Apple admit to 'Slowing Down iPhones'
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I can kind of see that argument if they've done something the market likes, though of course if anyone else does something the market likes we are told that Apple will copy it and pass it off as their own innovation, so you should probably be equally worried about popular features you don't like from anyone else.
If it's unpopular, it sounds far fetched to imagine that happening.
Mostly, this kind of thing seems to be an opportunity for an ego-w
k for anyone with far too much of their identity tied up in their choice of tech.
If it's unpopular, it sounds far fetched to imagine that happening.
Mostly, this kind of thing seems to be an opportunity for an ego-w
k for anyone with far too much of their identity tied up in their choice of tech.otolith said:
If it's unpopular, it sounds far fetched to imagine that happening.
Removable batteries are a thing of the past now. So is expandable memory. More and more laptops have their RAM modules soldered on.A lot of these things are things the average user doesn't care about.
otolith said:
Mostly, this kind of thing seems to be an opportunity for an ego-wk for anyone with far too much of their identity tied up in their choice of tech.
Sure thing, until you think about how much of our identity is actually tied up in companies like Apple and Google.k for anyone with far too much of their identity tied up in their choice of tech.As above, imagine how powerful these companies are and then think how they conduct their business.
8V085 said:
Can you imagine what would happen if car manufacturers introduced secret throttling when fuel filter gets clogged up in order to improve customer's experience by preventing stalling instead of telling them that their fuel filter needs changing? I'd be fking PR suicide.
Apple is powerful enough to buy a handful of car brands and just start their practices there.king PR suicide.Hey your Tesla, after 18 months, does 0-60 in 9 seconds instead of 3. Because the battery you know...
However, I've thought about it and Apple was pretty clever here. Starting off the hardware was rapidly developing and looking back the iPhone 3G I had was only just there. It was laggy in a lot of case, it needed upgraded hardware. These days we're all used to computers lasting 6 years, but we've gotten used to smartphones only feeling fast for about 2. Apple preempted on this and when the hardware was there they built in software catches, so we can continue on our path of buying new phones every 2 years and their flow of income keeps up.
Imagine if everybody doubles their term on hardware, they'd lose billions.
ZesPak said:
Example: I didn't mind Motorola and some other chinese manufacturers ditching the headphone jack, I can avoid them. BUT once apple does it's a good possibility everybody will follow suit. Same goes with SD card storage, user replaceable battery,...
2 of your 3 examples are features that have been part of iPhones since their inception but the competition still (mostly) provide. I broadly agree with your point about Apple making decisions that reduce my chance of still being a customer in years to come, but while Apple release the products it is the market that ultimately decide what is important to them.
What I would say is that I am very grateful that Apple has been so successful in selling well designed premium tech that they now have effective competition which simply didn't exist when I made the move to them.
I also think people are getting more life out of their phones because the costs have grown and, for general/light users the tech doesn't deliver anything special. My aunt is still using her 4, and will be upgrading to my 5S which I bought used and kept for 3 years.
Edited by gregs656 on Friday 19th January 14:47
gregs656 said:
What I would say is that I am very grateful that Apple has been so successful in selling well designed premium tech that they now have effective competition which simply didn't exist when I made the move to them.
Agreed, the competition has been great for consumer tech!gregs656 said:
I also think people are getting more life out of their phones because the costs have grown and, for general/light users the tech doesn't deliver anything special. My aunt is still using her 4, and will be upgrading to my 5S which I bought used and kept for 3 years.
My exact point. Two phones not affected by having an older battery so by definition slowing down dramatically. They are both workable, not constantly shutting down I imagine?Of course, for the best user experience, their CPU should be throttled to about 40% of it's original speed. These archaic devices don't offer such an advanced feature though.
Tycho said:
amusingduck said:
I don't understand why your first alternative is Windows, rather than Android? Windows is the worst mobile platform by far.
I'd say that Windows was a good system let down by being very late to market and not having developer support.I just wish the stupid piece of crap would die so I can replace it without feeling like I am wasting money, but frankly I'm almost on the verge of smashing it into a million pieces anway just to get shot of it. My wife and daughter both have Samsung something-or-others which are hugely better.
Rawwr said:
Have you noticed that people only ever talk about 'Windows Phone' being crap but fail to mention the actual device they're using? Weird, no? 
