PC to Mac as painlessly as possible

[craigjm]

Bikerjon said:

So do I, but 10 being better than previous versions still isn't really good enough for many people now. They've come to rely on the "instant on" ways of iPads and iPhones while their Windows 10 machines endlessly applies another round of updates!

Thing is Mac OS isnt the same as iOS and it has lots of updates, is not instant on etc etc.

[schmunk]

dmsims said:

I see a lot of different PC's running lots of software in a lot of environments

10 has been better than all versions before

Agreed.

[justinio]

craigjm said:

Thing is Mac OS isnt the same as iOS and it has lots of updates, is not instant on etc etc.

Exactly this.

OP might be in for a bit of disappointment if he thinks his Mac is going to be a similar experience to his iPhone.

There really is very little difference these days between MAC OSX and Windows 10. Both companies steal the best bits from each other.

People have this misconception that Mac's are bulletproof and just never go wrong. This couldnt be further from the truth. I have just as many issues with my Mac as I do with my PC. Beach balling, and kernel panics do get tedious after a while. Since using Windows 10 (when it was released) I'm yet to see a blue screen of death.

[dmsims]

If the OP does go Mac I suggest he familarises himself with Terminal

[Bikerjon]

dmsims said:

If the OP does go Mac I suggest he familarises himself with Terminal

Rubbish! Regedit on the other hand...

[Bikerjon]

craigjm said:

Thing is Mac OS isnt the same as iOS and it has lots of updates, is not instant on etc etc.

Well yes obviously! Thing is the update process on a Mac isn't quite as instrusive. Updates tend to fix things rather than fix one thing but break something else. My Mac is rebooted once a month, so it is almost always "instant on"
I'm not saying all Apple software is perfect by any means, but I personally feel the reliability and general user satisfaction is a lot higher.

[So]

It’s done. I’ve bought a MacBook.

Of course I realise that this probably makes me a dunce, someone who should have worked harder at school, a remoaner, a left-hand thread, Betamax, Uri Geller.

But I don’t care.

As I handed over my card, I wept a tear of nostalgia as I remembered every Microsoft adware message urging me to upgrade for free from stware to stware.1

Having to find printer drivers because the thirteenth software update of the day took down the printer.

Viruses.

Marjorie from online support forum giving me completely incorrect information in boiler plate format.

Integration stopping working because Microsoft pulled one of its products without telling anyone either before or after, not even the support staff.

My first try of Windows 8.

I am going to miss Tiny Elvis though.

I look forward to a utopia of hassle-free computing and rolling out Macs globally.

And if you think I am going to give you bds the satisfaction of letting you know when it all goes wrong, you’ve got another think coming.

[bitchstewie]

Congrats

They do mostly "just work" but of course you do also get the odd issue.

I stayed out of the thread because it usually turns into the usual Mac v Windows st.

If it's any consolation I look after a reasonably sized Windows network and at home I've used a Mac for around 10 years simply because it isn't coming home to "more of the same".

I can't think of much that I've needed to do that it cannot do so I'm sure you'll be absolutely fine.

[Troubleatmill]

So said:

It’s done. I’ve bought a MacBook.

Of course I realise that this probably makes me a dunce, someone who should have worked harder at school, a remoaner, a left-hand thread, Betamax, Uri Geller.

But I don’t care.

As I handed over my card, I wept a tear of nostalgia as I remembered every Microsoft adware message urging me to upgrade for free from stware to stware.1

Having to find printer drivers because the thirteenth software update of the day took down the printer.

Viruses.

Marjorie from online support forum giving me completely incorrect information in boiler plate format.

Integration stopping working because Microsoft pulled one of its products without telling anyone either before or after, not even the support staff.

My first try of Windows 8.

I am going to miss Tiny Elvis though.

I look forward to a utopia of hassle-free computing and rolling out Macs globally.

And if you think I am going to give you bds the satisfaction of letting you know when it all goes wrong, you’ve got another think coming.

Go to settings and switch your firewall on ( for some reason it is off as default )
Get a copy of cleanmymac3 from macpaw ( to have a one button push - to clean up every couple of weeks )
Bitdefender Anti virus

And you are done.

Microsoft Office on the Mac is pretty good too.

[deckster]

So said:

And if you think I am going to give you bds the satisfaction of letting you know when it all goes wrong, you’ve got another think coming.

[craigjm]

So said:

As I handed over my card, I wept a tear of nostalgia as I remembered every Microsoft adware message urging me to upgrade for free from stware to stware.1

That doesn’t go away. My Mac is still nagging me to upgrade to high sierra

[AJB88]

Next post will be telling everybody how much better his £1200 machine is than the previous £200 one.

[So]

AJB88 said:

Next post will be telling everybody how much better his £1200 machine is than the previous £200 one.

£849 and £500 in point of fact, if you're referring to my last to computer purchases. The former being the Macbook, the latter being an HP W10 machine.

I started setting it up yesterday and so far it seems pretty simple. The security seems over the top, mind you.

[Brainpox]

Quite a lot of angry Windows users here. Maybe you should try using Macs?

[AJB88]

So said:

£849 and £500 in point of fact, if you're referring to my last to computer purchases. The former being the Macbook, the latter being an HP W10 machine.

