Apple admit to 'Slowing Down iPhones'
Discussion
ging84 said:
audi321 said:
The point is, why is Apple slowing my machine down without giving me a) warning they are doing it and b) the option to opt out?
It's not something they could give you an opt out of.The batteries after a while can't reliably produce enough power to run at full power, it's a software enforced hardware limitation.
Sheets Tabuer said:
They said the reason you couldn't change the battery was because they were so good you didn't need to. Now they are saying they slow you down because the battery is not so good. We're they lying now or then?
They were lying on both occasions.If you've got a phone that is supposed to be the bee's knees in handling lots of apps and processes, you'd fit a suitable battery that could handle the load. In the same way you'd fit a good engine to the car you were entering into a race (no offence Honda).
It seems to me they deliberately fitted a down spec battery so they'd have an excuse (if ever it were needed to be called upon) for the CPU brakes to automatically kick in 2 years down the line.
Clever stuff.
As an android user i can only shake my head at this.
I'd rarther have a phone that has poor battery life then one that gets slower. because then ill know that I just need to change the battery. if they slow down the phone a lay person will assume that it would be the components that are degrading, or the phones specs are no longer good for their new updates, they'd basically feel like the phones on it's last legs and needs to be gotten rid of.
I'd rarther have a phone that has poor battery life then one that gets slower. because then ill know that I just need to change the battery. if they slow down the phone a lay person will assume that it would be the components that are degrading, or the phones specs are no longer good for their new updates, they'd basically feel like the phones on it's last legs and needs to be gotten rid of.
ambuletz said:
As an android user i can only shake my head at this.
I'd rarther have a phone that has poor battery life then one that gets slower. because then ill know that I just need to change the battery. if they slow down the phone a lay person will assume that it would be the components that are degrading, or the phones specs are no longer good for their new updates, they'd basically feel like the phones on it's last legs and needs to be gotten rid of.
Correct.I'd rarther have a phone that has poor battery life then one that gets slower. because then ill know that I just need to change the battery. if they slow down the phone a lay person will assume that it would be the components that are degrading, or the phones specs are no longer good for their new updates, they'd basically feel like the phones on it's last legs and needs to be gotten rid of.
If it needs a new battery - it needs a new battery. End of. Don't conveniently slow it down in an attempt to sell more handsets.
well, I think I'll stick with my lg g4. now with an extended battery and 10 hours of screen on time.
they also can't be bothered to update it so I'm safe at full speed for all eternity. go, me.
bonkers that two years seems to be accepted as the replacement date for something that cost hundreds and soon to be thousands if they carry on like this.
they also can't be bothered to update it so I'm safe at full speed for all eternity. go, me.
bonkers that two years seems to be accepted as the replacement date for something that cost hundreds and soon to be thousands if they carry on like this.
audi321 said:
Now theres no bigger fanboy than me.......but this is disgusting. I've suspected this from virtually every iphone I've every had. Now they come up with some rubbish about protecting the battery.......b
ks!
If my battery dies, I'll get another one installed. It should be my decision. However, it is bks. They do it to make you buy the new phone.....period!
Back on planet rational, the reality is probably somewhere in the middle. Perhaps it’s a legitimate technical mitigation to protect the more modern SoC against poor power supply, with the implicit bonus that in many cases the user will just buy another device? ks!If my battery dies, I'll get another one installed. It should be my decision. However, it is b
ks. They do it to make you buy the new phone.....period!Either way they made a big mistake in not prominently documenting this new feature.
Kenny Powers said:
audi321 said:
Now theres no bigger fanboy than me.......but this is disgusting. I've suspected this from virtually every iphone I've every had. Now they come up with some rubbish about protecting the battery.......bks!
If my battery dies, I'll get another one installed. It should be my decision. However, it is bks. They do it to make you buy the new phone.....period!
Back on planet rational, the reality is probably somewhere in the middle. Perhaps it’s a legitimate technical mitigation to protect the more modern SoC against poor power supply, with the implicit bonus that in many cases the user will just buy another device? ks!If my battery dies, I'll get another one installed. It should be my decision. However, it is b
ks. They do it to make you buy the new phone.....period!Either way they made a big mistake in not prominently documenting this new feature.
Here is the story on my iPhone 6. Soon after I bought it on release day for 6S I suffered from random shut downs. My wife got the 6S and the interesting thing is hers was doing it at similar times. We take me phone out to take a photo and it’s dead. We take hers out and it’s also dead. Plug them in and they jump to 60% battery.
There was an IOS upgrade and the random shut down would happen in the 20% range.
On the run up to a new phone release the iOS is updated and performance is impacted. This time it made my battery go crazy. Using safari would use 1.5% battery per minute. Waking up the phone became a lottery of percentages.
Also, the performance of the phone was gash. It was sooooo slow it was silly. I’d normally just buy a new one but this time I didn’t want to throw out $1000 for it to be obsolete in 2-3 years.
I went into the battery settings and it had a message saying the battery needed replacing. So, for $29 I bought a high capacity battery (2200 instead of 1810 as standard).
As I said before, I’ve done the switch before but this was so easy it should be considered routine maintenance.
I only did the change yesterday but already my phone works like new. Typing was so delayed I’d be 3-4 words ahead and the predictive text would mess up. Today, it’s keeping up.
