a minor inconvenience.

What I can recommend following last night is an app called 'ilightshow' which syncs Hue to Spotify. Worked pretty well throughout my NYE party. The difference between this app and other audio sync apps is it only works with Spotify and analyses the audio stream to work out the flash pattern rather than use your phone microphone to listen to it. Good fun and only £5.99

juggsy

1,428 posts

130 months

Thursday 2nd January 2020
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BaldOldMan said:
Maybe try setting up the room groupings in the Hue App ?

That's what I did - Alexa seemed to pick them up automatically
Remember to do an Alexa device refresh when you change names/groupings/rooms. Just say ‘Alexa, discover Devices’ - even if it says no new devices are found, it still seems to update names/rooms/scenes etc

And to ensure certain commands work as I want, I just set up a bunch of routines with a voice command and light grouping

LordGrover

33,545 posts

212 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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I have a few Hue BT bulbs configured and working with the Philips app and Alexa.
Also have a google home but it doesn't 'see' them - as they are connected to the existing devices does that make them unavailable to google?

JimbobVFR

2,682 posts

144 months

Friday 3rd January 2020
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LordGrover said:
I have a few Hue BT bulbs configured and working with the Philips app and Alexa.
Also have a google home but it doesn't 'see' them - as they are connected to the existing devices does that make them unavailable to google?
I believe so. I'd highly recommend not bothering with BT and acquiring a Hue bridge. I'm not sure what they were thinking but BT is and was a silly idea for smart lighting, at most it's a stopgap to get a bulb up and running before you do it properly and use ZigBee and the proper bridge.

HRL

3,341 posts

219 months

Tuesday 7th January 2020
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It’s a little bit addictive.

Got a simple bulb for the living room uplighter to have a play around with via BT. Within a month I’ve replaced all the kitchen and bathroom GU10’s, and bought a Hub and Switch.

Been told not to buy any more by the wife!

Oh, except for the upstairs bathroom. I’m “allowed” to swap that out as long as I replace the current light with an IP44 GU10 fitting and 3 more GU10 colour bulbs so that she can have a more relaxing bath in peace.

It’s just a shame that the bulbs are so expensive.

33q

1,555 posts

123 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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HRL said:
It’s a little bit addictive.

Got a simple bulb for the living room uplighter to have a play around with via BT. Within a month I’ve replaced all the kitchen and bathroom GU10’s, and bought a Hub and Switch.

Been told not to buy any more by the wife!

Oh, except for the upstairs bathroom. I’m “allowed” to swap that out as long as I replace the current light with an IP44 GU10 fitting and 3 more GU10 colour bulbs so that she can have a more relaxing bath in peace.

It’s just a shame that the bulbs are so expensive.
Just the way I started.....got two hubs now!

Try putting motion sensors in your hall/landing.....


kev1974

4,029 posts

129 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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I presume the Hue motion sensor can turn a Hue light on for 1 minute or whatever and then turn it off again.

But can it / the stock Hue app, take (for example) a light that is already on and blue, and turn it white for 30 seconds, and then turn it back to blue, rather than off? That would be very cool if it can.

dickymint

24,362 posts

258 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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kev1974 said:
I presume the Hue motion sensor can turn a Hue light on for 1 minute or whatever and then turn it off again.

But can it / the stock Hue app, take (for example) a light that is already on and blue, and turn it white for 30 seconds, and then turn it back to blue, rather than off? That would be very cool if it can.
Don’t know but I find it handy that the one that controls my bathrooms dims for about 30 seconds then off - just enough time to wipe....... rofl

33q

1,555 posts

123 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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I have my Hue motion sensors set so they are brighter up until 10.00 pm and then softer overnight etc. You can vary the ‘on time’ but the standard Hue app is limited

Some third party apps may do colour changing etc

Why oh why did I answer this...I must resist not trying this....

ecsrobin

17,123 posts

165 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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Good news more outdoor lights have been announced https://gizmodo.com/philips-hue-has-a-very-welcome...

Baron Greenback

6,993 posts

150 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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ecsrobin said:
Good news more outdoor lights have been announced https://gizmodo.com/philips-hue-has-a-very-welcome...
Just about to link that!

Oakey

27,590 posts

216 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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kev1974 said:
I presume the Hue motion sensor can turn a Hue light on for 1 minute or whatever and then turn it off again.

But can it / the stock Hue app, take (for example) a light that is already on and blue, and turn it white for 30 seconds, and then turn it back to blue, rather than off? That would be very cool if it can.
Pretty sure there's a formula in hue labs to do something like this