IPhone 8 ?

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LordGrover

33,549 posts

213 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Vaud said:
WhatsApp is, arguably better than iMessage. Not least it is platform independent. I find I'm using it more and more.
WhatsApp is not bundled on any platform is it?
I've installed it on many devices, both iPhone and Android but so few of my contacts have it it's not worth the bother. At least iMessages are received as SMS text if non-iphone recipient.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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There are people without WhatsApp!?

HTP99

22,600 posts

141 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Rawwr said:
There are people without WhatsApp!?
Exactly, I don'y know anyone with a phone who doesn't have it, it's pretty much the default messaging app.

ZesPak

24,435 posts

197 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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LordGrover said:
Vaud said:
WhatsApp is, arguably better than iMessage. Not least it is platform independent. I find I'm using it more and more.
WhatsApp is not bundled on any platform is it?
I've installed it on many devices, both iPhone and Android but so few of my contacts have it it's not worth the bother. At least iMessages are received as SMS text if non-iphone recipient.
I don't really like whatsapp, but I don't think I have contacts <50yo without whatsapp.
They do have a web client nowadays, not the best thing but very handy imho.

Platform dependability in case of a messaging apps is a bit silly imho.
I had a particular distaste for the fact that, having an iPhone and an iPad didn't allow me to read my iMessages on my computer. I should have bought an iMac for that :/ Don't know if they fixed it by now though.

Seems like in this case WhatsApp has won the battle by big margin, despite not being the greatest app imho.
Platform independence is a key factor there.

EmilA

1,527 posts

158 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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I thought I'd check if there were any phones still available when I got home from work (19:15 on Friday) and surprisingly there were still options of collecting phones in store on release day.

As I have ordered mine for home delivery, will I get it on release day? It says delivery on 22 Sept via standard shipping, which I am assuming it means that I get it on the day? Apologies if I'm being thick as custard here!

ZesPak

24,435 posts

197 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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schmunk

4,399 posts

126 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Tycho said:
The biggest issue I see with WhatsApp is that you need a phone number for it. My boy has an iPad with no cellular connection and he uses imessage with all his friends but I still have to email him because I'm on android.


http://www.techbout.com/whatsapp-without-phone-num...

Tycho

11,636 posts

274 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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ZesPak

24,435 posts

197 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Tycho said:
If they only had the ability to login to the account via email rather than or instead of sms then they could cleanup the messaging space IMO, especially if they had a deal to bundle in with Android. Google needs to forget messaging of their own as they have had a number of tries and given up on them but that is their style, as they did it with Wave for social as well. iMessage would be the standard if it waw opened up to non Apple devices but hell will freeze over before that happens which is a shame.
Indeed. But whatsapp is Facebook now so equally implausible re the Google deal.

No idea what FB is going to do with their chat and WhatsApp long term though.

otolith

56,220 posts

205 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Brainpox said:
It really isn't all that hard to migrate. It'll take an hour, if that. Major services all have inbuilt migration tools. Once it's done you're ready to use any Android phone and you're open to hundreds of new devices.
I mean that I can't be arsed researching the hardware and the alternative apps and services and which devices I have that are ios only. I have something that works. I guess I just don't find phones very interesting of themselves.

Tycho

11,636 posts

274 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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schmunk said:
Tycho said:
The biggest issue I see with WhatsApp is that you need a phone number for it. My boy has an iPad with no cellular connection and he uses imessage with all his friends but I still have to email him because I'm on android.


http://www.techbout.com/whatsapp-without-phone-num...
Will try this later, thanks.

Shiv_P

2,750 posts

106 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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All my friends, family etc use whatsapp
But then we don't use iPhone at all because.... smile

Vaud

50,617 posts

156 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Tycho said:
iMessage would be the standard if it waw opened up to non Apple devices but hell will freeze over before that happens which is a shame.
Given they open up iTunes and other apps to Windows, I don't understand why they don't provide at least a Windows client.

Or go the whole way and open source it.

JamieBeeston

9,294 posts

266 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Tycho said:
schmunk said:
Tycho said:
The biggest issue I see with WhatsApp is that you need a phone number for it. My boy has an iPad with no cellular connection and he uses imessage with all his friends but I still have to email him because I'm on android.


http://www.techbout.com/whatsapp-without-phone-num...
Will try this later, thanks.
or just go to http://web.whatsapp.com and then on your phone, Settings, WhatsApp Web/Desktop, scan the QR code, and you have all your WhatsApp chats on a web page (there is also an App in the App store for Macs too!)

ashleyman

6,987 posts

100 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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JamieBeeston said:
Tycho said:
schmunk said:
Tycho said:
The biggest issue I see with WhatsApp is that you need a phone number for it. My boy has an iPad with no cellular connection and he uses imessage with all his friends but I still have to email him because I'm on android.


http://www.techbout.com/whatsapp-without-phone-num...
Will try this later, thanks.
or just go to http://web.whatsapp.com and then on your phone, Settings, WhatsApp Web/Desktop, scan the QR code, and you have all your WhatsApp chats on a web page (there is also an App in the App store for Macs too!)
That only works if you have set up WhatsApp which requires a phone number.

JamieBeeston

9,294 posts

266 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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ashleyman said:
JamieBeeston said:
Tycho said:
schmunk said:
Tycho said:
The biggest issue I see with WhatsApp is that you need a phone number for it. My boy has an iPad with no cellular connection and he uses imessage with all his friends but I still have to email him because I'm on android.


http://www.techbout.com/whatsapp-without-phone-num...
Will try this later, thanks.
or just go to http://web.whatsapp.com and then on your phone, Settings, WhatsApp Web/Desktop, scan the QR code, and you have all your WhatsApp chats on a web page (there is also an App in the App store for Macs too!)
That only works if you have set up WhatsApp which requires a phone number.
Sure,

but most people have a phone on which they can install WhatsApp, and then access it on a different device which isn't a phone (like the chaps boss on his iPad)

anyway, more options never hurts smile

randlemarcus

13,528 posts

232 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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JamieBeeston said:
Sure,

but most people have a phone on which they can install WhatsApp, and then access it on a different device which isn't a phone (like the chaps boss on his iPad)

anyway, more options never hurts smile
Boy, not boss biggrin Which makes the lack of cellular perfectly rational, all children being data monsters.

JamieBeeston

9,294 posts

266 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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randlemarcus said:
JamieBeeston said:
Sure,

but most people have a phone on which they can install WhatsApp, and then access it on a different device which isn't a phone (like the chaps boss on his iPad)

anyway, more options never hurts smile
Boy, not boss biggrin Which makes the lack of cellular perfectly rational, all children being data monsters.
That'll learn me smile

getmecoat

Tycho

11,636 posts

274 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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JamieBeeston said:
That'll learn me smile

getmecoat
hehe I'm sure he'd bankrupt me very quickly watching cat videos...

Brainpox

4,057 posts

152 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Surprising to see someone say barely anyone they know uses WhatsApp. Over a billion people use it every day.

The fact you need a phone number is great to have it work with your existing contacts. Usernames/emails/PINs are messy.