Also, I’m amused by the battery life. Yesterday, by now my phone would be dead. Today I have 99% battery left. That’s after lots of surfing and my daughter watching YouTube for an hour.
Conclusion, as I’ve always known Apple are destroying performance. What I don’t understand is the testing until today contradicted that. I know we are being told it’s a recent introduction but that’s BS. This is this is the same pattern since my 3GS. I can only assume the testers were doing the test on phones they bought for the test and so the battery didn’t impact the performance.
All this guff about battery dying at 60% is it really beyond the wit of apple to have a battery indicator that takes into account the battery state and adjusts itself .
Oh wait.
Then people would see the gauge dropping faster than a V8 fuel gauge on full chat and would wonder how on earth their 'premium' very expensive device had a shonky el crappo battery installed.
I hope they get the st sued out of them. fkers the lot of em
Oh wait.
Then people would see the gauge dropping faster than a V8 fuel gauge on full chat and would wonder how on earth their 'premium' very expensive device had a shonky el crappo battery installed.
I hope they get the s
t sued out of them. fkers the lot of emWhat amazes me is that people will still buy yet more Apple products no matter how much they screw people over, and then they'll still defend them as somehow superior.....
We've got an Ipod of some sort, and trying to get music onto it via ITunes is just idiotic. Then it has its own charging cable of course, it can't just use a normal USB cable oh no, so we have to carry that cable around so we can charge the stupid thing wherever my daughter takes it Then often it will just lock up solid and not allow you to play anything. **** Apple. I will never purchase another piece of their ste.
I've also got another mp3 player, one of the Audbile-compatible ones, not only did it cost about 1/3rd of the ipod but adding music is easy - audible manager does it for you, or you just drag and drop the file. And it doesn't lock up whenever the wind changes or someone farts.
We've got an Ipod of some sort, and trying to get music onto it via ITunes is just idiotic. Then it has its own charging cable of course, it can't just use a normal USB cable oh no, so we have to carry that cable around so we can charge the stupid thing wherever my daughter takes it Then often it will just lock up solid and not allow you to play anything. **** Apple. I will never purchase another piece of their s
te.I've also got another mp3 player, one of the Audbile-compatible ones, not only did it cost about 1/3rd of the ipod but adding music is easy - audible manager does it for you, or you just drag and drop the file. And it doesn't lock up whenever the wind changes or someone farts.
Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 24th December 17:06
JimSuperSix said:
What amazes me is that people will still buy yet more Apple products no matter how much they screw people over, and then they'll still defend them as somehow superior.....
To be honest I am not sure when I will jump, seem to have fallen on my feet with my iPhone. The new top of the range iMac Pro, you cannot upgrade the memory yourself, starts at £489 wait for it....£4899. As you do, maxed it out for fun an £12000
Someone else needs to take the helm at Apple and make stuff user friendly again.
JimSuperSix said:
What amazes me is that people will still buy yet more Apple products no matter how much they screw people over, and then they'll still defend them as somehow superior.....
We've got an Ipod of some sort, and trying to get music onto it via ITunes is just idiotic. Then it has its own charging cable of course, it can't just use a normal USB cable oh no, so we have to carry that cable around so we can charge the stupid thing wherever my daughter takes it Then often it will just lock up solid and not allow you to play anything. **** Apple. I will never purchase another piece of their ste.
I've also got another mp3 player, one of the Audbile-compatible ones, not only did it cost about 1/3rd of the ipod but adding music is easy - audible manager does it for you, or you just drag and drop the file. And it doesn't lock up whenever the wind changes or someone farts.
True but their laptops are good though ime.We've got an Ipod of some sort, and trying to get music onto it via ITunes is just idiotic. Then it has its own charging cable of course, it can't just use a normal USB cable oh no, so we have to carry that cable around so we can charge the stupid thing wherever my daughter takes it Then often it will just lock up solid and not allow you to play anything. **** Apple. I will never purchase another piece of their s
te.I've also got another mp3 player, one of the Audbile-compatible ones, not only did it cost about 1/3rd of the ipod but adding music is easy - audible manager does it for you, or you just drag and drop the file. And it doesn't lock up whenever the wind changes or someone farts.
Edited by JimSuperSix on Sunday 24th December 17:06
I buy a new macbook pro every few years and they just work
The Brand affinity to Apple products is approaching cult like status. I think strong brands like Apple do make people feel like part of a society and community. You see all these other people talking on their iPhones and using their Macs, and you feel the sense that ‘they are with me, as people become disconnected from actual real interactions, and more isolated they want to feel they belong to something, and Apple fulfill this gap.
jmorgan said:
Someone else needs to take the helm at Apple and make stuff user friendly again.
I don’t know if they were ever that user friendly, but under Tim Cook he has let quality slide and some really poor design decisions to be made.I guess they are still making truckloads of money so nothing drastic will happen to change that.
And also most of their products are still better designed and built than most of their competitors, whether it’s the iMac, MacBook or iPhone.
ambuletz said:
so to do android phones, and computers running windows.
Android phones, yes. Computers, specifically laptops running windows? Nah, I've had enough bad experiences with total rip off/low quality dell/ibm/hp (oh god not hp) machines to never touch them again with the bargiest of barge poles. How hard is it to make a decent touchpad that isn't the size of a postage stamp and has multi touch?Gassing Station | Computers, Gadgets & Stuff | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff