Apple admit to 'Slowing Down iPhones'
Discussion
page3 said:
Cobnapint said:
Was thinking yesterday, Apple have got away with this haven't they.
Giving their products longevity rather than planned obsolescence? I certainly hope so.Their initial strategy was to, unbeknownst to the users, artificially limit the phone's performance, obfuscating the real issue (aging batteries) and presenting it as the phone itself slowing down.
How does that fit with your 'longevity, not obsolescence' claim?
amusingduck said:
page3 said:
Cobnapint said:
Was thinking yesterday, Apple have got away with this haven't they.
Giving their products longevity rather than planned obsolescence? I certainly hope so.Their initial strategy was to, unbeknownst to the users, artificially limit the phone's performance, obfuscating the real issue (aging batteries) and presenting it as the phone itself slowing down.
How does that fit with your 'longevity, not obsolescence' claim?
Apple know it. Apple customers know it. Rivals know it. The US government knows it. The whole f
kin world knows it. And nothing seems to have happened.
Contrast that with how the US kicked off against VW for emissions cheating.
And BP for an accidental oil leak.
Like I said, Apple are going to get away with this.
kin world knows it. And nothing seems to have happened.Contrast that with how the US kicked off against VW for emissions cheating.
And BP for an accidental oil leak.
Like I said, Apple are going to get away with this.
Cobnapint said:
Apple know it. Apple customers know it. Rivals know it. The US government knows it. The whole fkin world knows it. And nothing seems to have happened.
Contrast that with how the US kicked off against VW for emissions cheating.
And BP for an accidental oil leak.
Like I said, Apple are going to get away with this.
kin world knows it. And nothing seems to have happened.Contrast that with how the US kicked off against VW for emissions cheating.
And BP for an accidental oil leak.
Like I said, Apple are going to get away with this.
VW were being
s too.frisbee said:
Loosing only 8% capacity after 3 years and likely over 1000 charging cycles is actually really good.
Mine is 2 years old and I'm now having to charge daily rather than every 2 days. But yet, according to the battery health indicator, my batter is operating at 91% capacity. I'm experiencing no other problems but even so, I'm not sure I believe the 91% figure after 2 years of usage.I've been following the throttling debacle with interest as iOS 11 totally ruined my iPhone6 that was working perfectly before. Apple also "fixed" the wallpaper bug/glitch I was running that disabled all the springboard animations too, but that's an annoyance for another day...
Anyway, iOS 11.3 appears to have switched off the throttling completely and it feels OK again - benchmarks show it's almost doubled in performance:
Battery health reports 89% capacity and supporting normal peak performance which isn't too bad considering the phone is 3 and a half years old.
I'm still definitely buying a cheap new battery however, be crazy not to.
Anyway, iOS 11.3 appears to have switched off the throttling completely and it feels OK again - benchmarks show it's almost doubled in performance:
Battery health reports 89% capacity and supporting normal peak performance which isn't too bad considering the phone is 3 and a half years old.
I'm still definitely buying a cheap new battery however, be crazy not to.
NDA said:
I think it's unrealistic to expect a battery to last so many years without any deterioration ....
I realise that the main issue here was Apple deliberately slowing down phones - but that aside, batteries won't last indefinitely.
I don't think anyone is disputing this. My point is that I find it difficult to believe my battery has only detoriated 9% in 2 years. I'm not sure I believe the battery health check provided on iOS 11.3.I realise that the main issue here was Apple deliberately slowing down phones - but that aside, batteries won't last indefinitely.
NDA said:
I think it's unrealistic to expect a battery to last so many years without any deterioration ....
I realise that the main issue here was Apple deliberately slowing down phones - but that aside, batteries won't last indefinitely.
Yes, exactly - no complaints about reduced battery life here.I realise that the main issue here was Apple deliberately slowing down phones - but that aside, batteries won't last indefinitely.
What I find interesting is that iOS 11.3 reports normal performance from my current battery - phone is running pretty much as expected.
However, prior to 11.3 the performance was heavily throttled - for what purpose? Clearly the battery is still capable of delivering peak performance. It seems to me that Apple really screwed up the "unexpected shutdown" issue by crudely leaving processor throttling switched on all the time by default. That's certainly my experience.
MYOB said:
I don't think anyone is disputing this. My point is that I find it difficult to believe my battery has only detoriated 9% in 2 years. I'm not sure I believe the battery health check provided on iOS 11.3.
Try an app (for PC or MacBook) called 'coconut battery' - https://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/I use this to check my battery's condition - both for my elderly MacBook (5 years old and 1,100 battery cycles) and iPhone.
NDA said:
Try an app (for PC or MacBook) called 'coconut battery' - https://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/
I use this to check my battery's condition - both for my elderly MacBook (5 years old and 1,100 battery cycles) and iPhone.
Great, thanks for this. This states my battery is at 95.6% capacity. So even if I take Apple's figure of 91%, that's pretty impressive.I use this to check my battery's condition - both for my elderly MacBook (5 years old and 1,100 battery cycles) and iPhone.
Looks like there's no point even buying a new replacement battery.
Interesting.
Beano household has a 6s and a 6s+ both 30 months old.
My Plus is down to 80%, has been slowing a bit as you might expect from an ageing piece of modern kit, but still fine. I think that's pretty OK given that I use it so much and am always recharging it.
Mrs Beano put hers in a Mophie Juice box from day 1 and constantly trickle charges it through this. Result - the 6s shows 97%!!! Result!
Beano household has a 6s and a 6s+ both 30 months old.
My Plus is down to 80%, has been slowing a bit as you might expect from an ageing piece of modern kit, but still fine. I think that's pretty OK given that I use it so much and am always recharging it.
Mrs Beano put hers in a Mophie Juice box from day 1 and constantly trickle charges it through this. Result - the 6s shows 97%!!! Result!
frisbee said:
Warmfuzzies said:
Mine is at 92% 3 years old, and isn’t working as fluidly as it did on iOS 10. Piss poor apple. Not a happy bunny,?
Loosing only 8% capacity after 3 years and likely over 1000 charging cycles is actually really good.MYOB said:
Great, thanks for this. This states my battery is at 95.6% capacity. So even if I take Apple's figure of 91%, that's pretty impressive.
Looks like there's no point even buying a new replacement battery.
I'd highly recommend you get Apple to fit a new battery regardless, for 25 quid it's a no brainer. You have until December to make a decision Looks like there's no point even buying a new replacement battery.
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