Apple admit to 'Slowing Down iPhones'

[Cobnapint]

Le Vette said:

Now I know why my ipad mini is running like a dog. Shan't be buying apple again... bds.

Don't be like that - think of the batteries...!

[ZesPak]

bhstewie said:

Likewise I've got a MacBook Pro at home but use a similar spec Dell Latitude for work and the two cost around the same.

It's hard to talk about how a device "makes you feel" and to try and counter that with a rational element.

But can I just call for proof here? Can you give at least some spec or show us how you come to this conclusion, or what margin is there on "similar spec" and "around the same"?

I don't mind if something makes you feel better or in your opinion is better. But I'd like a fact chec on easy to check facts.

[TheGuru]

Le Vette said:

Now I know why my ipad mini is running like a dog. Shan't be buying apple again... bds.

Our original iPad minis never ran slow, but we updated as the apps started to not be available as you needed the later version

We’ve had the iPad mini with TouchID for the last two years and still lightning fast

But good luck with another brand, they are utter crap in my experience

[otolith]

ZesPak said:

Where are they outraged?
I'm more worried than anything. Apple have shown a capacity for printing money and, mainly for the worse, other manufacturers have been copying their business tactics in order to get a piece of the pie.
The worst part indeed is that many people won't care and they can probably just continue as they were.
The main issue is having this as a precedent, not being punished and eventually the norm. Many people have already accepted it anyway.

Unless you have a phone which doesn’t get the latest OS (like the Android POS my mum had) it’s inevitable that phones will slow down as they get updated OS versions designed to take advantage of higher spec hardware. People accept that. I think they would probably be more pissed off if an OS update killed their battery life than if it slowed their machine down. I don’t see a big problem, mostly just people seeking vindication for their religious phone affiliations.

[DukeDickson]

Time to change 'it just works' to 'it works if, how and when we decide'?


I'm sure there will be lots of defenders of the faith, but there's so much I can't get my head around in relation to this and those who subscribe & this is yet another example.


Still, the masses believe .

[TheGuru]

DukeDickson said:

Time to change 'it just works' to 'it works if, how and when we decide'?


I'm sure there will be lots of defenders of the faith, but there's so much I can't get my head around in relation to this and those who subscribe & this is yet another example.


Still, the masses believe .

But also strange how one of the most 'evil' and powerful companies, Google, is also worshipped so much - goes both ways.

I don't agree with Apple restricting the performance, but will continue to use the ecosystem because from my point of view it's more polished and usable than Android.

[tonyb1968]

TheGuru said:

DukeDickson said:

Time to change 'it just works' to 'it works if, how and when we decide'?


I'm sure there will be lots of defenders of the faith, but there's so much I can't get my head around in relation to this and those who subscribe & this is yet another example.


Still, the masses believe .

But also strange how one of the most 'evil' and powerful companies, Google, is also worshipped so much - goes both ways.

I don't agree with Apple restricting the performance, but will continue to use the ecosystem because from my point of view it's more polished and usable than Android.

Oh trust me, working in the telecoms industry, Apple are a force unto themselves, evil, nasty corporation, that's Apple, far too much power to dictate what's done imo.
As for the OS issues, every time they put a new OS out, that's phones bricked, phones not working correctly, phones having battery issues, its very very common and a bit of a joke. I know a lot of people who won't update their phone/device until patch xx.x comes out because they know its going to cause them issues otherwise, and how can Apple, a huge corporation, say that they are saving battery life on devices less than a year old, these batteries have a minimum 1000 charge life expectancy, so either they are putting in inferior batteries or its planned to ensure you upgrade to a new device every year.

[techguyone]

TheGuru said:

DukeDickson said:

Time to change 'it just works' to 'it works if, how and when we decide'?


I'm sure there will be lots of defenders of the faith, but there's so much I can't get my head around in relation to this and those who subscribe & this is yet another example.


Still, the masses believe .

But also strange how one of the most 'evil' and powerful companies, Google, is also worshipped so much - goes both ways.

I don't agree with Apple restricting the performance, but will continue to use the ecosystem because from my point of view it's more polished and usable than Android.

Heh of course it is. Once they copy all the features of Android - some years later then crow about how 'courageous' they are.

Notification centre...

Wireless charging [eventually they got there]

Fingerprint reader


Keep drinking that kool-aid

Oh and tell me again how you can change your default app
without jailbreaking or even just plug your iphone into your pc and access the files on it beyond photos and videos without having to use itunes or other specialist software.


Maybe I'm just 'holding it wrong'

[Cobnapint]

TheGuru said:

... my point of view it's more polished and usable than Android.

My word. Having the back button top left corner, right where your fingers are (not).

Android, for many, many other reasons than just that, is far more user friendly than iOS.

[TheGuru]

Cobnapint said:

My word. Having the back button top left corner, right where your fingers are (not).

Android, for many, many other reasons than just that, is far more user friendly than iOS.

