Apple admit to 'Slowing Down iPhones'

Apple admit to 'Slowing Down iPhones'

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Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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I just don't get the 'learning another system' thing. Unless you spend your days sitting by the window, drooling and depending on round-the-clock care, how much learning is there when you're prodding a generic black slab with your finger?

Some people make it sound like they've been used to driving around in a Micra and then been asked to pilot a space shuttle.

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Not the perfect customer but i won’t change. We only upgraded 2 of 4 iPads as they are no longer supported. The phones are 3.5 years old and work just fine. The iMac is 8 years old and needs changing. My watch is so small I can hardly see the detail but its handy to be alerted to calls and text. The kids batter everything so no point upgrading too often. I bought the iPad 2 12.9 as I thought the office features and multitasking work be useful but all use it for is email/internet and watching video because it’s no MacBook. Actually I don’t like using the MacBook. Too small and I like a mouse.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Rawwr said:
I just don't get the 'learning another system' thing. Unless you spend your days sitting by the window, drooling and depending on round-the-clock care, how much learning is there when you're prodding a generic black slab with your finger?

Some people make it sound like they've been used to driving around in a Micra and then been asked to pilot a space shuttle.
Work issue was a Windows phone. There are dire things out there. It was that bad I wanted my Blackberry back and that was crap.

BrabusMog

20,192 posts

187 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Burwood said:
Sounds like your 6 has a shagged battery hehe
I hope not, it's an insurance replacement after I left my old one on a flight laugh

amusingduck

9,398 posts

137 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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Rawwr said:
I just don't get the 'learning another system' thing. Unless you spend your days sitting by the window, drooling and depending on round-the-clock care, how much learning is there when you're prodding a generic black slab with your finger?

Some people make it sound like they've been used to driving around in a Micra and then been asked to pilot a space shuttle.
Right? It's literally child's play.



If you're used to the phone on the left, how could you possibly use the phone on the right?! biggrin

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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BrabusMog said:
Burwood said:
Sounds like your 6 has a shagged battery hehe
I hope not, it's an insurance replacement after I left my old one on a flight laugh
I left mine in a trolly at Gatwick. Well, I couldn’t find it after picking up someone. Raced home in a panic, left on the Mac ‘find my phone’ it’s at Gatwick. Raced out there calling it non stop. After 50 calls someone picked it up. It had been handed in. What a relief.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Friday 15th June 2018
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jmorgan said:
Work issue was a Windows phone. There are dire things out there. It was that bad I wanted my Blackberry back and that was crap.
I always thought Windows Phone (8/8.1/10) had the best UI.

Then again, I also liked BbOS.

As it happens, I have a Lumia 930, S9+ and iPhone 8+ on my desk right biggrin

page3

4,924 posts

252 months

Saturday 16th June 2018
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Cobnapint said:
Still no news about Apple getting their just desserts for this farce. Wonder why that is.
Because to be blunt it really isn't an issue, except for the usual wingers. Reducing the peak performance to increase battery longevity is a good thing and recognised as such my many. Still, giving it a bit of spin sells papers. The cheap battery replacement policy is quick and easy. With the introduction of iOS 12* which specifically targets performance on older devices the longevity is increased further still.

* The beta on my original Air is fantastic. So much better that iOS10 and 11 in every way, and it's only beta 1

page3

4,924 posts

252 months

Saturday 16th June 2018
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Rawwr said:
I just don't get the 'learning another system' thing. Unless you spend your days sitting by the window, drooling and depending on round-the-clock care, how much learning is there when you're prodding a generic black slab with your finger?

Some people make it sound like they've been used to driving around in a Micra and then been asked to pilot a space shuttle.
In isolation, yes no problem although to be fair I wouldn't want to have to explain to my elderly parents how to use a different OS or what's in it for them by making the swap.

As a family it'd be a nightmare. Pick an eco-system and stick to it - both iOS and Android would clearly do the job so it really comes down to personal preference or what you already have. Moving from iOS to Android we'd personally miss FaceTime, iMessage (and the fact you can use this and FaceTime without requiring a SIM), Find My Phone, Parental Controls (particularly in iOS 12) and the Apple concept of Family Accounts (for sharing, purchases, approvals etc). Android offers similar via third-party Apps, but having them integrated is far easier and there are some specific features that work well for us, but of course may be irrelevant for others.

Cobnapint

8,636 posts

152 months

Saturday 16th June 2018
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page3 said:
Cobnapint said:
Still no news about Apple getting their just desserts for this farce. Wonder why that is.
Because to be blunt it really isn't an issue, except for the usual wingers. Reducing the peak performance to increase battery longevity is a good thing and recognised as such my many. Still, giving it a bit of spin sells papers. The cheap battery replacement policy is quick and easy. With the introduction of iOS 12* which specifically targets performance on older devices the longevity is increased further still.

* The beta on my original Air is fantastic. So much better that iOS10 and 11 in every way, and it's only beta 1
It's a massive issue. They were caught doing it just before the release of new handsets.

