Apple admit to 'Slowing Down iPhones'
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"Dictator" Not far off really, recent years I think. I like what apple does and so far it fits in my way of use (not used laptops, their bulldozing the USB c through put me off). The cloud, desk top, iPad and all that. I was oblivious to the phone issue at it had not affected mine so I wondered why everyone was upset but now it is coming out.
For me personally, keeping to the same theme, I look on the other offerings as tin pot countries. I have a Windows phone and it is the worst bit of crap I have ever had the displeasure to use, but it does have a battery that can be replaced. Slot for memory cards etc. A few mm larger tops.
The thing for me is where is the tipping point to go to windows. Not sure yet but not close.
For me personally, keeping to the same theme, I look on the other offerings as tin pot countries. I have a Windows phone and it is the worst bit of crap I have ever had the displeasure to use, but it does have a battery that can be replaced. Slot for memory cards etc. A few mm larger tops.
The thing for me is where is the tipping point to go to windows. Not sure yet but not close.
jmorgan said:
"Dictator" Not far off really, recent years I think. I like what apple does and so far it fits in my way of use (not used laptops, their bulldozing the USB c through put me off). The cloud, desk top, iPad and all that. I was oblivious to the phone issue at it had not affected mine so I wondered why everyone was upset but now it is coming out.
For me personally, keeping to the same theme, I look on the other offerings as tin pot countries. I have a Windows phone and it is the worst bit of crap I have ever had the displeasure to use, but it does have a battery that can be replaced. Slot for memory cards etc. A few mm larger tops.
The thing for me is where is the tipping point to go to windows. Not sure yet but not close.
I don't understand why your first alternative is Windows, rather than Android? Windows is the worst mobile platform by far.For me personally, keeping to the same theme, I look on the other offerings as tin pot countries. I have a Windows phone and it is the worst bit of crap I have ever had the displeasure to use, but it does have a battery that can be replaced. Slot for memory cards etc. A few mm larger tops.
The thing for me is where is the tipping point to go to windows. Not sure yet but not close.
You should be able to achieve whatever you want with Android, it's best feature (IMO) is the freedom to do pretty much whatever you want with it. Happy to try and point you in the right direction if you're looking for alternatives
otolith said:
??This would be a lot easier if you used words to explain the point you're trying to make.
Samsung = A sneaky, dreadful, underhand multinational.
Apple = A sneaky, dreadful, underhand multinational.
I don't believe either of them are shining examples of morality in business.
otolith said:
I think this thread has gone 'round this similarly.Just because some other company has it's issues doesn't exempt any other company or give them a free pass.
If you break someone's arm, you shouldn't get away with it because someone else once killed someone.
Yes, Apple is in the spotlight. That's what happens when you sell that amount of products and in some way shape or form are the market leader. Just look at what MS went through with Windows.
It was the same with "dieselgate", VAG aficionados were all spouting "stop talking bad at our precious brand, they can do anything they want because X is also evil and we love our VAG products so please leave VAG alone".
As a consumer, we're not doing anyone except for the big brand name any favours.
Tycho said:
amusingduck said:
I don't understand why your first alternative is Windows, rather than Android? Windows is the worst mobile platform by far.
I'd say that Windows was a good system let down by being very late to market and not having developer support.It's also what Apple does well: make a good device, make a good OS -> Good phone
Android as google intended it is a very good system imho. The way it's implemented by, amongst others, Samsung, is far from my liking.
Out of the box, current crop of Nokia's, Motorola's work very well because they keep Android bare. Pixel series is the google phone, but prices are up there with the iphone iirc.
ZesPak said:
The Nokia's I handled were all very buggy and generally very unreliable phones. Would put anybody off WP in general.
It's also what Apple does well: make a good device, make a good OS -> Good phone
My 920 is still going strong. One of the best devices I've ever owned. Right up there with the BlackBerry Bold 9900 It's also what Apple does well: make a good device, make a good OS -> Good phone
Windows tipped a while back, even MS know this, they don't even make new Windows phones.
They were first to the party, long before Apple & Android even thought about phones, but let themselves be overtaken by touch screens and most importantly APPS. Balmer bless him, royally f
ked up MS, even Nokia couldn't save it.
They were first to the party, long before Apple & Android even thought about phones, but let themselves be overtaken by touch screens and most importantly APPS. Balmer bless him, royally f
ked up MS, even Nokia couldn't save it.