I started setting it up yesterday and so far it seems pretty simple. The security seems over the top, mind you.

That's Unix for you, everything has to be done once a password has been entered.

I prefer it this way.

[mikeiow]

craigjm said:

So said:

As I handed over my card, I wept a tear of nostalgia as I remembered every Microsoft adware message urging me to upgrade for free from stware to stware.1

That doesn’t go away. My Mac is still nagging me to upgrade to high sierra

LOL: indeed, and I am resisting: nothing exciting beyond the El Cap release I'm on, although I know one day I will give in!
Interesting thread. I'm still none the wiser about what OP *needs* for his business machines, but if it is mostly regular Office stuff, O365 will work fine I imagine. I still have a Win7 virtual machine I spin up regularly to use my Quicken 2000 finance app (yes, haven't found anything yet as good for Mac despite looking!!). The VM sucks battery, so spin down after use!
Moved our house to Mac after years of Win pain: I agree Win7 was the last decent release: I am told Win10 is way better, but it was a day spent upgrading my daughters laptop (how many reboots??!) that led me to invest in replacing that final Windoze unit, and the house is a happier place!
For sure you can set yourself up a NAS, but I just use USB drives: got one each for the kids (kids? Now uni students!), make sure time machine is on and used (constant backups) & my days of IT support Chez Nous have reduced dramatically.
I remain convinced Apple are on a downward slide: I hate with a vengeance their desire to remove all ports in latest high end laptops - I use USB and hdmi many times each week, why make me carry dongles! - but they are still nicer machines to spend hours every day working with.
Apple kit does seem to last better too: I rarely see a windows user happy with their 2-3+ year old unit, whereas the same is not true for Apple.

Good luck!!

[So]

mikeiow said:

craigjm said:

So said:

As I handed over my card, I wept a tear of nostalgia as I remembered every Microsoft adware message urging me to upgrade for free from stware to stware.1

That doesn’t go away. My Mac is still nagging me to upgrade to high sierra

LOL: indeed, and I am resisting: nothing exciting beyond the El Cap release I'm on, although I know one day I will give in!
Interesting thread. I'm still none the wiser about what OP *needs* for his business machines, but if it is mostly regular Office stuff, O365 will work fine I imagine. I still have a Win7 virtual machine I spin up regularly to use my Quicken 2000 finance app (yes, haven't found anything yet as good for Mac despite looking!!). The VM sucks battery, so spin down after use!
Moved our house to Mac after years of Win pain: I agree Win7 was the last decent release: I am told Win10 is way better, but it was a day spent upgrading my daughters laptop (how many reboots??!) that led me to invest in replacing that final Windoze unit, and the house is a happier place!
For sure you can set yourself up a NAS, but I just use USB drives: got one each for the kids (kids? Now uni students!), make sure time machine is on and used (constant backups) & my days of IT support Chez Nous have reduced dramatically.
I remain convinced Apple are on a downward slide: I hate with a vengeance their desire to remove all ports in latest high end laptops - I use USB and hdmi many times each week, why make me carry dongles! - but they are still nicer machines to spend hours every day working with.
Apple kit does seem to last better too: I rarely see a windows user happy with their 2-3+ year old unit, whereas the same is not true for Apple.

Good luck!!

I have explained at least once what we need in the business, so RTFT

I agree with everything else you say.

I think a child test can be applied to this. When we bought a W10 machine specifically for the children to do their homework on, it lay dormant in a corner until I forced them to use it. As soon as the Macbook was spotted on the desk, little fingers were in there wanting to make things work, see how the features interacted etc. amid a general air of enthusiasm.

[AlexC1981]

So said:

My first try of Windows 8.

They were dark times I was not keen on W10 either until the Creators update came through.

ZesPak is right, don't spend any money on the HP netbook. It will always be crap. If you want to get it running reasonably well for home use you could install Puppy Linux. Puppy is so small that it runs entirely within the RAM and hardly takes up any of it, so the lack of RAM, no SSD and the very weedy processor should not be too great a handicap for Puppy. It could be an interesting project for the kids to do over Christmas if they enjoy fiddling with computers.

[gumshoe]

mikeiow said:

I am told Win10 is way better.....

Whoever said that lied!!! Windows 10 is absolutely the worst OS I've ever had to deal with. It literally changes your settings at whim and every new update changes all your chosen default apps. It's a nightmare.

mikeiow said:

I remain convinced Apple are on a downward slide: I hate with a vengeance their desire to remove all ports in latest high end laptops - I use USB and hdmi many times each week, why make me carry dongles! - but they are still nicer machines to spend hours every day working with.

Agree completely. I don't understand why they're hell bent on change for the sake of change. They're making things more and more inconvenient. Glad I'm not the only one thinking this.

mikeiow said:

Apple kit does seem to last better too: I rarely see a windows user happy with their 2-3+ year old unit, whereas the same is not true for Apple.

Good luck!!

Agree here too. I've got Mac hardware from years ago, including one 10 year old machine still running as good as new and OS has been upgraded to latest and a 6 year old laptop upgraded to SSD and 16GB RAM and is roaring. I can't bring myself to buy other hardware... even when I need to put Windows on a machine I end up buying a Mac

[dmsims]

Speaking of child tests have you found the # key yet?