Laptop email over mobile phone ?

Laptop email over mobile phone ?

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TUS 373

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4,507 posts

281 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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I have a notebook computer, recently equipped with a Belkin F8T002 Bluetooth PCMCIA card and a Nokia 6310i mobile, also with bluetooth. I can connect the devices so they see each other and would now like to be able to surf the web and collect email when I am out of the office, thing is, I don't know how!

I am on the T-Mobile network and have a GPRS service enabled on my airtime. However, neither the shop, T-Mobile or Nokia have been any good at helping me get everything connected and configured.

So..how do I do this and will T-Mobile be my ISP in this instance, or would I just be using the phone as a Dial Up Connection to the regular dial-up service of my broadband ISP? Help, I am very confused about all this and even googling does not help that much!

TIA, Bryan

PetrolTed

34,427 posts

303 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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I'd be very interested in this too. From what I've read I can't use GPRS to connect my laptop to the web, I'd need to use the phone as a modem instead. Why's that then?

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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Use the Nokia cable to connect to the 6310i, and set it to dial the ISP number.

TUS 373

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4,507 posts

281 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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Hi Podie,

Don't have the Nokia cable. Admittedly if I did, then I could load Nokia's own software. Their CDROM gives options for IR, cable and bluetooth - except with the bluetooth I would have to use THEIR PCMCIA card which they discontinued 2 years ago because it was poor. The software will not allow me to install the Noka bluetooth set up - instead saying I have to set up the modem manually. I assume this is what I have done as I now get a DUN connection screen.

So, assuming that I put in my ISP's tel number, my user name and password - that should work?

Will this be a GPRS connection or not? I don't see any options on my laptop tp configure it as this, thought there may be an option IIRC to set the baud rate manually. Hell, its complicated this.

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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TUS 373 said:
Hi Podie,

Don't have the Nokia cable. Admittedly if I did, then I could load Nokia's own software. Their CDROM gives options for IR, cable and bluetooth - except with the bluetooth I would have to use THEIR PCMCIA card which they discontinued 2 years ago because it was poor. The software will not allow me to install the Noka bluetooth set up - instead saying I have to set up the modem manually. I assume this is what I have done as I now get a DUN connection screen.

So, assuming that I put in my ISP's tel number, my user name and password - that should work?

Will this be a GPRS connection or not? I don't see any options on my laptop tp configure it as this, thought there may be an option IIRC to set the baud rate manually. Hell, its complicated this.


Not used one with Bluetooth, but I do seem to recall their were issues with the Nokia software and bluetooth.

I have used a 6310i connected via the Nokia cable (serial and USB variants) and used DUN to configure the modem side of things. It was a simple case of imputting the username, password and selecting the ISP number (in the case of Orange, who I use they had a special number to use) and then it was fine.

I have not tried GPRS for this, as I now use an Orange SPV C500 on it's own to connect to e-mail when on the move...

Psychobert

6,316 posts

256 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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Used to use a 6310 then a Sony Z600 with my ipaq over bluetooth. Once you set up the partnership the phone needs to dial *99# to get ontp the T mobile network. IIRC the username and password can both be left blank though you might need to tweak advanced settings to get your ISP mailservers to talk to you. You will also need to set up the email on the laptop with all the right settings to send and receive email. You might find you need to use T mobiles SMTP server to send mail, I'd found with both plusnet and tiscali on O2 the T mobile I had to use the phone company's smtp rather than my isp. Once I got that figured all was ok.

BTW, I think all mobile networsk use *99# to access gprs..

rude girl

6,937 posts

259 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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I have a Nokia 6310i, and use it to dial in to my work server with the laptop. I've had chronic trouble getting it to connect - it worked fine connecting to my old laptop with IR, but will have none of it with my new one (both Tosh), and I have to use the cable. It was only about £20 IIRC. Still have the occasional freeze and have to reboot both phone and laptop.

Can't get it to pair with the PDA on bluetooth either incidentally.

squirrelz

1,186 posts

271 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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I don't have GPRS enabled, and I don't have a bluetooth dongle, so I can't try it, but have a look at this website
www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html

Theres a section at the bottom entitled GPRS via a modem that explains what you have to do.