Rawwr said:
My 920 is still going strong. One of the best devices I've ever owned. Right up there with the BlackBerry Bold 9900
We had about 20 800's in circulation and they had all sorts of gripes, much more than a batch of 20 phones should have had. I can imagine that the 820's would have been much, much better, but by then, everybody was put off by them.Most of the issues I think, were not WP related but really hardware. Random restarts, just being unable to send/receive calls, unresponsive touch screen with the only fix to reboot the phone (also handy when you've got an incoming call).
Rawwr said:
otolith said:
??This would be a lot easier if you used words to explain the point you're trying to make.
Samsung = A sneaky, dreadful, underhand multinational.
Apple = A sneaky, dreadful, underhand multinational.
I don't believe either of them are shining examples of morality in business.
otolith said:
The point being that those people who seem obsessed by how evil Apple is would never shut up about it if something similar happened there. The idea that this issue with iPhones is being forgiven or ignored just because it is Apple is laughable.
Do what I do with zealots; ignore them otolith said:
The point being that those people who seem obsessed by how evil Apple is would never shut up about it if something similar happened there. The idea that this issue with iPhones is being forgiven or ignored just because it is Apple is laughable.
I think there might be a valid point, but as I said: the highest trees catch most of the wind.That said, and I don't want to speak for everyone, but most people don't really care what a company/CEO does, as long as the product does what they want.
We all buy stuff just produced in sweatshop, most people don't care. There've been a couple of start ups here to make "clean" phones. They ask top dollar (because everyone needs to be paid fairly) for mid spec phones. People then vote with their wallets.
People get outraged if it affects them or if they feel cheated/lied to.
Hypothetically, even if a car brand has gotten big on Nazi money, and the founder of the brand was close friends with Hitler himself, people don't care as long as they deliver the goods as promised/advertised.
The fact that Jobs was a complete asshole (not my words) didn't really matter, the products were great, just ignore the keynotes.
Ballmer was a controversial figure and a lot of his public appearances were cringeworthy, but under his reign MS took the server market like no-one else.
Now imagine if Ballmer was the nicest guy imagineable, but it turned out that Windows server had some sneaky backdoors (probably for "reasons").
THAT would be an issue.
So, now, the CEO of Samsung has had a trial and 5 years in prison. Not to mention the fines.
VW has a fine that they'll feel for years to come.
Apple should be able to do what they did here unpunished?
ZesPak said:
People get outraged if it affects them or if they feel cheated/lied to.
It looks to me as if the most outraged people on this thread don't even own iPhones.ZesPak said:
Apple should be able to do what they did here unpunished?
That's a different question. If it's shown that they did this cynically in bad faith, of course they should. I was specifically addressing the claim by one of the offended that Apple will be treated better over this than anyone else would.ZesPak said:
grumbledoak said:
Does my iPhone 6 plus run slower than now? Of course. But then the current OS is far more beefy than the one when I bought it.
It could be, this is not a certainty and just speculation on your part.What IS certain, is that Apple slows down your device when the battery gets older. Found out by multiple sources then confirmed by Apple.
grumbledoak said:
The one good thing out of this- is that the whole fiasco may trigger Apple into - "Why don't we make the battery user replaceable?"
They will, but first they are going to allow SD cards like the competition so that you can buy a model with less memory and save a lot of money.It's on the roadmap:
- Pigs fly
- Hell freezes over
- Apple makes their devices more user serviceable
otolith said:
ZesPak said:
People get outraged if it affects them or if they feel cheated/lied to.
It looks to me as if the most outraged people on this thread don't even own iPhones.Unfortunately, Apple makes a lot of money and a lot of manufacturers try to copy their success, for better or for worse.
A move like this, if allowed, can bring every manufacturer to ideas I, for example, dislike.
Example: I didn't mind Motorola and some other chinese manufacturers ditching the headphone jack, I can avoid them. BUT once apple does it's a good possibility everybody will follow suit. Same goes with SD card storage, user replaceable battery,...
It's the same thing with countries, when there's some dictator in Africa, most of us don't mind what homophobic or sexist bulls
t he's spouting. But when, for example, the president of the USA does it, it's something to worry about. Even if you don't live in the USA.Gassing Station | Computers, Gadgets & Stuff | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff