Is there any point in buying New phones at the moment?

[hyphen]

bagusbagus said:

Personally I'm waiting for the day when they will be able to stuff a desktop-pc CPU power in a phone so we can just plug a phone to monitor and have a desktop pc power but until that....

More or less everyone I know have the latest and the best phones, so I have toyed around with all of them but seems like any progress has stopped in the last 3-4years? Sure more ram gets stuffed in phones, a bit faster cpu's but still I have a cheap Moto g 3rd that is able to do everything that the latest flagship can, there's not a single thing that I'm really missing out on, ok you can take 10% better pictures , can load a game 2sec faster than my cheap old phone but that's about it really?

I would agree.

The only reason worth upgrading from your Motorola G3 would be if your lifestyle would benefit from faster charging speed- as Quick charge 2.0 was a good leap forward in charging time reduction. But again no need to get the latest as Quickcharge 3.0 was not a massive time improvement over 2.0 so an older phone will do fine.

[funkyrobot]

768 said:

funkyrobot said:

I bought my Wileyfox Swift last June for around £120. It's on a sim only rolling monthly deal which costs me £10.00.

I see no reason to go for anything more expensive as the Swift does everything I need and more. Personally, I can't see why anyone would spend £100's and £100's on a phone. Each to their own though.

Just had a look at the specs of it's successor. A bit more expensive but does look like a lot of phone for the money.

I can't speak for the latest models, but my Swift is indeed a whole lot of kit for the cash.

Personally, it does everything I need and it does this really well. I'd be mad spending £100's just to get something with a slightly bigger screen or a shiny surface.

I think it's due to move from Cyanogen to full fat Android soon too.

[Bhuvsta]

I recently updated from an original Galaxy Note to the S7. Not because I wanted to, but because it ran out of internal space for updating apps. That was a huge jump in performance over several generations of phone. Depending on the tasks you use your phone, modern phone updates bring unnecessary minor improvements for a lot of money. However, I feel that I'll be replacing the phone sooner primarily due to the inability to easily swap out batteries.

With regards to the OP, the lastest Samsung phones have DeX allowing you to plug it into a monitor for a 'pc-like' interface.

[bagusbagus]

hyphen said:

I would agree.

The only reason worth upgrading from your Motorola G3 would be if your lifestyle would benefit from faster charging speed- as Quick charge 2.0 was a good leap forward in charging time reduction. But again no need to get the latest as Quickcharge 3.0 was not a massive time improvement over 2.0 so an older phone will do fine.

how long does it takes to charge a phone over the latest quickchargers?
I charge mine only every 3-4days and it takes about 60-70minutes to charge from 10% to 95% with 1.1a charger.

[funkyrobot]

funkyrobot said:

768 said:

funkyrobot said:

I bought my Wileyfox Swift last June for around £120. It's on a sim only rolling monthly deal which costs me £10.00.

I see no reason to go for anything more expensive as the Swift does everything I need and more. Personally, I can't see why anyone would spend £100's and £100's on a phone. Each to their own though.

Just had a look at the specs of it's successor. A bit more expensive but does look like a lot of phone for the money.

I can't speak for the latest models, but my Swift is indeed a whole lot of kit for the cash.

Personally, it does everything I need and it does this really well. I'd be mad spending £100's just to get something with a slightly bigger screen or a shiny surface.

I think it's due to move from Cyanogen to full fat Android soon too.

As if by magic, and update notification has just appeared on my Swift. Android Nougat is now available for it. I'll update it after the weekend.

[hyphen]

bagusbagus said:

how long does it takes to charge a phone over the latest quickchargers?
I charge mine only every 3-4days and it takes about 60-70minutes to charge from 10% to 95% with 1.1a charger.

Will depend on the phone but the below shows the difference, . If you only charge 3-4 days then probably not worth you upgrading for it, mine is charged daily.

https://www.easyacc.com/media-center/quick-charge-...

Edited by hyphen on Friday 28th April 19:26

[Jonny_]

FunkyNige said:

The problem with that is that on certain phones they won't update the software to the latest version, fine if you just call and text but I can imagine banking apps in the not too distant future demanding the latest Android software in order to run.
My phone (Sony Z3C) is not being upgraded so come November I'll be looking for a new phone even though this one does all I want at the moment.

I'm also still using a Z3 Compact. Bought it about 2 years ago and still quite happy with it, but as you say the lack of any update beyond the current Android 6.0.1 will eventually push me toward replacing a perfectly good phone.

While I don't like much about the Apple/iOS ecosystem, they do at least keep their products up to date for a decent length of time (5 years IIRC?).