Well you can always swipe across the screen to go back

As for user friendly, clearly that is not the case. For a start Android has different variations on it's UI based on manufacturer. e.g. TouchWiz on the Samsung's. Then there is a lot more uniformity in app design on iOS as Apple enforces this when applications are submitted to the store. Play store doesn't check this at all, although Google has introduced Material Design Guidelines they are not mandatory. Personally I also find aspects of the UI on iOS to be nicer. e.g. Tab Bars instead Drawer Menus.

Many Android apps have also appeared quite clunky - again not helped by different models and the variations in O/S, Screen resolutions etc.

[feef]

techguyone said:

Maybe I'm just 'holding it wrong'

Maybe it doesn’t fit your use case. It fits mine as those things aren’t an issue to me.

It’s a bit like EVs. They will work for many people but not all. It doesn’t make any of the options ‘bad’ devices, just unsuitable or a poor choice for specific use cases.

[NDA]

imperium said:

Can’t say I buy into the “protecting the battery” line.

I have old non updated devices such as 3GS,and 4s. Both are running just fine as I never updated the software. I kept my 6 always updated and it died slowly.

It does seem odd.

I have a 2013 MacBook Air on a Cycle Count of 980 - it's running as fast as it ever did.

[audi321]

NDA said:

imperium said:

Can’t say I buy into the “protecting the battery” line.

I have old non updated devices such as 3GS,and 4s. Both are running just fine as I never updated the software. I kept my 6 always updated and it died slowly.

It does seem odd.

I have a 2013 MacBook Air on a Cycle Count of 980 - it's running as fast as it ever did.

I don't think you can compare Mac OS products and Apple IOS products. Yes they're the same company but they might as well be 2 separate ones as they are totally different products.

[techguyone]

batterygate only affects iphones afaik

[NDA]

audi321 said:

I don't think you can compare Mac OS products and Apple IOS products. Yes they're the same company but they might as well be 2 separate ones as they are totally different products.

I wonder what the differences actually are? I realise the operating system is different, but they are both essentially computers. Why does one battery need special treatment and the other not?

[feef]

NDA said:

audi321 said:

I don't think you can compare Mac OS products and Apple IOS products. Yes they're the same company but they might as well be 2 separate ones as they are totally different products.

I wonder what the differences actually are? I realise the operating system is different, but they are both essentially computers. Why does one battery need special treatment and the other not?

Every laptop I've had has various power saving tweaks which involves reduced performance of some sort to prolong battery life, as well as a second set for when running on power. It's something we're used to on laptops, and it doesn't surprise me that similar happens on mobile devices. What I can see could have been done better is the transparency and control over those settings. Also, perhaps not with the MacBook Air, but with most laptops, battery size isn't as much of an issue as it is in a mobile device, still an issue granted, but mobile devices have a far more constrained package to work with.

[anonymous-user]

TheGuru said:

DukeDickson said:

Time to change 'it just works' to 'it works if, how and when we decide'?


I'm sure there will be lots of defenders of the faith, but there's so much I can't get my head around in relation to this and those who subscribe & this is yet another example.


Still, the masses believe .

But also strange how one of the most 'evil' and powerful companies, Google, is also worshipped so much - goes both ways.

I don't agree with Apple restricting the performance, but will continue to use the ecosystem because from my point of view it's more polished and usable than Android.

Who worships Google, and for what???? That's a new one to me. I don't think I've ever even heard anyone mention Google in any way other than the phrase "google it".

[techguyone]

NDA said:

audi321 said:

I don't think you can compare Mac OS products and Apple IOS products. Yes they're the same company but they might as well be 2 separate ones as they are totally different products.

I wonder what the differences actually are? I realise the operating system is different, but they are both essentially computers. Why does one battery need special treatment and the other not?

mac OS stuff will also run on mains, the iOS iPhone stuff has very small low capacity batteries (relative to other makes)

planned obsolescence...

[TheGuru]

JimSuperSix said:

Who worships Google, and for what???? That's a new one to me. I don't think I've ever even heard anyone mention Google in any way other than the phrase "google it".

Google develops Android which has it's fair share of worshippers and fanboys.

[DukeDickson]

TheGuru said:

DukeDickson said:

Time to change 'it just works' to 'it works if, how and when we decide'?


I'm sure there will be lots of defenders of the faith, but there's so much I can't get my head around in relation to this and those who subscribe & this is yet another example.


Still, the masses believe .

But also strange how one of the most 'evil' and powerful companies, Google, is also worshipped so much - goes both ways.

I don't agree with Apple restricting the performance, but will continue to use the ecosystem because from my point of view it's more polished and usable than Android.

They're probably (they being the three generally obvious protagonists) as bad as each other, but the thing that gets me about Apple is the our way or the highway, pay the highest cost for it, only have a very limited environment to get right, yet recently at least, make fk ups like everyone else. Then deny or crank the bullst producer up to 11 and some, because the 'it just works' mantra cannot be threatened. At least the others let anyone share in the oops, I....