It's like diesel gate, except Apple were conning the public and not the authorities, but because they are American the yank judicial system isn't going for the jugular like they would for an overseas outfit. See BP for details.

dmsims

6,547 posts

268 months

Saturday 16th June 2018
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Lots of reports of IOS 11.4 draining batteries, a new phone must be due soon

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Saturday 16th June 2018
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page3 said:
Cobnapint said:
Still no news about Apple getting their just desserts for this farce. Wonder why that is.
Because to be blunt it really isn't an issue, except for the usual wingers. Reducing the peak performance to increase battery longevity is a good thing and recognised as such my many. Still, giving it a bit of spin sells papers. The cheap battery replacement policy is quick and easy. With the introduction of iOS 12* which specifically targets performance on older devices the longevity is increased further still.

* The beta on my original Air is fantastic. So much better that iOS10 and 11 in every way, and it's only beta 1
Of course it isn't an issue. hehe

page3

4,924 posts

252 months

Saturday 16th June 2018
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funkyrobot said:
Of course it isn't an issue. hehe
Absolutely. It isn't. Our old devices just keep going - Apple Watch (series 0), iPhone 5S, iPhone 6, iPhone 6S, Air 1, Mini 4. They all just work.

page3

4,924 posts

252 months

Saturday 16th June 2018
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dmsims said:
Lots of reports of IOS 11.4 draining batteries, a new phone must be due soon
Not my experience, but try iOS 12 (beta). It's fantastic, which to honest is a bit of a surprise for beta 1.

ZesPak

24,438 posts

197 months

Saturday 16th June 2018
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Burwood said:
I can’t be bothered learning a new system. I would never buy Samsung. They’re worse. No fan boy but now have iMac, iPad, iphone, Apple Watch, MacBook.
This is probably a Troll, and I'm by no means a samsung fanboy as they are far from a morally superior company... but I've got 2 galaxy S2's here that are still in use, and while in no means "swift", I've had to sell my 4S for parts years ago.
Anecdotal, I know, but a blanket statement of "they're worse" smells like fanboy all over.

As for the people who still believe that Apple actually did this to maintain battery life at an older age, what colour is the grass on your side of the event horizon?

Cobnapint

8,636 posts

152 months

Saturday 16th June 2018
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page3 said:
funkyrobot said:
Of course it isn't an issue. hehe
Absolutely. It isn't. Our old devices just keep going - Apple Watch (series 0), iPhone 5S, iPhone 6, iPhone 6S, Air 1, Mini 4. They all just work.
Just very slowly, unless you get a new battery that they only offered after being caught out.

page3

4,924 posts

252 months

Saturday 16th June 2018
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Cobnapint said:
page3 said:
funkyrobot said:
Of course it isn't an issue. hehe
Absolutely. It isn't. Our old devices just keep going - Apple Watch (series 0), iPhone 5S, iPhone 6, iPhone 6S, Air 1, Mini 4. They all just work.
Just very slowly, unless you get a new battery that they only offered after being caught out.
That's just not true though. They all work great. All on their original battery, although in truth the 6S would benefit from a new one and we'll get round to that at some point. Not a priority though because it isn't particularly impacting usage.

page3

4,924 posts

252 months

Saturday 16th June 2018
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ZesPak said:
As for the people who still believe that Apple actually did this to maintain battery life at an older age, what colour is the grass on your side of the event horizon?
Your opinion. The reality is that older devices are still supported, still running well and are even getting love in iOS 12.

amusingduck

9,398 posts

137 months

Saturday 16th June 2018
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page3 said:
Cobnapint said:
Still no news about Apple getting their just desserts for this farce. Wonder why that is.
Because to be blunt it really isn't an issue, except for the usual wingers. Reducing the peak performance to increase battery longevity is a good thing and recognised as such my many. Still, giving it a bit of spin sells papers. The cheap battery replacement policy is quick and easy. With the introduction of iOS 12* which specifically targets performance on older devices the longevity is increased further still.

* The beta on my original Air is fantastic. So much better that iOS10 and 11 in every way, and it's only beta 1
laugh

The spin is Apple telling people that they secretly gimped their devices for their own good. Surprisingly, some people are actually willing to believe this.

They deceived their customers into believing that their device was too outdated to perform adequately, disguising that the real problem was a cheaply replaced knackered battery. This happened just after they launched new models of the iPhone, in yet another unbelievable stroke of luck for Apple.

98elise

26,689 posts

162 months

Saturday 16th June 2018
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ZesPak said:
As for the people who still believe that Apple actually did this to maintain battery life at an older age, what colour is the grass on your side of the evtent horizon?
Your opinion. The reality is that older devices are still supported, still running well and are even getting love in iOS 12.
My original IPad was trashed by IOS5. It became an unstable piece of crap, and no chance of going back to the previous OS.

Google did the same with our original Nexus, but at least you can reinstall the old OS.

Samsung have been the best. They don't roll out an OS that's incompatible with the phone. My S2 still works as a back up phone, and we often use it as an IP camera when we're away.

Edited by 98elise on Saturday 16th June 14:07