[hyphen]

Jonny_ said:

I'm also still using a Z3 Compact. Bought it about 2 years ago and still quite happy with it, but as you say the lack of any update beyond the current Android 6.0.1 will eventually push me toward replacing a perfectly good phone.

While I don't like much about the Apple/iOS ecosystem, they do at least keep their products up to date for a decent length of time (5 years IIRC?).

Its one of the reasons I went for nexus. My old nexus 6 phone is regularly updated with patches (and NSA spyware I imagine) and is on android 7.

[Jimmy Recard]

Sony does seem to be particularly bad at getting updates out. My last three phones were a Z1, Z2 and Z5 Compact and now an iPhone SE. Swings and roundabouts on the benefits and talents of each, but Apple does seem better at updating

[jamoor]

That's one massive downside of all android devices, they have very limited software support and updates.

Even the pixel is 2 years.

If they do update it it can be many months before you see an update

[FunkyNige]

hyphen said:

Its one of the reasons I went for nexus. My old nexus 6 phone is regularly updated with patches (and NSA spyware I imagine) and is on android 7.

Sorry, you'll stop getting security patches in October this year. This article just appeared on The Register looking into it, I can't imagine any of the other Android manufacturers being any better
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/01/google_eo...
"In a quiet update just before the weekend, the Chocolate Factory [Google] revealed both the Nexus 6 and Nexus 9 will no longer receive guaranteed security updates as of October of this year. The Nexus 6P and 5X will stop getting guaranteed security patches in September 2018."

[Tycho]

jamoor said:

That's one massive downside of all android devices, they have very limited software support and updates.

Even the pixel is 2 years.

If they do update it it can be many months before you see an update

TBH if you update a 2 year old Apple device then it will usually slow down so much you'd wish you hadn't got an update

[bagusbagus]

I feel the constant android ''security '' updates are slowing down my phone as well.
It's just a trick for them to sell new phones to you by not updating them anymore and making them worthless because you can't run the latest apps...

[funkyrobot]

My Wileyfox Swift is now running Android Nougat 7.1.1.

Cyanogen is no more on my device.

[AJB88]

FunkyNige said:

Sorry, you'll stop getting security patches in October this year. This article just appeared on The Register looking into it, I can't imagine any of the other Android manufacturers being any better
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/01/google_eo...
"In a quiet update just before the weekend, the Chocolate Factory [Google] revealed both the Nexus 6 and Nexus 9 will no longer receive guaranteed security updates as of October of this year. The Nexus 6P and 5X will stop getting guaranteed security patches in September 2018."

Guranteed doesn't mean they will 100% stop though. Usually you get another 6 months at least after they stop "guaranteeing it"

[Mammasaid]

AJB88 said:

FunkyNige said:

Sorry, you'll stop getting security patches in October this year. This article just appeared on The Register looking into it, I can't imagine any of the other Android manufacturers being any better
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/01/google_eo...
"In a quiet update just before the weekend, the Chocolate Factory [Google] revealed both the Nexus 6 and Nexus 9 will no longer receive guaranteed security updates as of October of this year. The Nexus 6P and 5X will stop getting guaranteed security patches in September 2018."

Guranteed doesn't mean they will 100% stop though. Usually you get another 6 months at least after they stop "guaranteeing it"

Exactly, the Nexus 6 was only 'guaranteed' updates to Oct '16, but has been updated to Nougat post that.

I'm in the same boat, nothing I'm looking at seems to float my boat at the mo, and make me think about ditching the 6.

[alock]

OnePlus 5 is due very soon for anyone looking for a reasonably priced but high-spec phone.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/oneplus-5-relea...

[AJB88]

Mammasaid said:

Exactly, the Nexus 6 was only 'guaranteed' updates to Oct '16, but has been updated to Nougat post that.

I'm in the same boat, nothing I'm looking at seems to float my boat at the mo, and make me think about ditching the 6.

I'm in the same boat with my Nexus 6P.

Pixel was a huge jump in price but in my opinion not enough of an upgrade to justify the price. Since having a few Nexus I can't go back to something like Samsung.

[jamoor]

AJB88 said:

I'm in the same boat with my Nexus 6P.

Pixel was a huge jump in price but in my opinion not enough of an upgrade to justify the price. Since having a few Nexus I can't go back to something like Samsung.

Indeed the last Samsung worth buying was the S4.
All downhill from there.

[AJB88]

jamoor said:

Indeed the last Samsung worth buying was the S4.
All downhill from there.

Literally last one I had, had Nexus 4, HTC One M8 (converted to Google Play Editon) and then Nexus 5 and Nexus 6P.