Philips Hue Lighting - owners thread

Philips Hue Lighting - owners thread

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Heartworm

1,923 posts

161 months

Monday 2nd August 2021
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UTH said:
I have a Samsung TV....I assume it'll work with that as well?
I imagine I'd just plug my Sky Q box into the sync box, and I'd use things like Prime, Netflix through the Sky box.....so they'll work, right?
Yes that will work,

UTH

8,939 posts

178 months

Monday 2nd August 2021
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Heartworm said:
UTH said:
I have a Samsung TV....I assume it'll work with that as well?
I imagine I'd just plug my Sky Q box into the sync box, and I'd use things like Prime, Netflix through the Sky box.....so they'll work, right?
Yes that will work,
Ok.....now the process of staring at the shopping basket on Amazon convincing myself to do it!

dapprman

2,318 posts

267 months

Monday 2nd August 2021
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Not sure who good it will be with the sync box. I have a Philips TV with Ambilight, which works better - linked it in to a couple of my lights and it was rather weird, so I unlinked. As to the ambilight itself - superb, really works, however this is with the built in system so the lights are instant and far more granular (9 each side, not sure about on top, my model does not have underneath).

UTH

8,939 posts

178 months

Monday 2nd August 2021
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dapprman said:
Not sure who good it will be with the sync box. I have a Philips TV with Ambilight, which works better - linked it in to a couple of my lights and it was rather weird, so I unlinked. As to the ambilight itself - superb, really works, however this is with the built in system so the lights are instant and far more granular (9 each side, not sure about on top, my model does not have underneath).
Sorry, bit dim.....what's ambilight?

Edit: just read up on it. Sounds like the sync box with led strips is basically a way of adding the ambilight feature to any tv set up? No reason why it wouldn't be any good surely?

Edited by UTH on Monday 2nd August 16:13

phil4

1,216 posts

238 months

Monday 2nd August 2021
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I've got the hue sync stuff with the multicolour strip.

Yes, you need to feed anything you want to watch through the Sync box, so on TV tuner/apps won't work.

In terms of the strip itself be gentle with the strip at the corners when you install it. And consider getting a couple of the smart light bars, to but along the bottom of the TV (I found 2 works well). Otherwise you get an odd dark patch along the bottom.

It works really nicely once you stop looking specifically at it, adding to the TV picture, and some cool bits when for example a program goes to white, and the whole TV and room lights up properly.

UTH

8,939 posts

178 months

Monday 2nd August 2021
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phil4 said:
I've got the hue sync stuff with the multicolour strip.

Yes, you need to feed anything you want to watch through the Sync box, so on TV tuner/apps won't work.

In terms of the strip itself be gentle with the strip at the corners when you install it. And consider getting a couple of the smart light bars, to but along the bottom of the TV (I found 2 works well). Otherwise you get an odd dark patch along the bottom.

It works really nicely once you stop looking specifically at it, adding to the TV picture, and some cool bits when for example a program goes to white, and the whole TV and room lights up properly.
Do you have any other lights linked up with it? I think we'll probably end up with a couple of small table lamps on a low unit below the TV, was thinking about fitting hue bulbs in those as well to add to it all.

phil4

1,216 posts

238 months

Monday 2nd August 2021
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UTH said:
Do you have any other lights linked up with it? I think we'll probably end up with a couple of small table lamps on a low unit below the TV, was thinking about fitting hue bulbs in those as well to add to it all.
Yeah, all the room spots are hue, so the 6 over the TV are in the same "Entertainment zone" and chip in. They're really subtle though (do help when it goes all white), but the extra bars at the bottom of the TV help with under there.

As you can add to it (but not so easily take away), why not try with just the strip and see how it looks, you can then try adding another light or two if you feel the need.

UTH

8,939 posts

178 months

Monday 2nd August 2021
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phil4 said:
UTH said:
Do you have any other lights linked up with it? I think we'll probably end up with a couple of small table lamps on a low unit below the TV, was thinking about fitting hue bulbs in those as well to add to it all.
Yeah, all the room spots are hue, so the 6 over the TV are in the same "Entertainment zone" and chip in. They're really subtle though (do help when it goes all white), but the extra bars at the bottom of the TV help with under there.

As you can add to it (but not so easily take away), why not try with just the strip and see how it looks, you can then try adding another light or two if you feel the need.
Yeah I'll probably start with the strip and then let my addiction takeover and add more. All of our spots are currently hues, but not sure I'll add them into the entertainment mix.

dapprman

2,318 posts

267 months

Monday 2nd August 2021
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UTH said:
Sorry, bit dim.....what's ambilight?

Edit: just read up on it. Sounds like the sync box with led strips is basically a way of adding the ambilight feature to any tv set up? No reason why it wouldn't be any good surely?

Edited by UTH on Monday 2nd August 16:13
Ambilight is instantaneous, where as you get lag with the external systems as they require a camera to be pointed at the screen and it dictates the lighting. As a result the colour areas are not as fine or as detailed. I've seen demos and they've been fine until you watch an ambilight TV.

Heartworm

1,923 posts

161 months

Monday 2nd August 2021
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dapprman said:
Ambilight is instantaneous, where as you get lag with the external systems as they require a camera to be pointed at the screen and it dictates the lighting. As a result the colour areas are not as fine or as detailed. I've seen demos and they've been fine until you watch an ambilight TV.
Hue sync does not require a camera, is produced by Phillips and uses the input to the tv producing no lag as hue has the image before the TV.

