Gigaclear broadband

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stabilio

569 posts

172 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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TartanPaint said:
OK, so at a quick glance it's a router and wireless access point all in one unit.

I'd recommend getting a separate wireless access point. You can turn off the wireless in the Genexis and use one of these:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/UBIQUITI-NETWORKS-UBI-UAP...

or there's a LR Long Range model if you have a large garden and want wider coverage. I wouldn't bother, just add another one later if you need it, eg upstairs/downstairs.

This range of kit is a favourite of mine, and somebody mentioned Ubiquiti already. I don't think you'd be disappointed with it.

You can experiment with positioning the new access point before permanently installing it (or just hanging it on the wall next to the Genexis), and see if solves the wifi speeds and drop-out/reboot issues.

If it does not, and the problem still lies with the Genexis, you can also replace the router with something else. (EDIT: Or maybe not, see Accelebrate's post above).

If you need to justify the cost, downgrade to the 200Mpbs service and spend the saving on hardware. You'll know yourself whether you're really making the most of the full 1Gbps, but as others have said, we can run entire offices on 100Mbps, so don't expect 200Mbps to be slow for your average household!!!

Incidentally, most ISP-issued hardware is a bit rubbish. It's never the good stuff. No excuse for it dropping out and needing rebooted though!
So this just plugs in to my Genexis router via ethernet, I disable wireless on the Genexis and then connect all our wireless devices to the Ubiquiti which should give better speeds and enhanced wi-fi coverage around the house?

Accelebrate

5,252 posts

216 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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Correct. If you can't disable wifi on the Gigaclear router just make sure the Unifi uses a different SSID and channels.

stabilio

569 posts

172 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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Accelebrate said:
Correct. If you can't disable wifi on the Gigaclear router just make sure the Unifi uses a different SSID and channels.
OK cheers and just ordered it smile Fingers crossed..

TartanPaint

2,989 posts

140 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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stabilio said:
OK cheers and just ordered it smile Fingers crossed..
Then you'll probably punch me in the virtual face for just discovering there's a better model for a few quid more:

http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/products/23765-ubi...

Sorry, it's been a while since I bought one. whistle

The 1300Mbps one you just ordered is cheaper on that site too.

stabilio

569 posts

172 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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TartanPaint said:
Then you'll probably punch me in the virtual face for just discovering there's a better model for a few quid more:

http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/products/23765-ubi...

Sorry, it's been a while since I bought one. whistle

The 1300Mbps one you just ordered is cheaper on that site too.
You dodged the blow as I managed to cancel the Amazon order before it got dispatched and ordered the better one smile

TartanPaint

2,989 posts

140 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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woohoo

Digitalize

2,850 posts

136 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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It's worth mentioning your devices need to support AC, and then it's particular standards within AC to achieve the speeds.

As its dual band it would be worth configuring the 5Ghz band as AC only if you have a few devices that are compatible with it. A wireless network is only as fast as the slowest device connected to it.

Accelebrate

5,252 posts

216 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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Digitalize said:
A wireless network is only as fast as the slowest device connected to it.
That's slightly misleading, as it makes it sound like all ac devices will operate at n speeds, or n devices at g speeds if you connect an older device to a network, which isn't the case.

I quite like this explanation:

davidgo said:
In simplified terms when the slow device is transmitting or receiving it means other devices can't use the space allocated to the slow device, which takes longer to do anything because its slow.
http://superuser.com/a/859116

Digitalize

2,850 posts

136 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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Accelebrate said:
As far as I was aware, when a network is multi speed (b/g/n for example) if only N devices are connected it is N speed, and then if a G device connects, the network is then G speed as it cannot 'see' the N network. I assume this is the reason for multi-band routers being able to work around this problem.

I could be completely wrong, but that's how I had it.

stabilio

569 posts

172 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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Are Ipads, Iphones, Android phones and Sky boxes AC compatible as thats whats our wi-fi is really used for.

Other stuff like Xbox/PS3/TV are all wired via power TP plugs.

Digitalize

2,850 posts

136 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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Depends on which ones, Sky Q boxes are AC but I don't think any of the others are. Apple devices it depends how old they are.

Accelebrate

5,252 posts

216 months

Thursday 23rd June 2016
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Digitalize said:
As far as I was aware, when a network is multi speed (b/g/n for example) if only N devices are connected it is N speed, and then if a G device connects, the network is then G speed as it cannot 'see' the N network. I assume this is the reason for multi-band routers being able to work around this problem.

I could be completely wrong, but that's how I had it.
That's thankfully not how it works!

It was sort-of-almost-but-not-quite-true when 802.11B devices on 802.11G access points were still a thing. Here's a more detailed explanation: http://superuser.com/a/431176

Multi-band routers exist to take advantage of the less congested 5GHz wireless band, rather than to segregate faster and slower devices. I wouldn't personally set my 5GHz network to AC only as I have quite a few devices that support 5GHz but are 802.11N.

Mattt

16,661 posts

219 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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Quickmoose- you still there? There's some noises about it coming my village shortly so would be keen to find out more accurate info.

Others who've got it - how are you getting on longer term?

Quickmoose

4,495 posts

124 months

Sunday 27th November 2016
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What village would that be?

beeej

1,400 posts

194 months

Thursday 12th January 2017
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I'm thinking of putting an offer in on a house in a village that is currently getting gigaclear. It's in the build phase, and the house is in the postcode for the village.

But... The house is on the edge of the village. First house if you like. And so the amount of tarmac to be pulled up is probably the most.

Can any of you tell me if there's any chance the furthest house in a village getting gigaclear is somehow, maybe in the t&cs, not going to get fttc?

Quickmoose

4,495 posts

124 months

Thursday 12th January 2017
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beeej said:
I'm thinking of putting an offer in on a house in a village that is currently getting gigaclear. It's in the build phase, and the house is in the postcode for the village.

But... The house is on the edge of the village. First house if you like. And so the amount of tarmac to be pulled up is probably the most.

Can any of you tell me if there's any chance the furthest house in a village getting gigaclear is somehow, maybe in the t&cs, not going to get fttc?
Very rare a house is missed off the build for any given community.
We have villages where farms and homes beyond a mile get included into the catchment area.
There will always be exceptions and reasons or excuses.... but I would suggest you'll be fine.

PM with an address and I can give a more definitive answer, if you want.

beeej

1,400 posts

194 months

Thursday 12th January 2017
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Thanks Moose, that's good of you to reply.

Dr Doofenshmirtz

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15,246 posts

201 months

Thursday 12th January 2017
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It's currently live where I live, but it's quite an expensive outlay - £200.
I'm hoping they will drop that?

Quickmoose

4,495 posts

124 months

Thursday 12th January 2017
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Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
It's currently live where I live, but it's quite an expensive outlay - £200.
I'm hoping they will drop that?
The install and activation cost is comparatively hard to swallow....
You can cut it down by doing the install yourself...but yeah I can't begin to pretend that's a positive aspect of what Gigaclear offer.
Thank god it's one off.

Luke.

11,002 posts

251 months

Thursday 12th January 2017
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Any news on a Kent/Tonbridge roll out?