Does facebook listen to conversations??
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V8mate said:
TonyRPH said:
Which brings me to the conclusion that the only any information can be gleaned is via listening....
How can FB be listening if you don't even have it installed?TonyRPH said:
Wife out in car with son, son has iPhone with Siri enabled (also has Facebook) - he has denied access to microphone though.
They were discussing a particular item - wife gets home and adverts for said item on Facebook appear within minutes of logging in.
We don't - son (both sons actually) does.They were discussing a particular item - wife gets home and adverts for said item on Facebook appear within minutes of logging in.
Hence our testing involves discussions when they (sons) are around.
We have also tested with the Amazon FireTV (which now supports Alexa commands too).
Early days yet.
Hmmm, not Facebook, probably Google...
We’ve been looking after the stepson’s dog, we drop her off in the car in her bed. She’s always belted in in her harness.
I’ve never searched in any way shape or form for dog harnesses but guess what came up while I was looking for muscle vests on Amazon, sodding dog seatbelts.
It’s too specifically random to be a fluke, I’ve never searched for or mentioned anything dog related until now..
We’ve been looking after the stepson’s dog, we drop her off in the car in her bed. She’s always belted in in her harness.
I’ve never searched in any way shape or form for dog harnesses but guess what came up while I was looking for muscle vests on Amazon, sodding dog seatbelts.
It’s too specifically random to be a fluke, I’ve never searched for or mentioned anything dog related until now..
WinstonWolf said:
Hmmm, not Facebook, probably Google...
We’ve been looking after the stepson’s dog, we drop her off in the car in her bed. She’s always belted in in her harness.
I’ve never searched in any way shape or form for dog harnesses but guess what came up while I was looking for muscle vests on Amazon, sodding dog seatbelts.
It’s too specifically random to be a fluke, I’ve never searched for or mentioned anything dog related until now..
if you've never searched for it then why would you assume it was google?We’ve been looking after the stepson’s dog, we drop her off in the car in her bed. She’s always belted in in her harness.
I’ve never searched in any way shape or form for dog harnesses but guess what came up while I was looking for muscle vests on Amazon, sodding dog seatbelts.
It’s too specifically random to be a fluke, I’ve never searched for or mentioned anything dog related until now..
Android phone with OK Google enabled. We’ve often spoken about securing her in the car but I’ve never searched for or discussed anything dog related online until now.
Similar thing happened with beds, Mrs moans about sleeping badly, my phone is on the side at night. Suddenly I got loads of bed adverts...
Similar thing happened with beds, Mrs moans about sleeping badly, my phone is on the side at night. Suddenly I got loads of bed adverts...
WinstonWolf said:
Android phone with OK Google enabled. We’ve often spoken about securing her in the car but I’ve never searched for or discussed anything dog related online until now.
Similar thing happened with beds, Mrs moans about sleeping badly, my phone is on the side at night. Suddenly I got loads of bed adverts...
ah i see what you're saying. Well TBH i think both Siri and Google voice both listen. So does Alexa, so do they all. Similar thing happened with beds, Mrs moans about sleeping badly, my phone is on the side at night. Suddenly I got loads of bed adverts...
Android users, what are you seeing the adverts in? Is it in apps or when browsing the internet?
Reason I ask is that Firefox (or Waterfox, which is better but needs you to download the APK from their site and enable non-store APKs to be installed) allows plugins on Android, meaning uBlock Origin can be installed, which means you can browse ad-free.
If it is ads in apps/games, then I've got those neutered by way of a PiHole when my phone is on my local wifi. I could set it up to route all traffic through my PiHole via a VPN if I was truly bothered about ads, but my setup hits the sweet spot for me right now between not seeing ads, and not tweaking for hours to get it all stable.
Also, neither of these options require root access, so stuff like Android Pay/Samsung Pay etc. will still work fine.
Reason I ask is that Firefox (or Waterfox, which is better but needs you to download the APK from their site and enable non-store APKs to be installed) allows plugins on Android, meaning uBlock Origin can be installed, which means you can browse ad-free.
If it is ads in apps/games, then I've got those neutered by way of a PiHole when my phone is on my local wifi. I could set it up to route all traffic through my PiHole via a VPN if I was truly bothered about ads, but my setup hits the sweet spot for me right now between not seeing ads, and not tweaking for hours to get it all stable.
Also, neither of these options require root access, so stuff like Android Pay/Samsung Pay etc. will still work fine.
This was a “you may also like” on Amazon. I’m not overly concerned but there is absolutely no possibility that the suggestion is related to anything I’ve ever done online.
It’s also completely out of character for my usual suggestions which typically relate to things I discuss/search.
It’s also completely out of character for my usual suggestions which typically relate to things I discuss/search.
Mr Happy said:
Android users, what are you seeing the adverts in? Is it in apps or when browsing the internet?
Reason I ask is that Firefox (or Waterfox, which is better but needs you to download the APK from their site and enable non-store APKs to be installed) allows plugins on Android, meaning uBlock Origin can be installed, which means you can browse ad-free.