GregE240

10,857 posts

267 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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Podie said:

TUS 373 said:
Hi Podie,

Don't have the Nokia cable. Admittedly if I did, then I could load Nokia's own software. Their CDROM gives options for IR, cable and bluetooth - except with the bluetooth I would have to use THEIR PCMCIA card which they discontinued 2 years ago because it was poor. The software will not allow me to install the Noka bluetooth set up - instead saying I have to set up the modem manually. I assume this is what I have done as I now get a DUN connection screen.

So, assuming that I put in my ISP's tel number, my user name and password - that should work?

Will this be a GPRS connection or not? I don't see any options on my laptop tp configure it as this, thought there may be an option IIRC to set the baud rate manually. Hell, its complicated this.



Not used one with Bluetooth, but I do seem to recall their were issues with the Nokia software and bluetooth.

I have used a 6310i connected via the Nokia cable (serial and USB variants) and used DUN to configure the modem side of things. It was a simple case of imputting the username, password and selecting the ISP number (in the case of Orange, who I use they had a special number to use) and then it was fine.

I have not tried GPRS for this, as I now use an Orange SPV C500 on it's own to connect to e-mail when on the move...
But thats probably an HSCSD connection rather than GPRS - isn't it?

I'd love to know how to do this as my new personal phone has GPRS capabilities, but only get cacky GSM dialup 9.6 rate when I use it.....poxy thing.

Podie

46,630 posts

275 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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GregE240 said:

But thats probably an HSCSD connection rather than GPRS - isn't it?


TUS 373

Original Poster:

4,507 posts

281 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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Psychobert said:
Used to use a 6310 then a Sony Z600 with my ipaq over bluetooth. Once you set up the partnership the phone needs to dial *99# to get ontp the T mobile network. IIRC the username and password can both be left blank though you might need to tweak advanced settings to get your ISP mailservers to talk to you. You will also need to set up the email on the laptop with all the right settings to send and receive email. You might find you need to use T mobiles SMTP server to send mail, I'd found with both plusnet and tiscali on O2 the T mobile I had to use the phone company's smtp rather than my isp. Once I got that figured all was ok.

BTW, I think all mobile networsk use *99# to access gprs..


Cool. You are the man. Went to DUN on the laptop, just put in *99# with nothing else - and it WORKED FIRST TIME ! Hurrah! My internet and email worked perfectly - nothing else needed doing and it was full strength GPRS all the way - as shown by the G symbol being displayed on the phone. It was THAT easy in the end.

Fantastic - really pleased. Once again, the shared power of PHs triumphs when faced with technological adversity. Thanks everyone - really appreciated by one very happy bunny here.

softwaresorcerer

437 posts

249 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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It's a three stage process:

1. Set the phone to access the internet (Not WAP) using GPRS. This differs for each network, but the info is readily available with a quick Google.
2. Pair the phone and laptop.
3. Dial using the 'Bluetooth Modem' with phone number '*99#'. This ensures the phone will connect to its default gprs connection point.

PetrolTed

34,427 posts

303 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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TUS 373

Original Poster:

4,507 posts

281 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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all the way !!!

GregE240

10,857 posts

267 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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Fan bleedin tastic!!!

460kbps connection.....marvellous!

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,809 posts

240 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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GregE240 said:
Fan bleedin tastic!!!

460kbps connection.....marvellous!


Err over GPRS? Nah, about 38kbps is the limit.

vex

5,256 posts

246 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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Caution, the DUN number for my Orange/ T610 connection is different. *99***2#

Not sure the ISP bit got answered.

Basically your mobile service provider will become your ISP for any connection over it.

So although you will be able to collect your emails you need to set you lappy to use a SMTP adress to the T-Mobile one.

Mine is smtp.orange.net for orange (obviously) so try something similar if you don't know it.

I then went a stage further and set up an extra email account in Outlook caller (office - Mobile) so if I am using the GPRS connection and can send via that. It saves gooing into the account every time to change it.

piquet

614 posts

257 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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just a note of caution

i used to use gprs for my powerbook, but i got rid of it because it was so slow, so unreliable and because it kept resedning data due to it's bad connection, it would chew through my data allowance in no time and then start running up the bill

sybaseian

1,826 posts

275 months

Friday 4th March 2005
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Guys,

if any of you use vodaphone, you can download all the necessary software from them and use the nokia cable.

I use this when on call for work at the weekends when away from home - pistonfest 2004 was a prime example of being on call and using gprs to login to work from the middle of a field....