I found the cheap Nokia 635 was great for the price and never had any issues. I still say that Windows Phone was a good system but what MS did to Nokia was a disgrace. With a bit of thought and investment they could have used the expertise Nokia had to produce a really good system but they just left it to other manufacturers to produce handsets. If they's have followed their Surface philosophy then it may still have been around.ZesPak said:
My exact point. Two phones not affected by having an older battery so by definition slowing down dramatically. They are both workable, not constantly shutting down I imagine?
Of course, for the best user experience, their CPU should be throttled to about 40% of it's original speed. These archaic devices don't offer such an advanced feature though.
I think what Apple have done is basically wrong, but at the same time I think the reason people 'defend' them is because most of their customers have a positive experience. Of course, for the best user experience, their CPU should be throttled to about 40% of it's original speed. These archaic devices don't offer such an advanced feature though.
They seem to very quietly make changes to resolve issues even when they haven't admitted there is an issue and I expect they will do the same here so as not to bring them back into the spot light.
I had another go with an X yesterday and I have to say I like it a lot. Wouldn't bother with an 8. I reckon the resale values of the X are going drop quicker than previous iPhones as they are just so damn expensive, looking on eBay they have already dropped 20-25%.
Rawwr said:
Have you noticed that people only ever talk about 'Windows Phone' being crap but fail to mention the actual device they're using? Weird, no?
Um, its a Windows Phone - microsoft mobile RM-1127 according to the little sticker inside, all it says on the outside is Microsoft.gregs656 said:
I think what Apple have done is basically wrong, but at the same time I think the reason people 'defend' them is because most of their customers have a positive experience.
They seem to very quietly make changes to resolve issues even when they haven't admitted there is an issue and I expect they will do the same here so as not to bring them back into the spot light.
I had another go with an X yesterday and I have to say I like it a lot. Wouldn't bother with an 8. I reckon the resale values of the X are going drop quicker than previous iPhones as they are just so damn expensive, looking on eBay they have already dropped 20-25%.
And its fun to wind up all the android fanboys on iphone threads!They seem to very quietly make changes to resolve issues even when they haven't admitted there is an issue and I expect they will do the same here so as not to bring them back into the spot light.
I had another go with an X yesterday and I have to say I like it a lot. Wouldn't bother with an 8. I reckon the resale values of the X are going drop quicker than previous iPhones as they are just so damn expensive, looking on eBay they have already dropped 20-25%.
funkyrobot said:
Blown2CV said:
had battery replaced on iPhone 6 for £25 on friday. Took 1hr. Phone feels slightly faster but still not terribly responsive in places. Noticeable changes are it now gets very hot and also seems to have a shorter charge lifetime. Sigh.
You need to buy a new one.Whoops!
JimSuperSix said:
I've had a Windows phone for a couple of years and it's utter crap. Sometimes it will drain its battery overnight for no obvious reason, sometimes it will last a week. It will randomly unlock into camera mode or some other mode instead of the front page. Sometimes when waking it up I'll find it's in a random mode, presumably happily draining the battery. Pressing the unlock button and sometimes it will display a blank screen and not the swipe screen. The camera is dire. It's way too easy to press the wrong thing and have it start dialing **** knows what number while the UI switches to a different page and locks the phone, leaving you frantically trying to unlock it and find the phone page again to disconnect. Sometimes parts of the UI randomly stop working - last week it was text messages - when a new one arrived it would display the notification , but there was no sign of the message in the inbox. In typical Windows fashion I eventually rebooted it and a whole load of new messages appeared. Then it stopped being able to erase messages, tap and hold no longer brought up any options.
I just wish the stupid piece of crap would die so I can replace it without feeling like I am wasting money, but frankly I'm almost on the verge of smashing it into a million pieces anway just to get shot of it. My wife and daughter both have Samsung something-or-others which are hugely better.
There are quite a few things there that my iPhone does. Sometimes I'll go to unlock it and the screen just shows the background picture and no unlock screen. Right now it can't find half of the emails in my inbox for some reason, despite Mozilla Thunderbird on my Windows laptop and my old BlackBerry Q10 having no problem with it.I just wish the stupid piece of crap would die so I can replace it without feeling like I am wasting money, but frankly I'm almost on the verge of smashing it into a million pieces anway just to get shot of it. My wife and daughter both have Samsung something-or-others which are hugely better.
That said, I'm not that fussed. I don't mind rebooting it occasionally and emails aren't crucial to me. I won't be getting an iPhone next time, but that's not because of these faults. I just like to try something a bit different now and again.
Blown2CV said:
8V085 said:
Blown2CV said:
i don't know what this means
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