If it is ads in apps/games, then I've got those neutered by way of a PiHole when my phone is on my local wifi. I could set it up to route all traffic through my PiHole via a VPN if I was truly bothered about ads, but my setup hits the sweet spot for me right now between not seeing ads, and not tweaking for hours to get it all stable.
Also, neither of these options require root access, so stuff like Android Pay/Samsung Pay etc. will still work fine.
the point is that these ads are in apps, not websites. They are also across all devices you may want to use the same google/iCloud account across. Reason I ask is that Firefox (or Waterfox, which is better but needs you to download the APK from their site and enable non-store APKs to be installed) allows plugins on Android, meaning uBlock Origin can be installed, which means you can browse ad-free.
If it is ads in apps/games, then I've got those neutered by way of a PiHole when my phone is on my local wifi. I could set it up to route all traffic through my PiHole via a VPN if I was truly bothered about ads, but my setup hits the sweet spot for me right now between not seeing ads, and not tweaking for hours to get it all stable.
Also, neither of these options require root access, so stuff like Android Pay/Samsung Pay etc. will still work fine.
Blown2CV said:
Mr Happy said:
Android users, what are you seeing the adverts in? Is it in apps or when browsing the internet?
Reason I ask is that Firefox (or Waterfox, which is better but needs you to download the APK from their site and enable non-store APKs to be installed) allows plugins on Android, meaning uBlock Origin can be installed, which means you can browse ad-free.
If it is ads in apps/games, then I've got those neutered by way of a PiHole when my phone is on my local wifi. I could set it up to route all traffic through my PiHole via a VPN if I was truly bothered about ads, but my setup hits the sweet spot for me right now between not seeing ads, and not tweaking for hours to get it all stable.
Also, neither of these options require root access, so stuff like Android Pay/Samsung Pay etc. will still work fine.
the point is that these ads are in apps, not websites. They are also across all devices you may want to use the same google/iCloud account across. Reason I ask is that Firefox (or Waterfox, which is better but needs you to download the APK from their site and enable non-store APKs to be installed) allows plugins on Android, meaning uBlock Origin can be installed, which means you can browse ad-free.
If it is ads in apps/games, then I've got those neutered by way of a PiHole when my phone is on my local wifi. I could set it up to route all traffic through my PiHole via a VPN if I was truly bothered about ads, but my setup hits the sweet spot for me right now between not seeing ads, and not tweaking for hours to get it all stable.
Also, neither of these options require root access, so stuff like Android Pay/Samsung Pay etc. will still work fine.
Install PiHole on an RPI
Install PiVPN on the same Pi
Set up a forwarding rule on your router to allow VPN connections to whatever port PiVPN likes and forward the traffic to the IP it is set up on
Make a VPN connection from your phone to the external IP of your router, it should connect through to PiVPN and be like another device on your internal LAN
As long as DHCP is set correctly, it will use the PiHole as the DNS for outbound traffic (as with everything else on the LAN) and you won't see (as many, if any) ads in apps, as the PiHole will be filtering and the VPN connection is routing all traffic from the phone through an encrypted tunnel to your home LAN and doing lookups via the PiHole as above.
Edited by Mr Happy on Sunday 4th February 20:28
Blown2CV said:
so as long as you never leave the house, you're maybe fine!
Nope, that's where the VPN comes in. Connecting to the VPN uses your phone's data connection when you're out and about - instead of just sending your data to your phone provider, then out onto the net - it sends it directly to your home LAN, wherever you are via an encrypted tunnel.Another benefit of this is that as you're not using your phone provider's DNS, and the VPN encryption is generally at least AES 256 CBC or better, they can't traffic snoop to see what sites you're connecting to.
A downside though can be anywhere from slightly to drastically slower internet speeds, depending on multiple factors - some controllable, some not so.
Mr Happy said:
Blown2CV said:
so as long as you never leave the house, you're maybe fine!
Nope, that's where the VPN comes in. Connecting to the VPN uses your phone's data connection when you're out and about - instead of just sending your data to your phone provider, then out onto the net - it sends it directly to your home LAN, wherever you are via an encrypted tunnel.Another benefit of this is that as you're not using your phone provider's DNS, and the VPN encryption is generally at least AES 256 CBC or better, they can't traffic snoop to see what sites you're connecting to.
A downside though can be anywhere from slightly to drastically slower internet speeds, depending on multiple factors - some controllable, some not so.
Blown2CV said:
sounds like it would be a better idea to just not have a phone.
Different strokes for different folks, really.I'm an unashamed geek - you've probably already got this by the posts above (!), so I don't mind doing this kind of tweakery occasionally as it's a bit of a challenge and I like that kind of thing.
Others might want stuff to just work - which to their credit, Android and Apple phones do well, but there are some concerns surrounding privacy that can mean something to some people and nothing to others.
As with everything in tech, there's the easy way, the fast way, and the secure way - the catch is, you can only have two of those three options at any one time.
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