UTH

8,939 posts

178 months

Monday 2nd August 2021
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Heartworm said:
dapprman said:
Ambilight is instantaneous, where as you get lag with the external systems as they require a camera to be pointed at the screen and it dictates the lighting. As a result the colour areas are not as fine or as detailed. I've seen demos and they've been fine until you watch an ambilight TV.
Hue sync does not require a camera, is produced by Phillips and uses the input to the tv producing no lag as hue has the image before the TV.
Yeah I was confused by the camera thing above!

mw88

1,457 posts

111 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2021
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UTH said:
Does anyone have the Hue TV sync system?

https://www.philips-hue.com/en-gb/explore-hue/prop...

As expected, this stuff is addictive haha.

The TV thing looks pretty cool on videos I've seen, but it's not cheap......anyone got it and can tell me it's a terrible idea or it's actually awesome?
Haven't got the sync HDMI box, but I do use the Sync App on Windows with a couple of the Play Lightbars behind the monitor.

Works well when gaming, would probably be better with the multi colour strip. I don't watch many films, so £250 is a bit steep for the HDMI box

dapprman

2,318 posts

267 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2021
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Heartworm said:
Hue sync does not require a camera, is produced by Phillips and uses the input to the tv producing no lag as hue has the image before the TV.
It's still an external device and unless one of you here has it and is able to confirm otherwise, every test I've seen on YouTube has suffered from lag, it's rivals use cameras and are cheaper, but I've only seen one comparison test and that actually produced better results with the cheaper rival.

Now if you're in the rare situation where you're buying a new TV - the ambilight system is truly superior, however at the costs of modern TVs it's not something you're going to go for just for the peripheral effect. I was able to go this route as my old plasma set was starting to struggle and had been displaying ghost images for years (BBC News 24 flash - as I tend to leave that channel running in the background when I'm home), additionally for me the Philips TV worked as well as it's rivals in within my budget and requirement.

UTH

8,939 posts

178 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2021
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Interesting info above. I imagine a lag would seriously ruin the whole experience!

Heartworm

1,923 posts

161 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2021
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dapprman said:
It's still an external device and unless one of you here has it and is able to confirm otherwise, every test I've seen on YouTube has suffered from lag, it's rivals use cameras and are cheaper, but I've only seen one comparison test and that actually produced better results with the cheaper rival.

Now if you're in the rare situation where you're buying a new TV - the ambilight system is truly superior, however at the costs of modern TVs it's not something you're going to go for just for the peripheral effect. I was able to go this route as my old plasma set was starting to struggle and had been displaying ghost images for years (BBC News 24 flash - as I tend to leave that channel running in the background when I'm home), additionally for me the Philips TV worked as well as it's rivals in within my budget and requirement.
It does not suffer lag.
You are comparing hue sync to things that are not part of hue. Hue sync receives a signal before your tv does.

I’m not a fan of it as a product as it doesn’t do 4K but it does what it does alright.

dapprman

2,318 posts

267 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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Heartworm said:
It does not suffer lag.
You are comparing hue sync to things that are not part of hue. Hue sync receives a signal before your tv does.

I’m not a fan of it as a product as it doesn’t do 4K but it does what it does alright.
Putting aside my watching videos of it - unless we're talking about different uses, how can it get the signal before the TV ? The TV sends the signal to the HDMI box which then transmits it out. If you have an ambilight TV and link in Hue bulbs you do get a slight lag between built in lights and the external ones, which is noticeable when yo look when there is a big change in colour - I know this from personal experience with my own set up.

wjwren

4,484 posts

135 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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Anyone know if Hue are going to bring out a tile similar to Nanoleaf?

BigBen

11,641 posts

230 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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dapprman said:
Heartworm said:
It does not suffer lag.
You are comparing hue sync to things that are not part of hue. Hue sync receives a signal before your tv does.

I’m not a fan of it as a product as it doesn’t do 4K but it does what it does alright.
Putting aside my watching videos of it - unless we're talking about different uses, how can it get the signal before the TV ? The TV sends the signal to the HDMI box which then transmits it out. If you have an ambilight TV and link in Hue bulbs you do get a slight lag between built in lights and the external ones, which is noticeable when yo look when there is a big change in colour - I know this from personal experience with my own set up.
It sits between your source (sky box, dvd player, chromecast) and the TV so gets the signal before the TV, however 'before' is only provable on an expensive bit of measuring equipment rather than anything discernible to the eye or capable of making a significant difference to Hue performance. (unless Hue Sync buffers the video in some way but I doubt it does)

Heartworm

1,923 posts

161 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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dapprman said:
Putting aside my watching videos of it - unless we're talking about different uses, how can it get the signal before the TV ? The TV sends the signal to the HDMI box which then transmits it out. If you have an ambilight TV and link in Hue bulbs you do get a slight lag between built in lights and the external ones, which is noticeable when yo look when there is a big change in colour - I know this from personal experience with my own set up.
Source (sky/console/firestick) —> hue Sync —> TV

The tv sends nothing to hue sync (as mentioned in previous posts). The time between screen and light changes is measured at less than 7ms.
Different set up and a different product from your hue bulbs.

Edited by Heartworm on Wednesday 4th August 13:09

phil4

1,216 posts

238 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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Heartworm said:
Source (sky/console/firestick) —> hue Sync —> TV

The tv sends nothing to hue sync (as mentioned in previous posts). The time between screen and light changes is measured at less than 7ms.
Different set up and a different product from your hue bulbs.

Edited by Heartworm on Wednesday 4th August 13:09
Yep, thats how I do mine, but even further:

source -> Hue Sync -> AV Amp -> TV.

No noticeable lag.